[abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread Guido Gonzato
Hello, for those interested, I have uploaded the A proposal for a new ABC 2.0.0 standard (rev. 14/7/2003) on my site. Have a look: http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#ABC%20Plus%20draft It took me quite some time to get this unimpressive thing together, so please: * only constructive criticism

Re: [abcusers] Acciaccaturas

2003-07-14 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 13:29:15 +0100, Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does abc have a separate way of notating acciaccaturas (the slashed grace note) as opposed to the appoggiatura (unslashed)? I think it exists only in abcm2ps, putting a slash just after the opening brace: {/B}c Is

Re: [abcusers] Announcement - abcpp 1.3.0 released

2003-07-14 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:14:22 UTC, John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | What about :|: ? I think this is another abc2win-ism (?) which not all | programs seem to cope with. In general, people seem to use any and all combinations of :|[] as complex bar lines. In

Re: Kind of solved (Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics

2003-07-14 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 20:19:47 +0200 (CEST), Manuel Reiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I have noticed that both of you have dropped the original abc2ps's transpose function. I guess there's a good reason for that, but I found it quite convenient. [snip] There was no

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps?

2003-07-14 Thread Forgeot Eric
this is what the archive abcm2ps-3.6.4.zip contains: 165376 07-08-03 13:10 abcm2ps-3.6.4/abcm2ps.exe I guess he d/l the archive from JF Moine's website, and not your, otherwise he would have got this binary ;) Otherwise for more help with abcm2ps (automatic laucher), this page may be

Re: [abcusers] what's your Walshaw number?

2003-07-14 Thread Bruce Olson
Jack Campin wrote: After meeting Richard Robinson at the Newcastleton festival the weekend before last and playing a few tunes in the same sessions (there can't have been many Scottish tune sessions featuring two clarinets before) it occurred to me that probably most people on this list

[abcusers] Looking for help on printing

2003-07-14 Thread squeezer
Hey, folks-- I have what I hope is a simple question with a simple answer. I want to take an ABC file that contains a few dozen tunes and print the whole thing, either one tune per page or multiple tunes. Is there a way to do this with any of the ABC programs? I currently use ABC2Win, and

Re: [abcusers] Announcement - abcpp 1.3.0 released

2003-07-14 Thread John Chambers
Jean-Francois Moine writes: | On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:14:22 UTC, John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | While merging jcabc2ps in abcm2ps, I set this feature in a different | way: the sequence of bars (8 bars max) are displayed as written, with | only little expansions, and no reduction. For

Re: [abcusers] what's your Walshaw number?

2003-07-14 Thread Phil Gregg
If you've ever played with only 20 people, and each of them has played with only half that number other than those you have played with, and this relationship is repeated for those others, it takes only 10 jumps to exceed the population of the world. So, Walshaw numbers must of necessity be very

Re: Kind of solved (Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics

2003-07-14 Thread John Chambers
Jean-Francois Moine writes: | On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 20:19:47 +0200 (CEST), Manuel Reiter | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | [snip] | I have noticed that both of you have dropped the original abc2ps's | transpose function. I guess there's a good reason for that, but I found it | quite convenient. |

Re: [abcusers] what's your Walshaw number?

2003-07-14 Thread Calum Galleitch
On Monday 14 July 2003 1:36 pm, Phil Gregg wrote: So, Walshaw numbers must of necessity be very small for all of us! The nature of the beast is that it is actually quite difficult to get a high Erdos number (well, mine is infinite). I seem to recall reading somewhere a mathematician's

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread MCPearce0
First congratulations to Guido on putting this together - it does seem to include most of the updated features. I have stayed out of most of the discussions on what to include/exclude from the standard, but would like to give a group of comments on this draft form (and I have counted to several

Re: [abcusers] what's your Walshaw number?

2003-07-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 11:41:37AM +0100, Jack Campin wrote: After meeting Richard Robinson at the Newcastleton festival the weekend before last and playing a few tunes in the same sessions (there can't have been many Scottish tune sessions featuring two clarinets before) No, there have been.

Re: [abcusers] what's your Walshaw number?

2003-07-14 Thread Phil Gregg
You're not far off there, Richard! My instrument is actually Irish tuned fourstring banjo, but my friends refuse to use the words player and banjo in the same sentence. They insist it's ungrammatical. They refer to me instead as a Banjo Hitter... So, thanks to you, maybe I'll rename the

Re: [abcusers] what's your Walshaw number?

2003-07-14 Thread Wil Macaulay
I've never coauthored a paper with Paul Erdos, but he spoke at my graduation... wil Jack Campin wrote: After meeting Richard Robinson at the Newcastleton festival the weekend before last and playing a few tunes in the same sessions (there can't have been many Scottish tune sessions featuring

RE: [abcusers] what's your Walshaw number?

2003-07-14 Thread Gerry McCartney
Slightly off topic but Phil Gregg wrote: My instrument is actually Irish tuned fourstring banjo, but my friends refuse to use the words player and banjo in the same sentence. They insist it's ungrammatical. They refer to me instead as a Banjo Hitter... So, thanks to you, maybe I'll rename the

Re: [abcusers] what's your Walshaw number?

2003-07-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:51:54PM +0100, Phil Gregg wrote: You're not far off there, Richard! My instrument is actually Irish tuned fourstring banjo, but my friends refuse to use the words player and banjo in the same sentence. They insist it's ungrammatical. They refer to me instead as a

Re: [abcusers] Looking for help on printing

2003-07-14 Thread Alice Corbin
I think that all of the abc2ps/abcm2ps clones will do this. Ali On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 07:42:38AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, folks-- I have what I hope is a simple question with a simple answer. I want to take an ABC file that contains a few dozen tunes and print the whole thing,

[abcusers] Triplet?

2003-07-14 Thread Rickard Blixt
Hello,With ABC2Win, how do I get a triplet with quarter notes? Regards,Rickard[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-14 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Surely a performer wants to know what the writer meant? And lack of repeat starts means there is no information as to how the tune was to be played, eg whether the whole tune repeated or just to the previous double or repeat

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 09:37:48AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote: Hello, for those interested, I have uploaded the A proposal for a new ABC 2.0.0 standard (rev. 14/7/2003) on my site. Have a look: http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#ABC%20Plus%20draft It took me quite some time to get this

Re: [abcusers] Looking for help on printing

2003-07-14 Thread Forgeot Eric
Is there a way to do this with any of the ABC programs? I currently use ABC2Win, and can't figure out a way to do it. I hate the idea of printing each individually. I thought it was possible to print several pages with abc2win... otherwise as someone said, abc#2ps can do this. If it's only

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread Phil Taylor
Thank you Guido, for your valiant attempt at updating the abc standard. Here are a few comments: File organisation - perhaps this needs a paragraph to itself? Section 2 says that tunes are separated by blank lines, but says nothing about text between tunes (should be explicitly permitted,

Re: [abcusers] Triplet?

2003-07-14 Thread Phil Taylor
Hello, With ABC2Win, how do I get a triplet with quarter notes? L:1/8 (3A2B2C2 ought to work (and you ought to be able to print multiple tunes if your version of abc2win is registered too.) Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread John Chambers
Phil Taylor writes: | | Section 2.1.2, the paragraph on Global accidentals could at | least mention the possibility of adding these to the key signature | rather than dotting them through the tune as an option. Since this is one of the things I've implemented, I was also thinking of suggesting

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

2003-07-14 Thread John Walsh
Bernard Hill writes: Surely a performer wants to know what the writer meant? And lack of repeat starts means there is no information as to how the tune was to be played, eg whether the whole tune repeated or just to the previous double or repeat bar. imo notation which is incorrect should

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread John Chambers
Phil Taylor writes: | | Section 2.1.4 on Clefs does nothing to heal the biggest single | schism between programs, i.e. what the correspondence between | abc symbol and note pitch is for different clefs. Some programs | keep it the same - e.g. in BarFly C always means middle C, regardless | of

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread John Chambers
Richard Robinson writes: | But, one little thought occurred to me, re the much-discussed and | little-agreed ! staff-break. With no prejudice as to whether this ought | to exist, etc etc (except that, the more I think about it, the more I'd | like it, so, if it helps ...) it needn't conflict with

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:00:26AM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | But, one little thought occurred to me, re the much-discussed and | little-agreed ! staff-break. With no prejudice as to whether this ought | to exist, etc etc (except that, the more I think about it, the