[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 12.36, Caolán McNamara wrote: If the overview is there are a thousand little things and not a small set of large scale specific projects then that's still a useful overview. We could still sweep them into some general themes. Indeed. Thanks for adding the subtopics that came up

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 16.24, Christophe Strobbe wrote: I don't have a comprehensive overview of LibreOffice UI accessibility either, unfortunately. However, if you are looking for ways to prioritise issues, one way may be based on the accessibility requirements in the ETSI standard EN 301 549, which

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 12.01, Colomban Wendling wrote: * Only on-screen elements of the document are exposed to ATs.  This is on purpose probably for performance (not sure if we have any numbers to base it on?) so elements are lazy-loaded and destroyed, but it has non-trivial impact on various AT

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 14.20, Jason White wrote: It seems to be very much a matter of unaddressed bugs and regressions. The Document Foundation advertised a contract (presumably fulfilled by now) to rewrite the accessibility regression testing infrastructure in C++. FWIW, that conversion to C++ is

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 31/05/2022 22.13, Jason White wrote: On 31/5/22 14:11, David P Á wrote: Other problem with accessibility is comments and tracked changes on Writer. The issues with these systems make using Writer problematic in professional settings. I agree, and in particular, the screen

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
On 07/06/2022 11.54, Michael Weghorn wrote: Could you please explain what the expected (and actual) behavior would be when showing an Impress presentation? I think it makes sense to create a bug report to keep track of this (and I'd be happy to do so, but don't know what to write). (In a

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-07 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi Michael, All, (Apologies if this message has too many addressees; I'm not sure which ones I should drop.) After some online searching, it seems that JAWS at least used to support IAccessible2, originally mainly for IBM Lotus Symphony. According to a tweet by Marco Zehe from December last

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26 [IAccessible2 support in JAWS]

2022-06-07 Thread Michael Weghorn
Hi Christophe, On 07/06/2022 12.14, Christophe Strobbe wrote: After some online searching, it seems that JAWS at least used to support IAccessible2, originally mainly for IBM Lotus Symphony. According to a tweet by Marco Zehe from December last year, JAWS handles Chromium and Edge via