Re: [9fans] Acme fonts

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Re: [9fans] Acme fonts

2020-07-23 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, at 6:27 AM, Lucio De Re wrote: > > It does mean that acme needs some way to extend its grasp of > delimiters into the extended fonts. How about just masking off the top few bits when checking for delimiters? Not really a clean solution, but certainly simple. It would mean

Re: [9fans] Acme fonts

2020-07-22 Thread Lucio De Re
On 7/22/20, Russ Cox wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 7:22 PM Anthony Martin wrote: > >> Russ, what did you do to that poor little Acme?! ☺ >> >> Did you take the less daunting route using >> >> - a combined font file with shapes for normal, italic, bold, etc. and >> - a filter to offset runes

Re: [9fans] Acme fonts

2020-07-22 Thread Rob Pike
I see, yes. Well, that's not too terrible. -rob On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:40 PM wrote: > > I don't understand that. Acme knows the characters' location or it > couldn't > > draw them. Are you sure it's not just the frame library's lousy handling > of > > italic fonts? > > Unless I'm

Re: [9fans] Acme fonts

2020-07-22 Thread ori
> I don't understand that. Acme knows the characters' location or it couldn't > draw them. Are you sure it's not just the frame library's lousy handling of > italic fonts? Unless I'm misunderstanding how this works, ',' (0x2c) gets mangled to something like 0x10002c. So, acme knows the location,

Re: [9fans] Acme fonts

2020-07-22 Thread Rob Pike
> > *You can tell because when I double-click on the modified text acme > doesn't know where the word boundaries are and ends up highlighting across > punctuation that it normally wouldn't.* I don't understand that. Acme knows the characters' location or it couldn't draw them. Are you sure it's

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Wilson
Okay that explains a lot. I've had trouble with acme on Mac 10.7 and 10.8 On Dec 11, 2013 1:17 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: I am running plan9port on my Mac, not Plan-9 or Inferno so there is no fontsrv. I can, however, run: fontsrv only exists in plan9port. - erik

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread sl
still a bit pixilated 1 bit fonts are legible. this is a feature. sl

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Oleksandr Iakovliev
On 2013-12-11 19:45 , Blake McBride wrote: The problem is that the fonts are low-res and pixilated (when compared to almost any other program on the Mac). (I think I saw the same problem under Linux.) You can turn the pixilation in the advantage by using Terminus font - one of my favorites

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Rubén Berenguel
When I installed p9ports in my new Macbook Air (around 4 months ago), fontsrv didn't compile out of the box, I had to compile it separately. For me all available fonts read perfectly well and sharp (Mac OS X 10.9 on Air 13 and Mac OS X 10.6.8 on Macbook 13) Regards, Ruben On Wed, Dec 11, 2013

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
I checked. fontsrv didn't compile. I'm sure I can get it to compile but I don't see the point. Acme comes up, I can change fonts, etc.. What will fontsrv buy me? Incidentally, when I look on the net at picture or videos of acme, the fonts they show on all of those are pixilated too. See:

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Check here: https://vimeo.com/64487176 The slight pixelation comes from the video compression. The font is Monaco, on my old Macbook How are you exactly changing fonts, though? On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: I checked. fontsrv didn't compile. I'm

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
Your font does look better than what I have (but not perfect). Monaco didn't come with 9p9. Where did you get that? I am changing font via the Acme Font command on the tag line; i.e. Font /usr/local/plan9port/font/fixed/unicode.9x15B.font It is changing the font. The change is obvious.

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread sl
Those look like mine. Obviously it is highly usable, but the fonts shown are pixilated and not smooth like fonts that come with the Mac, Linux, etc. It's a matter of taste, but I prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. The gray, fuzzy stuff eventually takes a toll on my eyes. sl

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread erik quanstrom
It's a matter of taste, but I prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. The gray, fuzzy stuff eventually takes a toll on my eyes. s/taste/eyesight/, perhaps? - erik

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Rubén Berenguel
In my current computer the fonts look as crisp as any native Mac app, except for slashes where some jagginess can be seen on close inspection. Usually I'm not close enough to the computer to notice, but large fonts have this (currently I'm using Cochin 20 and AnonymousPro 16) To get Monaco or any

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: I'm sure I can get it to compile but I don't see the point. The point is that fontsrv allows p9p programs (including acme) to use whatever true-type font you already have on the system. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Mark van Atten
cd /usr/local/plan9/src/cmd/fontsrv/ 9 mk install works fine on my system (p9p on OSX 10.8.5) Mark. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Rubén Berenguel ru...@mostlymaths.net wrote: In my current computer the fonts look as crisp as any native Mac app, except for slashes where some jagginess can

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread sl
It's a matter of taste, but I prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. The gray, fuzzy stuff eventually takes a toll on my eyes. s/taste/eyesight/, perhaps? Perhaps, but I like to think differences of opinion don't necessarily indicate physical disability. sl

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: I'm sure I can get it to compile but I don't see the point. The point is that fontsrv allows p9p programs (including acme) to use whatever true-type

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Dec 11 15:32:25 EST 2013, s...@9front.org wrote: It's a matter of taste, but I prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. The gray, fuzzy stuff eventually takes a toll on my eyes. s/taste/eyesight/, perhaps? Perhaps, but I like to think differences of opinion don't necessarily

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Mark van Atten
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:30 PM, s...@9front.org wrote: It's a matter of taste, but I prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. The gray, fuzzy stuff eventually takes a toll on my eyes. s/taste/eyesight/, perhaps? Perhaps, but I like to think differences of opinion don't necessarily

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread sl
When I began using acme, sam, 9term, I much cared about ttf fonts. But I, too, have come to prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. A running joke is that prolonged used of Plan 9 damages your eyesight until you no longer care what anything looks like. Presumably, at this point,

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
Okay. I build and installed fontsrv. I have it running. Now when I do: 9p ls font it lists all the fonts on my system. One of them is Courier. From acme, I tried: Font Courier But that doesn't work. It tells me: can't open font file Courier: No such file or directory It seems fontsrv

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread andrey mirtchovski
see the first reply in this thread On Wednesday, December 11, 2013, Blake McBride wrote: Okay. I build and installed fontsrv. I have it running. Now when I do: 9p ls font it lists all the fonts on my system. One of them is Courier. From acme, I tried: Font Courier But that

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
I see. Sorry. I tried two different ones and I got: can't open font file /mnt/font/Courier: bad height or ascent in font file can't open font file /mnt/font/Menlo-Regular: bad height or ascent in font file On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote: see

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
Sorry again. Re-read first post. I forgot the 12a/font part since it wasn't displayed in the ls. Now it works as I had hoped. This totally answers my question. Thank you all! Blake On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: I see. Sorry. I tried two

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Dec 11, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: How can I access the font from acme? See the EXAMPLES section of the fontsrv(1) manpage. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
Interesting. On the bottom it says fontsrv has no support for X11. Is there a way to use the fonts that come with Linux? Another question. Is there a way to use a specific font with sam? Thanks! Blake On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: On Dec 11,

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Dec 11, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Another question. Is there a way to use a specific font with sam? See the EXAMPLES section of the fontsrv(1) manpage. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
Figured it out. export font=/mnt/font/Courier/12a/font sam On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Interesting. On the bottom it says fontsrv has no support for X11. Is there a way to use the fonts that come with Linux? Another question. Is there a way

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Mark van Atten
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Interesting. On the bottom it says fontsrv has no support for X11. Is there a way to use the fonts that come with Linux? It does support X11 now. Mark.