[9fans] dvd writing

2005-12-06 Thread geoff
Has anybody managed to write a DVD+R or +RW using Plan 9? And if so, how? Neither scuzz nor cdfs seems to be able to write +RW discs on my machine. I had some luck writing a +R disc with my modified scuzz, but there were complications.

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:01 PM, Rob Pike wrote: Fix the text. Okay, Mr. Grumpy :-) The nice thing about standards is there are so many to choose from. So which of the 15 style manuals sitting on my shelf should I follow for the rewrite :-) My philosophy is that man pages describe code. I

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:01 PM, Rob Pike wrote: To avoid the confusion that can be introduced by capitalizing a magic word, where possible I rewrote the sentence to avoid the problem. With the nice side effect of making the pages more readable in general. Maintaining a balance between

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Charles Forsyth
My philosophy is that man pages describe code. I don't capitalize Code??! well, there's a thought for us all.

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:01 PM, Rob Pike wrote: If you see many instances that sow such confusion, either I missed them the first time or, more likely, they've been edited since by someone less focused. Or perhaps the underlying conflict is that between the grammars of C and English. C's

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Charles Forsyth
But most importantly, they try to ensure consistency throughout the documentation set. so does Plan 9; it just doesn't use your rules.

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Dec 6, 2005, at 4:32 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: But most importantly, they try to ensure consistency throughout the documentation set. so does Plan 9; it just doesn't use your rules. I'm curious about this comment. man(6) describes the macros it makes available, but it says nothing

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Charles Forsyth
so does Plan 9; it just doesn't use your rules. I'm curious about this comment. man(6) describes the macros it makes available, but it says nothing about how they should be used in the context of writing the man page itself. There is no mention whatsoever of style or usage. (USG

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread John Stalker
the typeset pages.) But the unwritten style guide for BSD man pages says function names (and almost everything else) are case preserved. --lyndon Are you sure? I just looked at Rob's example, qsort(3), on my FreeBSD system. It mostly follows his usage, but there was Mergesort() is

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread jmk
Seems to me you could satisfy both your desire for consistency and that of being a frustrated writer by writing the man page that details how to write a man page in the accepted Plan 9 style. --jim On Tue Dec 6 08:03:30 EST 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 6, 2005, at 4:32 AM, Charles

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Charles Forsyth
the typeset pages.) But the unwritten style guide for BSD man pages says function names (and almost everything else) are case preserved. --lyndon Are you sure? I just looked at Rob's example, qsort(3), on my FreeBSD system. It mostly follows his usage, but there was Mergesort()

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Rob Pike
My memory is clearly faulty, but the point remains that if the writing is inadequate, rewrite. -rob On 12/6/05, Charles Forsyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the typeset pages.) But the unwritten style guide for BSD man pages says function names (and almost everything else) are case preserved.

Re: [9fans] Acme tabs to spaces

2005-12-06 Thread Russ Cox
So my new employer has a coding convention that tabs don't appear in source, and that indent levels are 4 spaces. Ick. But in the interest of global harmony, I'm willing to adapt. I know I can trivially convert the tabs to spaces at any given time, and set $tabstops to 4 to get the right

Re: [9fans] Acme tabs to spaces

2005-12-06 Thread plan9
On 12/6/05, Paul Lalonde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some automatic tab conversion code somewhere in Acme? Where would be the sane place to put such a thing? (yes, I already know there is no sane place for such a thing...) Okay, I'll ask the obvious-- why not an en- and de-tabbing

Re: [9fans] Acme tabs to spaces

2005-12-06 Thread David Leimbach
On 12/6/05, Rob Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no code, but using -a helps a lot. We have a two-space indent rule here and I hate it but I've adapted. -rob Writing lots of C++ are we? :-) Just a guess.

[9fans] multiple mice?

2005-12-06 Thread Kenneth Long
how many mouse devices can plan9 support on one PC at the same time? looking at limitations other OSs have like http://link.mywwwserver.com/~jstookey/arcade/rawmouse/ curious... __ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just

Re: [9fans] fossil woe

2005-12-06 Thread Russ Cox
cache.c:698: * BUG: if the disk is full, should we flush some of it to Venti? Should we? It's still not clear to me. There are fossil console commands you could have typed to free up a little space and run an archive to venti. To find your old vac scores, see /sys/src/cmd/venti/dumpvacroots.

[9fans] alarm() and threads..

2005-12-06 Thread ISHWAR RATTAN
What is the behavior of using alarm() in one of the threads in a multi-threaded program? Which will thread will get the note? Or it is undefined -- alarm() can be used at process level. Also, where can I find sample code to handle terminal abort/interrupt? -ishwar

Re: [9fans] fossil woe

2005-12-06 Thread Russ Cox
of course. or don't call it a cache but something that may fill up and screw you over. the machine was far too hosed to connect to fscons and in any case telling a user if you do too much stuff you will have to call me to fix fossil is not aacceptable. I'm not claiming, under any

Re: [9fans] fossil woe

2005-12-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
so it should be made clear that fossil is not appropriate for large files or file system traffic. if i wish to create a 5G file and fossil is 10G can i? well it depends on what has happened since the last snap. brucee On 12/7/05, Russ Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of course. or don't call it

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Steve Simon
I could distribute Henry Spencer's paper on how to write a manual page, touched up for Plan 9, if people really feel the need for guidance. My poor manual pages are notorious, I'm sure I ought to read it. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Capitalization in man pages.

2005-12-06 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Dec 6, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: i'm anyway currently stuck in a grim world of public abstract SocketChannel extends java.nio.channels.spi.AbstractSelectableChannel implements ByteChannel, GatheringByteChannel, ScatteringByteChannel where clearly no names are used