It does seem odd to use the GNU extensions there,
especially as L4Ka people can't be too cozy with FSF
people, the whole L4Ka::Pistachio is released under
the BSD license.
Quinn
--- David Leimbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/15/06, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
l4 depends on all
anyone who is serious trying anything starting with g with
kenc (apart from grep) is barking up the wrong
mountain ave.
brucee
On 1/18/06, Eirik Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does seem odd to use the GNU extensions there,
especially as L4Ka people can't be too cozy with FSF
people, the
i think 9fans should write plan9 native programs not trying other waste
to import.
alexandr.
Bruce Ellis píše v Čt 19. 01. 2006 v 00:45 +1100:
anyone who is serious trying anything starting with g with
kenc (apart from grep) is barking up the wrong
mountain ave.
brucee
ahhh - just woken so here is a mildly related rant while the
coffee revs up.
standards? when i was staying with skip at Club Vashon
we had a power outage (some bloody tree falling) and when
the candles and flashlights started to fail i trundled upstairs
and grabbed by video camera which has
read the art of networking style for a great rant on standards.
Note that film standards are ISO/DIN numbers -- not one number, two.
That's how they resolved how to pick the #.
48 byte cells came from standards.
ron
Andy Tannenbaum, wasn't it?
No. It was Andy Tanenbaum. Not Andy Tannenbaum. That's a different fellow.
From his book, Computer Networks.
Standards are for when there are too many cooks in the kitchen. By
their very nature they have to compromise.
Give me the work of a standards committee before the the work of a
single idiot; but most of all give me the work of a brilliant expert
before that of the committee. And for God's
alexandr babic wrote:
i think 9fans should write plan9 native programs not trying other waste
to import.
right, but I was not trying to do that.
I'm trying to see
- if I can get L4KA to build (fails)
- get L4KA to boot linux (predicated on previous step)
- run Plan 9 as an L4KA guest
well put sir, and i have a small kitchen.
brucee
On 1/19/06, Paul Lalonde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Standards are for when there are too many cooks in the kitchen. By
their very nature they have to compromise.
Give me the work of a standards committee before the the work of a
single idiot;
beck wrote a song gcc makes me wanta do crack - well
at least that what it is after i edited it.
brucee
On 1/19/06, Ronald G Minnich rminnich@lanl.gov wrote:
alexandr babic wrote:
i think 9fans should write plan9 native programs not trying other waste
to import.
right, but I was not
I am sending this from inside acme Mail on Linux.
Or at least the program is called Mail.
It's not actually the Mail from Plan 9.
I am running mh and have 'customized' it to print
something close to sensible output. Mail itself
is a shell script. The interactive delay is a little
annoying
Paul Lalonde wrote:
Standards are for when there are too many cooks in the kitchen. By
their very nature they have to compromise.
Give me the work of a standards committee before the the work of a
single idiot; but most of all give me the work of a brilliant expert
before that of the
how about someone (or two) experts write the standard?
worked for KR.
brucee
On 1/19/06, Wes Kussmaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Lalonde wrote:
Standards are for when there are too many cooks in the kitchen. By
their very nature they have to compromise.
Give me the work of a standards
programer's life could be easier and happier if he stays within plan9.
i think that i became reducionist thanx to plan9 :-)
* no horrible graphic desktops (kde, gnome, windows) only pure and nice
rio.
* no giant graphic libraries (gtk, qt, motif) only libdraw
AND LIFE IS SO EASY :-)
alexandr
On 1/18/06, Ronald G Minnich rminnich@lanl.gov wrote:
alexandr babic wrote: i think 9fans should write plan9 native programs not trying other waste to import.right, but I was not trying to do that.I'm trying to see- if I can get L4KA to build (fails)
Never had a problem here... I even cross
How about all standards committees advising one individual, the
standards czar, your brilliant expert, with a background in law and
social science as well as technology, who is able to apply duly
constituted public authority to a standard. He/she cannot have any
alliances with anyone
well said. is this better than a town hall meeting?
yes.
rev brucee
On 1/19/06, alexandr babic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
programer's life could be easier and happier if he stays within plan9.
i think that i became reducionist thanx to plan9 :-)
* no horrible graphic desktops (kde, gnome,
david, that's a useful web page but the issues come in with afterburner,
but I'll keep trying.
in spare time.
ron
On 1/18/06, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how about someone (or two) experts write the standard?worked for KR.What's worse is standards with no reference implementation. Both C an C99 seem to have suffered from this disease.
C++ hasn't been implemented as 1998's spec has erm... specified to
I think - just do it. The ozinferno standard is defined by the
implementation - plus whatever documentation that i get time
to write. This does not solve larger issues (like standards
for cell phones) but it works for me. I didn't go to a meeting
to add function pointers, i just did it.
brucee
Nothing is as soul-draining as standards arguments.
in the mid 80s i was on just one committee for a short time and when i left
my dept i put the resulting many big boxes of papers in the dept library
as a Warning to later generations. it was originally only intended to
add four or five simple
Russ,
This is great! I am very eager to try this out.
However I didn't get the Mail script you attached. It just
came through as an empty file. Would you mind sending that
again?
tim
I am sending this from inside acme Mail on Linux.
Or at least the program is called Mail.
It's not actually
how about someone (or two) experts write the standard?
worked for KR.
brucee
That worked. The UMTS standard, in contrast, was done by 4000 people
and, trust me, it shows. I ran a received configuration message (30 bytes or
so) through the ASN-1 decoder and ended up with a 5 megabyte C
Paul Lalonde wrote:
How about all standards committees advising one individual, the
standards czar, your brilliant expert, with a background in law and
social science as well as technology, who is able to apply duly
constituted public authority to a standard. He/she cannot have any
alliances
oops, sorry for the noise, didn't mean to send this to the list.
Russ,
This is great! I am very eager to try this out.
However I didn't get the Mail script you attached. It just
came through as an empty file. Would you mind sending that
again?
tim
I am sending this from inside acme
Mail script should be attached. This time for sure.
Russ
#!/usr/local/plan9/bin/rc
. 9.rc
. $PLAN9/lib/acme.rc
mh=/usr/bin/mh # directory with mh binaries
fn event {
# $1 - c1 origin of event
# $2 - c2 type of action
# $3 - q0 beginning of selection
# $4 - q1
That's nothing compared to the Brokian Ultra-Cricket rule book, that,
according to the Guide (h2g2), was so massive that it underwent a
gravitational collapse under its own weight, causing a massive
blackhole.
How about all standards committees advising one individual, the
standards czar, your
why not, it's wednesday after all and we're pretty far off topic:
...None of these facts, however strange or inexplicable, is as
strange or inexplicable as the rules of the game of Brockian
Ultra-Cricket, as played in the higher dimensions. A full set of
rules is so massively
On 1/18/06, Skip Tavakkolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's nothing compared to the Brokian Ultra-Cricket rule book, that,
according to the Guide (h2g2), was so massive that it underwent a
gravitational collapse under its own weight, causing a massive
blackhole.
In the process of listening
what cricket is on the tv today? when do i have to get to pub?
why is life so complex? ken once commented that a simple
RCA connector was not standardized but everyone agreed
to make them the same. there are zillions in the world.
maybe it was standandized post factum.
brucee
On 1/19/06,
Ronald G Minnich wrote:
read the art of networking style for a great rant on standards.
Note that film standards are ISO/DIN numbers -- not one number, two.
That's how they resolved how to pick the #.
48 byte cells came from standards.
Ah, but think of the elegance that comes from adding
or making irrational assumptions about what the compiler does
without ever reading KR.
brucee
On 1/19/06, Adrian Tritschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ronald G Minnich wrote:
read the art of networking style for a great rant on standards.
Note that film standards are ISO/DIN numbers -- not
32 matches
Mail list logo
