Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-21 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes First congratulations to Guido on putting this together - it does seem to include most of the updated features. I have stayed out of most of the discussions on what to include/exclude from the standard, but would like to give a group of

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-21 Thread MCPearce0
In a message dated 21/07/2003 11:59:49 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online Date: 21/07/2003 11:59:49 GMT Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet 1

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-17 Thread Richard Robinson
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 09:37:48AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote: for those interested, I have uploaded the A proposal for a new ABC 2.0.0 standard (rev. 14/7/2003) on my site. Have a look: http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#ABC%20Plus%20draft It took me quite some time to get this

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-16 Thread David Webber
From: Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hear here ! (I'm never quite sure which that should be) Hear! hear! - you are inviting speople to listen to what somone has just said. :-) Dave David Webber Author of MOZART the music processor for Windows - http://www.mozart.co.uk Member of the

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-16 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:28:59AM +0100, David Webber wrote: From: Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hear here ! (I'm never quite sure which that should be) Hear! hear! - you are inviting speople to listen to what somone has just said. :-) ... to what someone at this location just

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread David Webber
From: Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, one little thought occurred to me, re the much-discussed and little-agreed ! staff-break. With no prejudice as to whether this ought to exist, etc etc (except that, the more I think about it, the more I'd like it, so, if it helps ...) it needn't

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread Phil Taylor
Richard Robinson wrote: But, one little thought occurred to me, re the much-discussed and little-agreed ! staff-break. With no prejudice as to whether this ought to exist, etc etc (except that, the more I think about it, the more I'd like it, so, if it helps ...) it needn't conflict with the

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread John Chambers
David Webber writes: | | Forgive me if this has been suggested before but could not a double | | !! | | be used to indicate a line break. This would be consistent with | the !whatever! usage with absence of any characters indicating a | line break. | | It still leaves existing files as a problem

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:14:50AM +, John Chambers wrote: David Webber writes: | | Forgive me if this has been suggested before but could not a double | | !! | | be used to indicate a line break. This would be consistent with | the !whatever! usage with absence of any characters

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread Buddha Buck
Richard Robinson wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:14 So all we can do is, find all abc programs that aren't being maintained, and document the common subset :( I think it would be appropriate to have a section in the standard on legacy applications. If it's documented that abc2win and

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread David Webber
From: John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Webber writes: | | Forgive me if this has been suggested before but could not a double | | !! | | be used to indicate a line break. This would be consistent with | the !whatever! usage with absence of any characters indicating a | line

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread John Chambers
Richard Robinson writes: | On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:14:50AM +, John Chambers wrote: | | Solutions that require a change in abc2win aren't solutions at all. | | So all we can do is, find all abc programs that aren't being maintained, | and document the common subset :( Unfortunately, this

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 03:30:04PM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:14:50AM +, John Chambers wrote: | | Solutions that require a change in abc2win aren't solutions at all. | | So all we can do is, find all abc programs that aren't being

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:10:04AM -0400, Buddha Buck wrote: Richard Robinson wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:14 So all we can do is, find all abc programs that aren't being maintained, and document the common subset :( I think it would be appropriate to have a section in the

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 05:07:34PM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | | We don't have it nearly as bad as the HTML and java crowds. Our few | incompatibilities are trivial in comparison. Yes, that's true. Perhaps !blink! is only a matter of time ... | If I add

[abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread Guido Gonzato
Hello, for those interested, I have uploaded the A proposal for a new ABC 2.0.0 standard (rev. 14/7/2003) on my site. Have a look: http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#ABC%20Plus%20draft It took me quite some time to get this unimpressive thing together, so please: * only constructive criticism

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread MCPearce0
First congratulations to Guido on putting this together - it does seem to include most of the updated features. I have stayed out of most of the discussions on what to include/exclude from the standard, but would like to give a group of comments on this draft form (and I have counted to several

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 09:37:48AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote: Hello, for those interested, I have uploaded the A proposal for a new ABC 2.0.0 standard (rev. 14/7/2003) on my site. Have a look: http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#ABC%20Plus%20draft It took me quite some time to get this

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread Phil Taylor
Thank you Guido, for your valiant attempt at updating the abc standard. Here are a few comments: File organisation - perhaps this needs a paragraph to itself? Section 2 says that tunes are separated by blank lines, but says nothing about text between tunes (should be explicitly permitted,

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread John Chambers
Phil Taylor writes: | | Section 2.1.2, the paragraph on Global accidentals could at | least mention the possibility of adding these to the key signature | rather than dotting them through the tune as an option. Since this is one of the things I've implemented, I was also thinking of suggesting

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread John Chambers
Phil Taylor writes: | | Section 2.1.4 on Clefs does nothing to heal the biggest single | schism between programs, i.e. what the correspondence between | abc symbol and note pitch is for different clefs. Some programs | keep it the same - e.g. in BarFly C always means middle C, regardless | of

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread John Chambers
Richard Robinson writes: | But, one little thought occurred to me, re the much-discussed and | little-agreed ! staff-break. With no prejudice as to whether this ought | to exist, etc etc (except that, the more I think about it, the more I'd | like it, so, if it helps ...) it needn't conflict with

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:00:26AM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | But, one little thought occurred to me, re the much-discussed and | little-agreed ! staff-break. With no prejudice as to whether this ought | to exist, etc etc (except that, the more I think about it, the