Re: Why XML is a bad idea[longish] (was Re: [abcusers] draft for V:)

2001-01-06 Thread Richard Robinson
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson [w]rites: | On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Wendy Galovich wrote: | |Really?? What do the Dead Sea Scrolls sound like in abc?? :-) | (Sorry John, I couldn't resist!) | | Quite right too - it's the best bit of bait I've seen in ages :)

Re: [abcusers] Finding music files

2001-01-06 Thread Frank Nordberg
John Chambers wrote: So how does one go about identifying which of the graphics files and/or PDF/PS files contain music? [snip] How did you discover those 7560 images of music? How would one go about sifting through the billions of images on the Net and identifying

Re: Why XML is a bad idea[longish] (was Re: [abcusers] draft for V:)

2001-01-06 Thread Frank Nordberg
John Chambers wrote: | | Really?? What do the Dead Sea Scrolls sound like in abc?? :-) | (Sorry John, I couldn't resist!) Hmm ... Maybe we could find the transcriptions on the Web, stick an ABC header on a few passages, and see what they sound like. It makes as much sense as

Re: [abcusers] WWW music notation formats (was: Why XML is a bad idea...)

2001-01-06 Thread Laura Conrad
"Frank" == Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Wil was talking about formats in which music *information* is available, not formats which graphically display information. All the stuff in GIF or PDF on Musica Viva comes from music information which has been

Re: Why XML is a bad idea[longish] (was Re: [abcusers] draftfor V:)

2001-01-06 Thread Frank Nordberg
John Henckel wrote: At 04:39 PM 1/5/2001 +0100, Frank wrote: I've started building a multiformat sheet music search engine, indexing music in GIF, JPEG, PS, PDF and ABC formats (the only truly cross-platform compatible formats for notated music). What?? You forgot the most important

Re: [abcusers] draft for V:

2001-01-06 Thread Laura Conrad
"James" == James Allwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James On the topic of voice numbers needing to be contiguous James (Laura's post); this restriction did exist in early James versions of abc2midi, but the current version should allow James non-contiguous voice numbers. No,

Re: Why XML is a bad idea[longish] (was Re: [abcusers] draft for V:)

2001-01-06 Thread Frank Nordberg
John Chambers wrote: Still, I'd estimate that there are maybe 20K truly distinct ABC tunes on the web that my search program has found, on about 125 machines. Here are the 123 ABC sites I've listed at The Free Sheet Music Directory. It's probably not absolutely identical to John's list

Re: [abcusers] Finding music files

2001-01-06 Thread Antti Kaihola
On Sat, 06 Jan 2001, John Chambers wrote: So how does one go about identifying which of the graphics files and/or PDF/PS files contain music? It seems to me that discovering that these contain music is far from trivial. For the gif and png files, it's probably not possible with the

Re: [abcusers] Finding music files

2001-01-06 Thread Phil Taylor
Antti Kaihola wrote: On Sat, 06 Jan 2001, John Chambers wrote: So how does one go about identifying which of the graphics files and/or PDF/PS files contain music? It seems to me that discovering that these contain music is far from trivial. For the gif and png files, it's probably

Re: Why XML is a bad idea[longish] (was Re: [abcusers] draft for V:)

2001-01-06 Thread Eric Galluzzo
Richard Robinson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Wendy Galovich wrote: At 09:31 PM 1/5/2001 UTC, John Chambers wrote: ... In a couple cases, people have scanned in music so that others can transcribe it to abc. (This isn't unusual; it has been done with a lot of old documents, most

Re: Why XML is a bad idea[longish] (was Re: [abcusers] draft for V:)

2001-01-06 Thread Eric Galluzzo
John Chambers wrote: Laura writes: | I think the problem is that parsing lilypond files is more complicated | because they potentially have more structure than ABC files, and can | have includes, etc. I don't know how difficult what you do with the | ABC would be in practice. I think

Re: Why XML is a bad idea[longish] (was Re: [abcusers] draft for V:)

2001-01-06 Thread Gianni Cunich
On Juanury 4th John Henckel suggested to make the abc notation XML compatible, but then said he had changed his mind since that would have meant would sacrifying too much of the clarity and usability of ABC. Richard Robinsons replyed: Have you ever looked at raw musixtex, as, eg, hint hint,

Re: Why XML is a bad idea[longish] (was Re: [abcusers] draft for V:)

2001-01-06 Thread John Chambers
Eric writes: | I don't want to do that myself, you understand; just curious, because it | was such a very long time that they weren't available. | | On the other hand, I'm sure the copyright has expired by now Part of the fun of this story was that the original "owners" tried to make a

[abcusers] Hotbot can seach for ABC

2001-01-06 Thread John Henckel
At 01:26 PM 1/6/2001 +0100, you wrote: Here are the 123 ABC sites I've listed at The Free Sheet Music Directory. Hi Frank, I discovered yesterday that HotBot can search for web pages that contain files with specified extensions. When I told HotBot to search for all ABC files, it found 1100