Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-09 Thread Phil Taylor
John Chambers wrote: (And I oughta get me a Mac, too. I wonder how many of the Mac apps run on OSX? ;-) Only Skink (which is in Java, and therefore runs on anything) I think. However, classic Mac OS itself will run under OS X, and you can have both systems running at once, so older programs

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-08 Thread Jack Campin
A chord sequence written A E/A D/A A means something very clear to me *exactly* as written. I'm *guessing* it means [Acea] [A,EGBe] [A,DFAd] [Acea] in a key signature of three sharps, but should I (or a piece of software generating such an expansion) have to guess? Do you object to

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-08 Thread Mike Whitaker
On Monday 08 April 2002 11:13 am, you wrote: A chord sequence written A E/A D/A A means something very clear to me *exactly* as written. I'm *guessing* it means [Acea] [A,EGBe] [A,DFAd] [Acea] in a key signature of three sharps, but should I (or a piece of software generating such

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-08 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
- Original Message - From: Mike Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC On Monday 08 April 2002 11:13 am, you wrote: A chord sequence written A E/A D/A A means something very clear to me

RE: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-08 Thread Toni Schilling
From: Laurie (ukonline) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... My own guess is that D/A means any combination of the notes D F# and A in any octaves, so long as it contains at least one of each note and the lowest note of all of them is an A in some octave. Nice. This should be enough for a

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-08 Thread Henrik Norbeck
Mike Whitaker wrote: | I need this. Exactly as notated. A chord sequence written A E/A D/A A | means something very clear to me *exactly* as written. AbcMus would play this correctly. John Chambers wrote: It should also be implemented with the chord optional. Part of the use of this

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-08 Thread Wil Macaulay
Skink runs on OS X - that's what I use for development. And version 1.0 will be ready Real Soon Now (play tunes, better layout). Barfly runs on OS X under Classic. wil John Chambers wrote: Henrik Norbeck writes: | Mike Whitaker wrote: | | I need this. Exactly as notated. A chord sequence

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-07 Thread Mike Whitaker
C/D is actually Dsus7(9) without 5th, but D/C is actually D7 with the 7th in the bass I don't think it would make any sense to try to get player programs to understand slash-chords, but I don't think they should be forbidden. Band In A Box only plays a single note in the bass and the simple

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-07 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
] Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC C/D is actually Dsus7(9) without 5th, but D/C is actually D7 with the 7th in the bass I don't think it would make any sense to try to get player programs to understand slash-chords, but I don't think they should

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-07 Thread John Chambers
Mike Whitaker writes: | C/D is actually Dsus7(9) without 5th, but | D/C is actually D7 with the 7th in the bass | | I don't think it would make any sense to try to get player programs to | understand slash-chords, but I don't think they should be forbidden. | Band In A Box only plays a

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-07 Thread John Chambers
Laurie writes: | And what exactly does it mean to you? | | (Faced with this, Muse would currently just interpret the chord up to the | first thing outside its limited syntax, so E/A is played as E, D/A is played | as D). | | Mike Whitaker wrote: | I need this. Exactly as notated. A chord

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-05 Thread Luis Pablo Gasparotto
Atte Andre Jensen wrote: I also proposed one, didn't catch on. I don't think the reason is the above. I think only very few people use abc for jazz. You are right but I'm one of these few people. Luis Pablo Gasparotto _ Do You Yahoo!?

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-05 Thread John Chambers
Atte writes: | | - people who can't distinguish between a single standard that allows | chords to be machine-readable, and 'you've left my pet notation out' | | I also proposed one, didn't catch on. I don't think the reason is the | above. I think only very few people use abc for jazz. This is

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-05 Thread John Chambers
Atte writes: | On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, John Chambers wrote: | Luis Pablo Gasparotto writes: | | I think the problem is in the ABC-to-ABC stuff when transposing chords. | | I transpose Cm7(b5) six steps up (ninth for alto saxophone) this chord | | becomes in Am7(gb5). It parses b like a note and

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-05 Thread Mike Whitaker
On Friday 05 April 2002 15:12 pm, John Chambers wrote: 1. ABC users who play jazz and other styles that need fancy chords should discuss the subject with the idea of coming up with one machine-readable chord standard, and Erm, some folk does! ok, ok - some 'contemporary acoustic

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-05 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Luis Pablo Gasparotto wrote: Atte Andre Jensen wrote: I also proposed one, didn't catch on. I don't think the reason is the above. I think only very few people use abc for jazz. You are right but I'm one of these few people. Me too... -- l8er Atte To

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-05 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
First: thanks for a really reasonable posting! On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, John Chambers wrote: Atte writes: | | - people who can't distinguish between a single standard that allows | chords to be machine-readable, and 'you've left my pet notation out' | | I also proposed one, didn't catch on.

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Mike Whitaker
Is there some standard way to notate complex chords like m7(b5) 7(b13)...? No. No two people seem to be able to agree on a standard for naming chords. (I speak from experience of trying to *propose* a naming convention for chords that would allow ABC-to-MIDI programs to parse them.) The

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Luis Pablo Gasparotto
I think the problem isn't the ABC-to-MIDI parsing because programs like abcMIDI allows you to define chords using %%MIDI chordname in the tune head. So if you like to use an m7(b5) chord like Cm7(b5) you will need to add: %%MIDI chordname m7(b5) 0 3 6 10 I think the problem is in the ABC-to-ABC

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Mike Whitaker
On Sunday 03 March 2002 13:26 pm, Luis Pablo Gasparotto wrote: I think the problem isn't the ABC-to-MIDI parsing because programs like abcMIDI allows you to define chords using %%MIDI chordname in the tune head. So if you like to use an m7(b5) chord like Cm7(b5) you will need to add: %%MIDI

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Mike Whitaker
On Thursday 04 April 2002 16:48 pm, John Chambers wrote: Lest someone thing that it's silly to have a term for chords without a third, I might note that you can buy accordions with a gadget that cuts out the thirds from all the left-hand chords. So there's enough demand for such chords

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread James Allwright
On Sun 03 Mar 2002 at 10:26AM -0300, Luis Pablo Gasparotto wrote: I think the problem isn't the ABC-to-MIDI parsing because programs like abcMIDI allows you to define chords using %%MIDI chordname in the tune head. So if you like to use an m7(b5) chord like Cm7(b5) you will need to add:

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Luis Pablo Gasparotto
OK! Tell me what I got to do. Thank you very much. Luis Pablo Gasparotto James Allwright wrote: On Sun 03 Mar 2002 at 10:26AM -0300, Luis Pablo Gasparotto wrote: I think the problem isn't the ABC-to-MIDI parsing because programs like abcMIDI allows you to define chords using %%MIDI

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Luis Pablo Gasparotto
Mike Whitaker wrote: Check the list archives for the last debate on 'standard' chord names. I will. Can you give me a link to these archives. Thank you very much. Luis Pablo Gasparotto _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Luis Pablo Gasparotto wrote: I think the problem isn't the ABC-to-MIDI parsing because programs like abcMIDI allows you to define chords using %%MIDI chordname in the tune head. So if you like to use an m7(b5) chord like Cm7(b5) you will need to add: %%MIDI chordname

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, John Chambers wrote: Luis Pablo Gasparotto writes: | I think the problem is in the ABC-to-ABC stuff when transposing chords. | I transpose Cm7(b5) six steps up (ninth for alto saxophone) this chord | becomes in Am7(gb5). It parses b like a note and not like a flat. This

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, James Allwright wrote: On Sun 03 Mar 2002 at 10:26AM -0300, Luis Pablo Gasparotto wrote: I think the problem isn't the ABC-to-MIDI parsing because programs like abcMIDI allows you to define chords using %%MIDI chordname in the tune head. So if you like to use an

Re: [abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-04 Thread Mike Whitaker
On Friday 05 April 2002 07:44 am, you wrote: On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Luis Pablo Gasparotto wrote: I think the problem isn't the ABC-to-MIDI parsing because programs like abcMIDI allows you to define chords using %%MIDI chordname in the tune head. So if you like to use an m7(b5) chord like

[abcusers] Complex Chords in ABC

2002-04-03 Thread Luis Pablo Gasparotto
Hi Folks, Is there some standard way to notate complex chords like m7(b5) 7(b13)...? Kind regards, Luis Pablo Gasparotto _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your