Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-10 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 09:49:22PM -0400, Eric Galluzzo wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:11, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Where does this bang thing come from? ! was always called shriek when I were a lad. Yes, it's a new one to me too.

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-10 Thread Bert Van Vreckem
Richard Robinson wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 09:49:22PM -0400, Eric Galluzzo wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:11, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Where does this bang thing come from? ! was always called shriek when I were a lad. Yes, it's a new one

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-10 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 09:49:22PM -0400, Eric Galluzzo wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:11, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Where does this bang thing come from? ! was always

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-10 Thread David Webber
From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, I remember pling! On my University maths course in the 1960s. Along with carrot as in A-carrot: upside down circumflex over an A. Caret (pronounced the French way rather than like a root vegetable) is the ^ symbol. It comes from printing where it is

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-10 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, I remember pling! On my University maths course in the 1960s. Along with carrot as in A-carrot: upside down circumflex over an A. Caret (pronounced the French way rather than like a

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote: I'm told that recent versions of abcm2ps use the operator to set the time point back to the beginning of a bar so that an additional layer of notes can be added. This sounds like a good idea, but I haven't seen any detailed description of how it

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread Bryancreer
Phil Taylor wrote - I'm told that recent versions of abcm2ps use the operator to set the time point back to the beginning of a bar so that an additional layer of notes can be added. This sounds like a good idea, but I haven't seen any detailed description of how it works. (and Irwin gave

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread henrik
Bryan Creer wrote about the symbol: Did anyone outside the abcm2ps community know about this until now. If another developer had started using for their pet idea we'd have the same sort of conflict. It was discussed on this list before it was implemented in abcm2ps. I remember well having

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone outside the abcm2ps community know about this until now. If another developer had started using for their pet idea we'd have the same sort of conflict. This idea was proposed by Taral on this list on Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:43:51 -0700.

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does every new developer have to trawl through the entire abcusers' archive and the documentation of all 83 programmes mentioned on Frank Nordberg's list to find out if a symbol has been used? That's why Guido is now writing an uptodate standard.

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Where does this bang thing come from? ! was always called shriek when I were a lad. Yes, it's a new one to me too. I always knew it as thwack-tung although I've come across shriek before. But ! is even easier to write than 'bang'...

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread henrik
Bryan Creer wrote: Does every new developer have to trawl through the entire abcusers' archive and the documentation of all 83 programmes mentioned on Frank Nordberg's list to find out if a symbol has been used? You've got a good point there, Bryan. I too had forgotten about the until I

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread John Chambers
Bryan Creer wrote: | Phil Taylor wrote - | (and Irwin gave him the details.) | | This sounds like a really neat idea but isn't it the sort of thing that leads | to the ! and !! debacle. Did anyone outside the abcm2ps community know | about this until now. If another developer had started

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-08 Thread John Norvell
It seems that over the years a lot of ideas have been informally discussed on the list, with the usual amount of agreement and disagreement, and then the energy of the discussion dies out and there's no assertive decision one way or the other. Perhaps with the new leadership we need a semi-formal

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-07 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Donald White wrote: One solution might be to allow the definition of additional voices on the fly - or within a block of music. That way, when you only have a small portion of a piece that requires independent voices on one staff you don't have to pad the entire piece

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-07 Thread Phil Taylor
Donald White wrote: One solution might be to allow the definition of additional voices on the fly - or within a block of music. That way, when you only have a small portion of a piece that requires independent voices on one staff you don't have to pad the entire piece with invisible rests. I'm

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-07 Thread John Chambers
Donald White writes: | I keep flipping back and forth between which is easier - using | different note lengths within a chord, or multiple voices. Where | multiple voices on a single staff move in parallel, it is easiest | to use chords and then just deal with independent movement

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

2003-07-07 Thread John Chambers
Phil Taylor writes: | John Chambers wrote: |[GBd]3 means [G3B3d3] |[GB][Ac] means [G3/2B3/2][A/2c/2] |[B-G2]3Bcd means [B3-G6]Bcd | and so on. | | I wonder if anyone has implemented it already. | | I would have thought that most programs would handle [GB][Ac]. | BarFly does. And