Re: [9fans] Re: ctrans - Chinese language input for Plan9
> I stumbled onto an instructive video on youtube not that long ago. I'm > sure there are a few you'll be able to search for. If I understand > correctly, it's a combination of entering the phoneme by the nearest > Latin letter, then select from a diminishing range of suitable options > on the screen. There are other input methods based on the shape of the characters. Some are better with traditional Chinese characters, other with simplified characters, it's complicated... Let see if some Chinese comrade share with us his daily life experience. The Japanese is input writing kana directly with a Japanese keyboard or by romaji with roman characters on western keyboards (ka -> か, ) and then transformed to kanji when necessary. There are different IMEs, but the principle is the same. I suppose that ktrans is similar, I haven't tried jet. adr -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tba6835d445e07919-M428fc6fd31a9ffdb29d773bc Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Re: ctrans - Chinese language input for Plan9
> I know that the russian tech was very > isolated compared to modern technology. The most interesting for me are the Setun ternary computers designed by Nikolay Brusentsov in the late '50s running a Forth like system. They did a lot of research and came to the conclusion that Forth was _the_ language. They saw Forth as a discovery by Chuck Moore, not an invention (to give him more credit, no less). The binary computers that become popular (m-3, ural, etc) were slowly replaced by clones of western computers PDP-11, Intel, Vax, etc). The operating systems were mostly clones too. The computers of the '80s and '90s in schools and homes were clones of PC, Apple, Z80. The Spectrum clones were very popular. Asian computer technology was imported from the Western or Soviet worlds, so they had to add devices or methods to enter their own characters (look for some crazy keyboard built in Taiwan). The early input methods (form the '70s?) were pretty much like the ones we use today. As far as I know, there wasn't any Asian computer created without Western or Soviet influence. adr -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tba6835d445e07919-Mfe79a57631b9a0b4b7b839e8 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Re: ctrans - Chinese language input for Plan9
On 7/21/22, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote: > sirjofri writes: > >> I'm pretty sure that pure Chinese computers would look different. > > I've often wondered that. What input methods do Chinese speakers use? > What do Chinese keyboards look like? How do they find/select the > character they want? Are different sets of characters available on > different computers, or are input methods standardized? I wonder. > I stumbled onto an instructive video on youtube not that long ago. I'm sure there are a few you'll be able to search for. If I understand correctly, it's a combination of entering the phoneme by the nearest Latin letter, then select from a diminishing range of suitable options on the screen. The video was more focused specifically on how this need - which Chinese, Japanese and Koreans somewhat reacted differently to - caused the Chinese to make great strides in computing. Lucio. > -- > 9fans: 9fans > Permalink: > https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tba6835d445e07919-Mfd7cc77a83bcefbc998c371e > Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription > -- Lucio De Re 2 Piet Retief St Kestell (Eastern Free State) 9860 South Africa Ph.: +27 58 653 1433 Cell: +27 83 251 5824 -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tba6835d445e07919-M0df0a84a156b182c700ca96c Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Re: ctrans - Chinese language input for Plan9
21.07.2022 04:44:53 cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org: sirjofri writes: I'm pretty sure that pure Chinese computers would look different. I've often wondered that. What input methods do Chinese speakers use? What do Chinese keyboards look like? How do they find/select the character they want? Are different sets of characters available on different computers, or are input methods standardized? I wonder. I was more referring to computers built without any american influence at all, so no ansi, no ascii, no LTR, probably different keycodes... I can't give you an answer as I'm not from an asian culture (although I studied it a little) and it's hard to answer anyway since I'm heavily influenced by american computers. I'd really need a few years studying those cultures heavily to be able to describe a possible tendency. I can imagine though to look at early russian (and maybe even chinese, if there is) space technology. I know that the russian tech was very isolated compared to modern technology. sirjofri -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tba6835d445e07919-M817c5719a75708c69b3cfd05 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
