Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, sqweek. The second golden Golden Apple with καλλιστι on it is totally yours. The first one went to Russ Cox. You don't care who mounts what where, because the rest of the system doesn't notice the namespace

[9fans] window behaviour

2008-08-21 Thread prem
Hi 9fans, I dont think I am doing anything wrong here % window -f $font (this opens a window and closes it), however % window (this opens a window) /Prem

Re: [9fans] window behaviour

2008-08-21 Thread Robert Raschke
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:05 AM, prem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % window -f $font (this opens a window and closes it), however % window (this opens a window) As far as I know, window doesn't take a -f option. So it's probably trying to run the command '-f /lib/font/...' in the new window,

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread erik quanstrom
So essentially there shouldn't be a problem with mounting on a single public namespace namespaces are not public in the sense that they are visible to all processes. as long as there is one user on the system. since this started out as a discussion of terminals, i should point out that

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread erik quanstrom
A plan9 terminal can run programs, and can have a local storage file system, with multiple users. i think this is misleading. while the fs running on the terminal can have multiple users, it is not true that you can have multiple users using the cpu resources of a terminal concurrently. you

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:58 AM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: A plan9 terminal can run programs, and can have a local storage file system, with multiple users. i think this is misleading. while the fs running on the terminal can have multiple users, it is not true that you can

Re: [9fans] Acme without Flamage

2008-08-21 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Paul Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gorka Guardiola) writes: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:42 PM, David Leimbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing I'd miss in Acme vs emacs then, most likely, for lisp-like languages is

Re: [9fans] aquarela only uses /rc/bin/9fs?

2008-08-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
The trick you want is in /rc/bin/service/startcifs - this may not be exactly the code you want but it demonstrates the technique you need. -Steve startcifs didn't work quite like what I had in mind, so I ended up modifying /rc/bin/9fs. The excerpt below gives me exactly what I wanted: ...

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread Eris Discordia
Virtualization and jailing are hacks to work around the inherent Virtualization is much more than that. It has a future and the future's here. It also has a rather glorious past in IBM VM/CMS. restriction ('only root can become another user', hence su/sudo, only root can open certain ports,

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread Eris Discordia
A correction: Mea culpa. UNIX systems apparently force processes to share a single network stack, but that can be changed: http://www.tel.fer.hr/zec/papers/zec-03.pdf A paper on virtualizing network stacks in FreeBSD kernel, 2003 USENIX.

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A correction: Mea culpa. UNIX systems apparently force processes to share a single network stack, gee how about that? Isn't it nice to acquire knowledge and *then* post? but that can be changed:

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, a terminal should not hold _any_ information on its users. Where does the security of not keeping authentication information on a so-called terminal go when you _keep_ it on the terminal? But with multiple

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread Eris Discordia
namespaces are not public in the sense that they are visible to all processes. I was trying to compare UNIX to Plan 9. Apparently, UNIX processes share a single public namespace which therefore has to be protected by access privileges. since this started out as a discussion of terminals, i

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread Eris Discordia
Skipping general offenses... List manager: can we *please* just boot this guy until he comes back as a real person? It's getting old. Is it _that_ annoying to you? I could just keep silent if it is so, no booting required. Though I have to say I don't understand how a handful of emails to a

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it _that_ annoying to you? I could just keep silent if it is so, no booting required. goodness, it's not annoying. It's just a waste of breath, bandwidth, and bytes. Why not go do some reading and stop wasting all

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread Eris Discordia
goodness, it's not annoying. It's just a waste of breath, bandwidth, and bytes. Why not go do some reading and stop wasting all three? Breath I should rather save. Bandwidth I pay for. Bytes I push down the pipe. I admit it also costs 9fans.net a very very tiny amount. Anyway, you won't get

Re: [9fans] tip9ug

2008-08-21 Thread YAMANASHI Takeshi
Hi, I hadn't checked if the file server booted correctly after power maintenance. I rebooted everything and it's up and running now. Sorry for inconvenience. X-( -- On 8/18/08, Steve Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, mordor.tip9ug.jp seems to have disappeared, as has www.tip9ug.jp - is

Re: [9fans] tip9ug

2008-08-21 Thread Federico G. Benavento
thanks On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:00 PM, YAMANASHI Takeshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I hadn't checked if the file server booted correctly after power maintenance. I rebooted everything and it's up and running now. Sorry for inconvenience. X-( -- On 8/18/08, Steve Simon [EMAIL