A new Bentley is up. This defines hopefully all of the bitwise
operators I will support:
| ^ ~ (as in C)
@ @ (roll left and roll right, also called circular shift)
I'm still working on the base language, getting type checking working
and allowing logical AND, OR, XOR,
On May 7, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Matt Erickson wrote:
On 2008-05-02, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] pondered onto
the tubes:
one does
if key = 'c' then
scanline
runcommand
else
generate(key)
As I understand it the load of supporting two libraries was too much work, also
the alef (and perhaps limbo) experience lead to libthread which provides much of
the same functionality - abet not quite as neatly.
the sources of the 2nd edition alef have been released and there was a
one line
I think the quote of the day was We already support one C-like language.
brucee
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why did alef die, or are some of you
still using it?
A victim of rationalisation and reality: maintaining separate
libraries for
s/one/two/ # don't forget c++
On May 4, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Bruce Ellis wrote:
I think the quote of the day was We already support one C-like
language.
brucee
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why did alef die, or are some of you
still using
Set for the next release: bit arrays.
I'd use plan 9 before i'd use bitfields -- pjw
funny, i've only know him as a bit array.
- erik
my original suggestion for ratpy wasn't taken seriously, so i'll propose it
again:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.plan9/msg/29eb245edcb78e91
I don't use Python for this very reason. This is probably why
Ruby exists. I will not use your language for the same reason.
By adopting
ratpie! tasty. i thought a pindent was what a pinhead gets when you
scone him with a frypan.
brucee
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Skip Tavakkolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my original suggestion for ratpy wasn't taken seriously, so i'll propose it
again:
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ratpie! tasty. i thought a pindent was what a pinhead gets when you
scone him with a frypan.
Can I have a piece without so much rat in it?
-eric
Its the Bishop of Liechester
Can I have a piece without so much rat in it?
I had stir fried rat in vietnam once - well you gotta try things,
tasted a bit like wild (strong chewy) chicken.
-Steve
Well KenC doesn't have any rat with it.
So you want spam spam spam bacon and KenC.
Or python and a bucket.
brucee
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ratpie! tasty. i thought a
The idea is simple: indentation as block style.
Religious matter. Do as you wish, but expect flames.
Another feature I hope to supply is bit arrays.
ok
Bentley also will have nested functions, a Pascal-like for statement
(with variable steps instead of 1/-1), and a loop statement for
On Fri, 02 May 2008 08:49:24 BST John Stalker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To ensure programmers will use good style, Bentley will lack goto. To
break out of nested loops, you can use the breakout statement.
This worries me. When I need to implement a finite state autonomon I
usually use
* Bakul Shah ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Clearly he has a lot of enthusiasm but I don't understand why
he is squandering it on implementing boring old language
ideas.
Old ideas have the benefit of already being there.
it could just be possible that you're using an editor that is not
aware of the particular indentation requirements of said language, no?
does it, at least, implement color coding?
you wascale wabble wowser! you're won of those pwython wuffians, awren't
you?
- erik
Hello. I started working on Bentley, a new programming language. This
was inspired by and is based on the pseudocode in Jon Bentley's
Programming Pearls - a column for the CACM that became a book. The
compiler generates Assembly in a temporary file, then calls up the
assembler to make the
(By 'indentation' of course I mean 'indentation to define structure')
-rob
Put it this way: It's unwise to make program structure depend on
invisible characters.
a white space is something hard to find, some time ago I helped a friend
who couldn't get a mkfile working, he got something like:
mk: mkfile:6: syntax error; expected one of :=
all due to a ' ' in what was
On May 1, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Rob Pike wrote:
Indentation by white space is a very bad idea in my experience.
Superficially attractive but ultimately very dangerous. I once spent a
couple of days tracking down a bug caused by a source-to-source code
tool that broke a major program because the
On May 1, 2008, at 9:12 PM, Federico G. Benavento wrote:
Put it this way: It's unwise to make program structure depend on
invisible characters.
a white space is something hard to find, some time ago I helped a
friend
who couldn't get a mkfile working, he got something like:
mk: mkfile:6:
On May 1, 2008, at 9:26 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
one does
if key = 'c' then
scanline
runcommand
else
generate(key)
assemble(key)
This is similar to Python, and prevents
you can do what you will, with your indentation-based language, but
that won't change the fact that indentation for lexical scope is a
horrible idea.
I first saw it in a language in 1978 called Offal, by Aron Insinga.
Aron was smart: after 6 weeks, he said, this sucks, and put it away.
When I saw
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:41 PM, John Barham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I first saw it in a language in 1978 called Offal, by Aron Insinga.
Well with a name like Offal at least he wasn't setting expectations too
high...
Just about as high as Python went, it turns out :-)
ron
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:54 PM, ron minnich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:41 PM, John Barham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I first saw it in a language in 1978 called Offal, by Aron Insinga.
Well with a name like Offal at least he wasn't setting expectations too
Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
The compiler generates Assembly in a temporary file,
then calls up the assembler to make the program.
That sounds somewhat similar to Dan Bernstein's qhasm
(http://cr.yp.to/qhasm.html) which is a semi-portable assembly
language combining C-like syntax w/ direct access
Indentation by white space is a very bad idea in my experience.
it could just be possible that you're using an editor that is not
aware of the particular indentation requirements of said language, no?
does it, at least, implement color coding?
:D
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