Re: [9fans] git9: self-hosting.

2020-11-29 Thread ori
Quoth o...@eigenstate.org:
> https://shithub.us/ori/shithub

Oops, wrong URL. The real one is rather uglier:

http://shithub.us/git/ori/shithub/HEAD/info.html

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Re: [9fans] git9: self-hosting.

2020-11-28 Thread ori
Quoth o...@eigenstate.org:
> I'll keep mirroring to github, because people keep promising
> that it'll get me contributors -- and because it doesn't
> hurt to keep testing against it. Also, because breaking
> links annoys people.

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I ended up owning
shithub.us because of silly conversations, so
I'm handing out free accounts for plan9 hosted
git.

If you'd like an account, drop me an email
and I'll set you up with an account, and
give some basic info on how to use it.

You'll need a git implementation that can
push over hjgit (dp9ik + tls) in order to
use it.

The hosting is basically the same setup I
described earlier, with  one notable exception.
I'd like the site to get a bit more featureful
than what I want to ship with git9, so the
scripts are forked here:

https://shithub.us/ori/shithub

Things are pretty rough -- the web UI is just
3 days old and rather rudimentary, so patches
definitely welcome.

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Re: [9fans] git9: self-hosting.

2020-11-27 Thread Lucio De Re
On 11/27/20, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> one way it will help the bonzai tree grow is in that 9front can soon
> escape the old python, that constantly weighs on us just bec. we want
> to run hg sometimes.
>
I could not agree more.

What I believe is that Git has neither rhyme nor reason, it is a
smorgasbord of functions produced as the need was revealed. I admire
Ori's efforts to give Git some kind of discipline.

Not having to contend with HG and Python is a massive blessing. One
that Linux users will forever oblivious of, as they just sheepishly
follow their leaders and question not.

Lucio.

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Re: [9fans] git9: self-hosting.

2020-11-27 Thread hiro
one way it will help the bonzai tree grow is in that 9front can soon
escape the old python, that constantly weighs on us just bec. we want
to run hg sometimes.

python keeps on reinventing itself (python3 now has the crappiest
unicode implementation imaginable), and hg keeps on reinventing itself
alongside. so in the long run, unless we are fine to run a very very
outdated version of python and hg, we really need a way out of these
dependencies. git9 now seems to be the best way out that would be
compatible and can keep the commit history alive.

thanks ori.

On 11/27/20, Lucio De Re  wrote:
> It's not clear what your preference is, Ori. Maybe you can clarify how
> you would like contributors to participate in the self-hosted project.
>
> I personally really appreciate, in particular the convergence of Plan
> 9 streams that your efforts are encouraging.
>
> I just don't yet see how this should be harnessed, but I do wish the
> discussion could at least start, lay down some useful objectives that
> can be accepted by all interested parties. In some kind of unity lies
> Plan 9's strength.
>
> In a sense, Plan 9 is immunisation against the fragmenting forces of
> the market place, but I think it needs more than a shot, it needs
> continuous application. R.A. Heinlein (if I remember right) likened it
> to growing a bonsai tree over multiple human generations.
>
> Let me leave it at that, but add that I personally think that revision
> control can be done far more productively than Git, but the effort
> needed would be significant. In Ori's own git9 are but the seeds for
> that. And Github has shown what Git can facilitate, imagine what the
> next generation could mean for development.
>
> Lucio.
>
> PS: in case it got swamped, Ori, all I really started with was to say
> "thank you". I tend to slip into self-indulgence...
>
> On 11/26/20, o...@eigenstate.org  wrote:
>> I'll keep mirroring to github, because people keep promising
>> that it'll get me contributors -- and because it doesn't
>> hurt to keep testing against it. Also, because breaking
>> links annoys people.
>>
>> But github is no longer the upstream: Git9 is running on
>> git/serve, hosted on plan 9 -- it's been towed within the
>> environment.
>>
>> The new upstream is now:
>>
>> gits://orib.dev/git9
>>
>> And there's a web listing of repositories here:
>>
>> https://orib.dev/git/repos.html
>>
>> I wrote up how it works here:
>>
>> https://orib.dev/githosting.html
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for all the testing, patches,
>> and reports.
> 
> 
> --
> Lucio De Re
> 2 Piet Retief St
> Kestell (Eastern Free State)
> 9860 South Africa
> 
> Ph.: +27 71 471 3694
> Cell: +27 83 251 5824

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Re: [9fans] git9: self-hosting.

2020-11-26 Thread Lucio De Re
It's not clear what your preference is, Ori. Maybe you can clarify how
you would like contributors to participate in the self-hosted project.

I personally really appreciate, in particular the convergence of Plan
9 streams that your efforts are encouraging.

I just don't yet see how this should be harnessed, but I do wish the
discussion could at least start, lay down some useful objectives that
can be accepted by all interested parties. In some kind of unity lies
Plan 9's strength.

In a sense, Plan 9 is immunisation against the fragmenting forces of
the market place, but I think it needs more than a shot, it needs
continuous application. R.A. Heinlein (if I remember right) likened it
to growing a bonsai tree over multiple human generations.

Let me leave it at that, but add that I personally think that revision
control can be done far more productively than Git, but the effort
needed would be significant. In Ori's own git9 are but the seeds for
that. And Github has shown what Git can facilitate, imagine what the
next generation could mean for development.

Lucio.

PS: in case it got swamped, Ori, all I really started with was to say
"thank you". I tend to slip into self-indulgence...

On 11/26/20, o...@eigenstate.org  wrote:
> I'll keep mirroring to github, because people keep promising
> that it'll get me contributors -- and because it doesn't
> hurt to keep testing against it. Also, because breaking
> links annoys people.
> 
> But github is no longer the upstream: Git9 is running on
> git/serve, hosted on plan 9 -- it's been towed within the
> environment.
> 
> The new upstream is now:
> 
> gits://orib.dev/git9
> 
> And there's a web listing of repositories here:
> 
> https://orib.dev/git/repos.html
> 
> I wrote up how it works here:
> 
> https://orib.dev/githosting.html
> 
> Thanks to everyone for all the testing, patches,
> and reports.


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[9fans] git9: self-hosting.

2020-11-26 Thread ori
I'll keep mirroring to github, because people keep promising
that it'll get me contributors -- and because it doesn't
hurt to keep testing against it. Also, because breaking
links annoys people.

But github is no longer the upstream: Git9 is running on
git/serve, hosted on plan 9 -- it's been towed within the
environment.

The new upstream is now:

gits://orib.dev/git9

And there's a web listing of repositories here:

https://orib.dev/git/repos.html

I wrote up how it works here:

https://orib.dev/githosting.html

Thanks to everyone for all the testing, patches,
and reports.

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