Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2003-03-04 Thread Phil Taylor
Jean-François Moine wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:44:29 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Taylor) wrote: John Chambers has proposed a series of extensions to handle this, and I tried to implement them in my own program. It turned out to be a nightmare to get it working in the player. Eventually I

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2003-03-03 Thread ANewman110
The latter. People on this list will try to tell you that you don't really want to do that, which of course you do or you wouldn't be asking :) Regards, Aaron In a message dated 2/28/2003 12:43:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm having problems getting the

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2003-03-03 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:44:29 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Taylor) wrote: John Chambers has proposed a series of extensions to handle this, and I tried to implement them in my own program. It turned out to be a nightmare to get it working in the player. Eventually I got frustrated with it and

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2003-03-02 Thread Henrik Norbeck
John Chambers wrote: Since I'm also involved with styles like trad Scandinavian music (How can you possibly write music without using 3rd and 4th endings?) I don't really understand your problem. I've played A LOT of Scandinavian music and NEVER seen a 3rd and 4th ending in

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2003-03-02 Thread John Chambers
Henrik Norbeck writes: | John Chambers wrote: | Since I'm also involved with styles like trad Scandinavian music | (How can you possibly write music without using 3rd and 4th | endings?) | | I don't really understand your problem. I've played A LOT of | Scandinavian music and

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2003-02-28 Thread John Chambers
| I'm having problems getting the variant ending feature to work for me. | This works for 1 and 2 being different: | | AA,2A, B,2C |1DD3 z3 :||2 DD6 |] | | But I can't seem to find a way to indicate 1-3 are the same with 4 being | different. I've tried encapsulating it in quotes, brackets,

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2003-02-28 Thread Phil Taylor
Steven K. Mariner wrote: I'm having problems getting the variant ending feature to work for me. This works for 1 and 2 being different: AA,2A, B,2C |1DD3 z3 :||2 DD6 |] Your program should have flagged :|| as an error - the correct symbol for a repeat bar is :| But I can't seem to find a

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread James Allwright
On Thu 13 Dec 2001 at 11:57AM +, Phil Taylor wrote: When John first suggested multiple alternate endings and repeats of 2 times I thought it was a good idea and started to implement it in BarFly. Getting it to display was easy, but getting it to play correctly turned out to be a

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread John Chambers
James Allwright writes: | On Thu 13 Dec 2001 at 11:57AM +, Phil Taylor wrote: | When John first suggested multiple alternate endings and repeats of | 2 times I thought it was a good idea and started to implement it in | BarFly. Getting it to display was easy, but getting it to play

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread Buddha Buck
At 01:34 PM 12-13-2001 +, James Allwright you wrote: On Thu 13 Dec 2001 at 11:57AM +, Phil Taylor wrote: A few things to consider when discussing repeat syntax: * It has to coexist happily with other methods of specifying repeats, such as the P: field in the header, and not rule

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread John Chambers
Phil taylor writes: | A few things to consider when discussing repeat syntax: | | * It has to coexist happily with other methods of specifying repeats, | such as the P: field in the header, and not rule out the use of conventional | musical indirection (e.g. using the Segno). (A lot of people

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread John Chambers
Phil taylor writes: | A few things to consider when discussing repeat syntax: | | * It has to coexist happily with other methods of specifying repeats, | such as the P: field in the header, and not rule out the use of conventional | musical indirection (e.g. using the Segno). (A lot of people

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread James Allwright
On Thu 13 Dec 2001 at 03:30PM +, John Chambers wrote: How about a reminder of the best place to get the current version? http://abc.sourceforge.net/abcMIDI/ James Allwright To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John BTW, where does the 1.6 standard explicitly forbid this final :|? I John don't seem to see anything at all on the topic, only the statement John that :| marks the end of a repeated section. This would imply that John

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread James Allwright
On Thu 13 Dec 2001 at 03:24PM +, John Chambers wrote: | * We also need a (preferably illustrated) description of how the various | repeats are to be displayed in conventional notation. If we have a | 4x repeat - |:::...:::|, should that be displayed with four dots | arranged

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread Phil Taylor
John Chambers wrote: Phil taylor writes: | * It is very common to see repeats written as: | | abc |[1 abc :|[2 cba :| | | which is wrong (the last repeat should be written as || or |]), and is | explicitly forbidden by the 1.6 standard. At the moment, because it's | so common BarFly lets it go

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread Jack Campin
I think it is reasonable to require |: at the start of a repeat section Not given the amount of ABC out there that doesn't have one. Like all of mine. And I am NOT interested in re-editing the whole damn lot to please simpleminded fussbudget implementations. : If we can have multiple

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread John Chambers
Jack Campin wrote: | ... A very long time ago (years) I posted an | example of what such a structure might do: the 9/8 march Heights of | Dargai has the form ABAC DBDC, and I've seen that in a modern book (in | two staff lines) as | | [1,2 A [1,3 B :| | [3,4 D [2,4 C :| | | which was

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread John Chambers
Phil taylor writes: | John Chambers wrote: | Phil taylor writes: | | * It is very common to see repeats written as: | | abc |[1 abc :|[2 cba :| | | This is done because with most current ABC tools, it's the *only* way | to indicate four times through. It's definitely crappy notation, but | it's

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread John Chambers
Phil taylor writes: | John Chambers wrote: | Phil taylor writes: | | * It is very common to see repeats written as: | | abc |[1 abc :|[2 cba :| | | This is done because with most current ABC tools, it's the *only* way | to indicate four times through. It's definitely crappy notation, but | it's

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread John Walsh
John Chambers writes: Going back to || or [| isn't a very good idea. It's common practice to use double bars to mark the major phrases within a section, and they are (almost) never used as repeat boundaries. The code should go back to |: or the start of the tune. We oughta state this in the