Re: [abcusers] re : re: what does that means ?? slurs and ties

2002-05-28 Thread Jeff Bigler
From: John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 01:54:13 UTC | I suggest nothing like that. Many users seems to use ties instead | of slurs. I suggested only to make them both legal (in the | standard). What can do more can do less. I will try to use | brackets for slurs when

AW: [abcusers] re : re: what does that means ?? slurs and ties

2002-05-28 Thread Toni Schilling
Jeff Bigler wrote: ... I totally agree with all. And if we handle it like this the only problem is to find out if the _writer_ knows what ties and slurs are. Toni To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

[abcusers] Re: The F F (and F F2) problems

2002-05-28 Thread DavBarnert
James Allwright wrote: The inconsistency is deliberate. The point is that when you play a hornpipe or anything else with dotted rhythm (or swing, or whatever you want to call it), keeping a 3:1 ratio is rather harder than keeping a 2:1 ratio and doesn't really add much musically apart from

Re: [abcusers] Re: The F F (and F F2) problems

2002-05-28 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, 28 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Allwright wrote: The inconsistency is deliberate. The point is that when you play a hornpipe or anything else with dotted rhythm (or swing, or whatever you want to call it), keeping a 3:1 ratio is rather harder than keeping a 2:1

Re: [abcusers] Re: To tell the dancer from the dance

2002-05-28 Thread John Chambers
John Walsh | ... However, I think that a | lot of the instrument specific--and other--notation could be introduced | from the users end, if there just is sufficient flexibility in abc. (And | there is, at least potentially.) For instance, suppose we had a | generalization of the much-overused

Re: [abcusers] re : re: what does that means ?? slurs and ties

2002-05-28 Thread John Chambers
Jeff wrote: | From: John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] | In any case, most musicians don't consider them to be different. | | This one does. :-) Some folk musicians may not consider them to be | different, but I'd argue that most classical musicians do. Yeah; fiddlers generally distinguish

Re: [abcusers] re : re: what does that means ?? slurs and ties

2002-05-28 Thread Phil Taylor
John Chambers wrote: Jeff wrote: | From: John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] | In any case, most musicians don't consider them to be different. | | This one does. :-) Some folk musicians may not consider them to be | different, but I'd argue that most classical musicians do. Yeah; fiddlers

Re: [abcusers] Re: The F F (and F F2) problems

2002-05-28 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, 28 May 2002, James Allwright wrote: On Tue 28 May 2002 at 08:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Allwright wrote: The inconsistency is deliberate. The point is that when you play a hornpipe or anything else with dotted rhythm (or swing, or whatever you want to call

Re: [abcusers] Re: The F F (and F F2) problems

2002-05-28 Thread John Chambers
James Allwright wrote: | It sounds like you're saying that cannot be used to notate the | first notes of Mari's Wedding to play as I've always heard it | played. This would be unacceptable. | | No-one else has used Mairi's Wedding to define the meaning of . | What and gives you in abc2midi

Re: [abcusers] Re: The F F (and F F2) problems

2002-05-28 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, 28 May 2002, John Chambers wrote: But this would definitely decrease your rebel points. Maybe you could make up for it by having options that generate the latest in metal/industrial/whatever that critics are railing against. Then we could run through O'Neill's or Playford

Re: [abcusers] re : re: what does that means ?? slurs and ties

2002-05-28 Thread Jack Campin
The only user friendly approach is to allow ties between different notes and slurs between identical notes. Anything else is merely harrassing your users with silly intellectual hair splitting. Tried playing the McFarlan MS tune Shuffle and Cut I posted a while back via a player program

Re: [abcusers] re : re: what does that means ?? slurs and ties

2002-05-28 Thread Don Whitener
I am not a programmer, but I have been a musician for many years, and I am just starting to use the 'magic' of ABC. I am just beginning to really appreciate the effort that has gone into its development, and what a wonderful tool it is. I promised myself that I would stay out of this, but...

Re: [abcusers] Re: The F F (and F F2) problems

2002-05-28 Thread John Walsh
John Chambers writes: Actually, what would be better would be to have it recognize R:hornpipe as meaning that implies a triplet, while R:strathspey rewrites as . While strathspeys do have triplets, they are always notated as such (and have three notes). But it's common to