Fw: [abcusers] Clarification wanted on abc draft standard 2.0 (fwd)

2003-10-02 Thread Neil Jennings
implied by the note. My program handles percussion as well as melody (though does not yet import it from abc). An indicator in the file header may be better, although existing files won't have it, of course. Neil Jennings -Original Message- From: Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [abcusers] mup

2003-10-13 Thread Neil Jennings
' then this would be the preferred approach. Neil Jennings - Original Message - From: Dave Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2003 12:28 Subject: Re: [abcusers] mup On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 01:03:23PM +0200, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Would be nice to start

Re: [abcusers] Re: mup

2003-10-14 Thread Neil Jennings
My program HARMONY certainly knows the difference between Modes, Minor and Major, as does the abc format. MIDI does NOT distinguish modes, but the key meta-event is only for documentation anyway, makes no difference to the audio output. - Original Message - From: Laura Conrad [EMAIL

Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files

2003-10-16 Thread Neil Jennings
My program HARMONY can present the list of files within an abc tunebook in either title or number sequence. If anyone wants the file written out in a new sequence, I could easily add that facility. Neil Jennings (Download HARMONY shareware from www.greenhedges.com. Its original function

Re: [abcusers] Re: ABC to HTML viewer

2003-10-17 Thread Neil Jennings
May be interesting to note that my program HARMONY provides tablature for Anglo Concertina (and Melodeon). I don't know of any other abc program which does. Neil Jennings www.greenhedges.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 October 2003 13:54

Re: [abcusers] Re: ABC to HTML viewer

2003-10-18 Thread Neil Jennings
accompaniment are wonderful. I was only suprised not to see it at http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc and suggest you contact Chris. Norman http://www.normanschmidt.net Neil Jennings wrote: May be interesting to note that my program HARMONY provides tablature for Anglo Concertina (and Melodeon). I

Re: [abcusers] Drone notes

2003-10-25 Thread Neil Jennings
My program HARMONY will soon allow import of multi-voice abc files (this is currently under development), and it can display multiple voices in the Bass clef. I will let you know when it is ready. Neil Jennings www.greenhedges.com - Original Message - From: Frank Nordberg [EMAIL

Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files

2003-11-23 Thread Neil Jennings
handheld Thanks Derek Bone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil Jennings Sent: 16 October 2003 09:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files My program HARMONY can present the list of files within an abc

Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files

2003-11-30 Thread Neil Jennings
Rewriting the abc file sorted alphabetically has now been implemented, and will be available in the next release of HARMONY Neil - Original Message - From: Neil Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 November 2003 09:51 Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files I

Re: [abcusers] Bar Lengths

2003-12-05 Thread Neil Jennings
Don't know if it helps, but the next release of HARMONY will implement parts, so you can put in a formula such as A ( (AB)*2 (AC)*2 )*3 Neil Jennings - Original Message - From: John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 December 2003 22:20

Re: [abcusers] unfolding og repeats

2004-01-24 Thread Neil Jennings
In what context? My program HARMONY will play repeats as written, and if you export as a MIDI and then re-import, the repeats will have been 'unfolded' Neil Jennings (Sorry, it is Windows based) - Original Message - From: Atte André Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13

Re: [abcusers] unfolding og repeats

2004-01-25 Thread Neil Jennings
If you really want a program to unfold abc directly, I could do that, but it would be Windows, not Linux. Would take a little time to do. Neil - Original Message - From: Atte André Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2004 21:15 Subject: Re: [abcusers] unfolding

Re: [abcusers] unfolding og repeats

2004-01-30 Thread Neil Jennings
. BTW, why ? Phil From: Neil Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you really want a program to unfold abc directly, I could do that, but it would be Windows, not Linux. Would take a little time to do. Neil - Original Message - From: Atte

Re: [abcusers] Exporting to Midi.

2004-03-16 Thread Neil Jennings
My program HARMONY imports abc, including multiple voices, and writes MIDI. It also has facilities to add MIDI effects (modulation, pitch bend etc) to individual notes via 'note styles' The latest release also lets you play tunes in via MIDI keyboard (in step time only) See my web stie

Re: [abcusers] somebody on this list has a virus

2004-03-30 Thread Neil Jennings
I too have had messages bounced back to me that I didn't send. I am using Eudora - don't think it is susceptible. At 10:26 AM 3/30/04, you wrote: I just got a virus bounce message from Freeserve; their virus checker was under the impression that [EMAIL PROTECTED] had sent one of their users an

Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Neil Jennings
Have you tried importing the MIDI to my program HARMONY? This can also write abc. (But is only available for Windows) (download from www.greenhedges.com) If I had the MT format to hand, or some sample files, I could probably write a direct import to HARMONY - would there be a large market for

Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Neil Jennings
There is a manual included in the download, a little out of date on the newer options but still valid for most. There is also a comprehensive help file in the program - see the help menu To edit notes, click on one with the RIGHT mouse button - you will get an edit menu which includes adding

Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Neil Jennings
Oh yes, and if you find it useful, or are impressed by it's facilities, PLEASE let us all know! Thanks Neil At 10:32 PM 3/30/04, you wrote: Ok, I installed your Harmony program. I only had a few minutes to play with it, but I was able to convert a couple of midi songs to scores. I couldn't

Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-31 Thread Neil Jennings
No sarcasm at all, a genuine request for positive feedback. I don't know of such a program, but might be able to write one. The only difficult point is finding out how to assign the data stream. Once that is done, I can easily capture the MIDI events to a file. At 06:29 PM 3/31/04, you wrote:

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-04-01 Thread Neil Jennings
MusicXML is plain text, just as all the markup languages are, but that doesn't mean you don't have to decode it. Can you decode even simple HTML by just reading it?. MusicXML needs to be read along with the DTD. (By the way, I am slowly adding MusicXML export to HARMONY) Neil At 05:05 PM

Re: [abcusers] something that ought to work...

2004-04-15 Thread Neil Jennings
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Re: [abcusers] something that ought to work...

2004-04-16 Thread Neil Jennings
:54, Neil Jennings wrote: If you make a couple of small changes, my program HARMONY can deal with it a) Put [ and ] around the v:1 and v:2 in the body (But not in the header) OK either way in BarFly, but the way Neil suggests is the way you should have done it, as the other way is deprecated

Re: [abcusers] something that ought to work...

2004-04-16 Thread Neil Jennings
Just a thought - are the text spacers supposed to have any effect on the score, or just space the abc listing? At 07:45 PM 4/15/04, you wrote: On 15 Apr 2004, at 18:54, Neil Jennings wrote: If you make a couple of small changes, my program HARMONY can deal with it a) Put [ and ] around

Re: [abcusers] !Current specification!

2004-04-24 Thread Neil Jennings
by everyone? If the parser were being written in lockstep with the specification, proper design might indeed be the result. Kindof an evolution meets extreme programming approach. (Not that I really ever understood Extreme programming). Would anyone else be interested in such? Neil Jennings wrote

Re: [abcusers] !Current specification!

2004-04-25 Thread Neil Jennings
Rubbish. To be useful, the parser should be a procedure with an API which can be called from a standard executable program. If you produce an acsii file, you have just replaced one problem with another. - Original Message - From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [abcusers] AlphabetSoup output data structures

2004-05-11 Thread Neil Jennings
At 08:21 AM 5/9/04, you wrote: Or, perhaps, by having a note object contain a list of (zero or more) pitch objects rather than just one pitch value. A noteobject with a duration and no pitch objects would, of course, be a rest. The problem with this is that the duration would be

Re: [abcusers] File names

2004-04-30 Thread Neil Jennings
The abc 2.0 draft has the following %%abc-charset iso-8859-1 (or other iso code) Neil At 04:25 PM 4/29/04, you wrote: Jack Campin wrote: Would not a charset specifier be a good addition? (if there is already such, I shall be most embarrassed... as I am pretty much every day). A rule such

Re: [abcusers] AlphabetSoup output data structures

2004-05-13 Thread Neil Jennings
writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Neil | Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | Or, perhaps, by having a note object contain a list of (zero or | more) pitch objects rather than just one pitch value. A noteobject | with a duration and no pitch objects would, of course, be a rest

Re: [abcusers] reusable parser

2004-04-27 Thread Neil Jennings
It's looking promising so far, but as pointed out, maybe not a good idea to parse an entire abc tunebook in one go. It should at least have a selective option. The main idea behind a common parser would be to enforce a single and unambiguous version of the format. Currently, there are many

Re: [abcusers] reusable parser

2004-04-27 Thread Neil Jennings
Any sensible project should start with agreed requirements, which will be classified as 1. Mandatory 2. Desirable 3. Optional. I suggest that the first stage should be requirement gathering - initially high-level. Details of code should be left to a later stage. We should also consider a format

Re: [abcusers] reusable parser

2004-04-27 Thread Neil Jennings
We seem to be drifting some way off the topic. (The number of buttons on a mouse, the case-sensitivity of filenames, etc.) Requirements and feasibility should come first The most fundamental requirement is that a single version of abc is parsed in only one way. All dependent programs can then

Re: [abcusers] What software will translate this correctly?

2004-06-09 Thread Neil Jennings
My HARMONY is not to be confused with Harmony Assistant, of course. I believe I was first to use the name, back in 1996, but I may be wrong there. Chuck Boody wrote: Harmony Assistant makes total hash out of it. only one part, 4/4 meter etc... Chuck Boody = On Wednesday, June 9,

Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files

2004-08-11 Thread Neil Jennings
size in Harmony ?? Any ideas Regards Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Jennings Sent: 30 November 2003 09:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files Rewriting the abc file sorted alphabetically has now

Re: [abcusers] abc format to chord chart

2004-08-12 Thread Neil Jennings
Can you give an example of what tou expect it would look like? You might be able to do this by using two of my programs HARMONY to take an abc file with aligned lyrics, and write a Karaoke style MIDI Find MIDI chords to print the chords and lyrics Richard Walker wrte: I'm looking for a simple

Re: [abcusers] On parsers again - Outlook PHP

2004-08-16 Thread Neil Jennings
I wasn't for when YOU dropped them so much as when the computer ops dropped them (and didn't tell you). Particularly BEFORE the run! That was why we put big diagonal lines in felt pen across the tops. How many computer users nowadays have ever seen or a punch card? I have a couple in

Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files

2004-08-26 Thread Neil Jennings
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Jennings Sent: 30 November 2003 09:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files Rewriting the abc file sorted alphabetically has now been implemented, and will be available in the next release of HARMONY Neil - Original Message

Re: [abcusers] spam

2004-09-03 Thread Neil Jennings
This facility IS provided in the version 2.0 (draft) specification Neil John J Foerch wrote: Hello, Brand new abc user here. I was attracted to abc because it is written as ascii text, and so I can keep my music notes on paper and in computer files in the same syntax. I'm more interested

Re: [abcusers] [ABCp] Parts

2004-10-24 Thread Neil Jennings
Because the P: text appears above the staff, people have mis-used it to add comments which have nothing to do with parts. In the tune header, it can have a formula such as (AB)2(AC)3 In the body, it must be just a single letter HARMONY can play tunes according to the formula, including nested

Re: [abcusers] [ABCp] Parts

2004-10-27 Thread Neil Jennings
the separator is displayed on the score Hopefully, leaving a space would make it acceptable to existing programs? Neil Remo D. wrote: Neil Jennings wrote: Because the P: text appears above the staff, people have mis-used it to add comments which have nothing to do with parts. In the tune header

Re: [abcusers] abc2xml

2004-11-15 Thread Neil Jennings
I am currently working on an XML export capability for my program HARMONY, but no promises when it will be ready! Richard Robinson wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:33:25PM +0200, Kristian Nrgaard wrote: Does anyone know if abc2xml is a work in progress? I myself miss support

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-17 Thread Neil Jennings
Have you looked at my program HARMONY? It can do a lot of what you want, including points 1,2,3,5,6,8,and 9, and can write the result in abc format I am currently updating the notation entry by adding drag and drop from toolbars - some of this is already in place. Don Parrish-Bell wrote: This

[abcusers] New version of HARMONY, with improved graphical editing

2004-11-18 Thread Neil Jennings
News Flash A new version of HARMONYis now available a my web site www.greenhedges.com This features drag and drop of chord names from the toolbar onto notes, and also drag and drop of accidentals. Watch out for further improvements in this area, such as floating toolboxes! Neil Neil Jennings

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-30 Thread Neil Jennings
Have you tried my program HARMONY? If so, what does it not do, that you need? Neil Jennings www.greenhedges.com Don Parrish-Bell wrote: I have played a bit with Harmony Assistant and it does indeed look promising ... It's author wants $70.00 for it, which is probably not too bad, but I hate

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-30 Thread Neil Jennings
At 11:03 AM 11/30/2004, you wrote: Have you tried my program HARMONY? If so, what does it not do, that you need? Neil Jennings www.greenhedges.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http