Re: [ActiveDir] LDAP Logon Name

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Williams
Not quite. You need to escape the comma like so: ((objectCategory=person)(objectClass=user)(displayName=phelps\, k*)) --Paul - Original Message - From: Matheesha Weerasinghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [ActiveDir] LDAP Logon Name

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Williams
You need to escape the comma, as a comma is a delimiter and in the case of displayName it shouldn't be a delimiter: ((objectCategory=person)(objectClass=user)(displayName=phelps\, k*)) I've not read the whole thread, so can't discuss whether or not this is the best way to do what you

Re: [ActiveDir] LDAP Logon Name

2006-08-17 Thread Matheesha Weerasinghe
Thanks Paul M@ On 8/17/06, Paul Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to escape the comma, as a comma is a delimiter and in the case of displayName it shouldn't be a delimiter: ((objectCategory=person)(objectClass=user)(displayName=phelps\, k*)) I've not read the whole thread, so

RE: [ActiveDir] Recreate BUILTIN\Incoming Forest Trust Builders

2006-08-17 Thread Han Valk
First forgive my ignorance, I didn't that the group should only exist in the forest root domain. But how is it possible that CHILDDOMAIN\Incoming Forest Trust Builders has permissions on the child domain in ADUC when there shouldn't be a CHILDDOMAIN\Incoming Forest Trust Builders? -Original

Re: [ActiveDir] Recreate BUILTIN\Incoming Forest Trust Builders

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Williams
I'm not in a position to test whether this is a forest-wide or domain-wide principal. However, when you can't find something you think should be there, you should search the GC. I've seen numerous people have issues with a user or group not existing only to find it's in a parent domain.

RE: [ActiveDir] Recreate BUILTIN\Incoming Forest Trust Builders

2006-08-17 Thread Dean Wells
I'm not in a position to properly prove-out the existence and/or reason for the child domain ACEs. However, the Incoming Forest Trust Builders group uses a well-known SID of S-1-5-32-557, this kind of SID lacks domain affiliation, i.e. it doesn't technically belong to any particular domain within

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
in addition to that DC1 having FSMOset1 and DC2 having FSMOset2 transfer FSMOset1 from DC1 to DC2 apply patches to DC1 and reboot and check everything (event logs DCdiag, etc) if everything OK! transfer FSMOset1 and FSMOset2 from DC2 to DC1 apply patches to DC2 and reboot and check

RE: [ActiveDir] Moving Sysvol .

2006-08-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
to mitigate that risk you can also place a DUMMY file (lets say with the size of something like 1 GB) normally, if the disk with the DIT/SYSVOL fills up you will not have any space left to work with or to take any actions so solve the problem. however, if create one (or more) dummy files

RE: [ActiveDir] Setting FFL=2 automatically when building first DC in forest

2006-08-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Title: Setting FFL=2 automatically when building first DC in forest Perhaps another change request for Longhorn? :) already has it! DCPROMO contains a crap load of new switches for an answer file but also as arguments for DCPROMO jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [ActiveDir] Adding a 2003 Server to AD2000

2006-08-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
see: http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/19/110.aspx jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris PohlschneiderSent: Friday, August 11, 2006 20:05To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Adding a 2003 Server to

RE: [ActiveDir] backup and restore AD.

2006-08-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
when a DC is restored from the system state (amongst others): * the restored RID pool is thrown away (invalidated) and a new RID pool is requested at the RID master * the invocation ID of the AD DB is changed (which prevent USN rollbacks) so in your case it works because the backup is not

RE: [ActiveDir] Netlogon and SYSVOL after Restore

2006-08-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
see my blog which contains an article about kicking NTFRS (SYSVOL) to replicate after a non-auth rest of the SYSTEM STATE. Make sure the partner you specify in the registry key is also the partner that is used in one of the inbound COs of the restored DC as it otherwise does not work (this

[ActiveDir] w2k3 dcpromo failure

2006-08-17 Thread Al Lilianstrom
We're in the process of replacing our w2k DCs with w2k3 machines. Forestprep and domainprep went fine as well as putting the first new w2k3 DC up. Yesterday we demoted one of the old w2k machines and removed it from the domain. Configured a w2k3 server with the same name and IP and ran

RE: [ActiveDir] w2k3 dcpromo failure

2006-08-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
after demotion you still need to delete the server object manually in sites and services (this is normal) (everything else like computer account, frs stuff and ntds settings is removed by dcpromo) 1) you can promote servers to DCs while they are member of a domain or not. it does not matter.

RE: [ActiveDir] LDAP Logon Name

2006-08-17 Thread joe
I'm sorry small correction... You have two different things you have to worry about special characters in, DNs andSearch Filters. They have different sets of characters you need to worry about and also have twodifferent methods of escaping the characters. In DNs you escape special

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread John Strongosky
I cornfused is this a standard practice as I thought you did not want to move the FMSO roles back and forth. john From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge deSent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:33 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
the reason is that is a DC dies during the patching you do not have to seize the rolesIMHO, I prefer transfering over seizing Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards, Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto Senior Infrastructure Consultant MVP Windows Server - Directory Services LogicaCMG Nederland

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread John Strongosky
Makes sensehow many dc's do you have in you infrastructure... From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge deSent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:02 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

[ActiveDir] [OT] Longhorn Beta

2006-08-17 Thread WATSON, BEN
Outside of my MSDN account is there a preferred way to obtain Longhorn Betas for testing? ~Ben

RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Longhorn Beta

2006-08-17 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
bit torrent? (just kidding) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:35 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] [OT] Longhorn Beta Outside of my MSDN account is there a preferred way to obtain Longhorn

Re: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
As a person who tests/patches a bunch of single DCs I've never seen a patch kill a server. Driver update may and has, yes. Impair functionality of the server, yes. But kill it completely? Microsoft tests patches ahead of time and they would find ahead of time if basic functionality of a

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Deji Akomolafe
This will be one of the rare occassions I disagree with Jorge. I see no usefulness in this ping pong exercise. DC dies in the process of patching and it is the one holding a specific FSMO role. So what? Just seize the role and wipe the server and do your cleanup and reinstall. Due dilligence

Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Longhorn Beta

2006-08-17 Thread Matheesha Weerasinghe
Technet Plus On 8/17/06, WATSON, BEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Outside of my MSDN account is there a preferred way to obtain Longhorn Beta's for testing? ~Ben List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive:

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread joe
I completely concur with Jorge on his process. It takes a lot less hassle and a lot less feeling of concern to move a FSMO prior to an update of a machine than to have to seize the role later regardless of the reason of it going down. Especially when you have a script that applies the NTSUTIL

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread John Strongosky
Whets the time interval on moving these before you patch the DC's that the roles were on. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:32 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO

Re: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Williams
Valid point. But you should [try and] restore from the backup that ran the night before and that you verified successfully completed before you applied the patch... ;-) If you have a document process that goes through the proper change control, then there shouldn't be any reason to do

Re: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Williams
I have. When bulk-patching NT 4 servers several died (OS was trashed, not the h/w) and had to be restored from the backup the night before. There was that issue where the patch wrote ntoskrnl beyond the 7.8 GB section of the disk, although that hit workstations more than servers as they'd

Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Longhorn Beta

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Williams
http://connect.microsoft.com/ --Paul - Original Message - From: WATSON, BEN To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: [ActiveDir] [OT] Longhorn Beta Outside of my MSDN account is there a preferred way to

Re: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Skid marks? More like blood, guts, gore and medics yelling Triage! I can tell you though that we've had way more issues installing service packs than patches though. Gimme a patch Tuesday and I don't blink an eye. hand me a service pack and I'm not looking forward to it. SBS 4.5 we

RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Longhorn Beta

2006-08-17 Thread WATSON, BEN
That was definitely the first place I checked, and unless Im blind (which Ive been accused of many times by the way), I dont believe its an available option on the connect website to test. Ill probably end up just using my MSDN copy in our test environment to create a Longhorn DC.

Re: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
NT 4.0? 'nuff said. NT should be killed off. :-) The patching mechanisms of the NT 4.0 era is not the patch mechanisms of today. We've gone from like 8 patch engines down to 2. We didn't have patch Tuesday when NT was built. Paul Williams wrote: I have. When bulk-patching NT 4 servers

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Deji Akomolafe
I completely disagree with you. I understand the thinking behind the move-roles-before-patch stance. I just don't buy into it. Test patch and be sure it doesn't kill things. Test your config changes and be sure it doesn't break things. Test, test and test more before you move into production.

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread joe
I am not into restoring from backup unless absolutely required. I like how easy it is to rebuild and repromote. As I mentioned in the other post, I consider DCs to be expendable like individual drives in a RAID Set. Now if I was crazy enough to run a bunch of other services on a DC that were

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread joe
Minutes to hours. Depends on what exactly is going on. If it was heavy maintanence do it as far as you want in advance, if rolling through applying patches move the role, patch the server, move the role back. Depending on how many patches and the reboot times it could be less than 5 minutes with

RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Longhorn Beta

2006-08-17 Thread joe
I believe Longhorn/Vista is an invite only Connect program. -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:46 PMTo:

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
Nah, even when you test stuff still can go wrong. It takes so little time to just transfer the roles. I dont backup/restore, I just reimage/rebuild. DCs are expendable. Last big client I had, the forest roles floated around the enterprise core sites, and the domain roles floated around the

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread joe
That is fine Deji, you can completely disagree as much you want, it wouldn't be the first time we haven't agreed. :) BTW, I never said Best Practice, I said this is what I do and I agree with Jorge. But in the end, I don't care about best practices, I do what I think is right and the least

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Deji Akomolafe
I always try to frame my responses around the requested info. In tis case, the OP wanted to know the folloing: After I apply the patches from Microsoft what is the beat practices for the boot order...or does it matter?1. Remote DC/GC's first2. no. 13. then no 2. The simple and logical answer

RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Longhorn Beta

2006-08-17 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
true when invited you can activate it on the connect site and play around with it Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards, Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto Senior Infrastructure Consultant MVP Windows Server - Directory Services LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven) ( Tel :

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Gordon Pegue
What about us poor admins, who for a variety of reasons outside their control, don't have a "test" environment? I'm just a little guy, supporting a small business that doesn't have kilobucks to spare for non-production equipment. I sweat bullets every time MS issues updates and I spend a

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Deji Akomolafe
That argument went out the window when the following happened: Dell started selling desktops with jillion gigabyte drive space for under $1000 Microsoft started giving away Virtual Server with very liberal Windows Server 2003 licenses. Us poor admins no longer needed bazillion dollars to

Re: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
IMHO the important thing is you are patched. However you do it is your process. Now if one of these processes are slowing you down reevaluate. But if you can patch within a reasonable about of time (06-040) and you have a process for patching (06-040)... who cares? (btw ... we ARE

Re: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
VPC and VMware is freeand you watch the gang on www.patchmanagement.org report issues and share information. I patch at home first, watch the listserves, make sure I have a good backup and let 'er rip. If you have a good backup..and a DR strategy already in place, patches are not a big

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Gordon Pegue
Sorry- You just don't get it do you... I'll be as blunt as possible: Management won't allow it! Gordon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deji AkomolafeSent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:45 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
Time to find a new manager Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Pegue Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:59 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles

Re: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
What he said. Because who are they going to blame when 06-040 gets inside an unpatched network and nails Windows 2000 boxes and DOS's 2k3's? Do they not let you patch at all...or not let you test patches? How are you deploying or mitigating issues now? If I.. little SBSer that I am... can

RE: [ActiveDir] FMSO roles split, patch question.

2006-08-17 Thread Tony Murray
I agree with Jorge. Seizing is not a for the faint-hearted, as Brett's post from a while back shows... http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/msg39683.html Tony -- Original Message -- From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[ActiveDir] Single Space in LDAP query dropped: Why?

2006-08-17 Thread Jef Kazimer
I had posted this today, and I was curious if anyone knew why an LDAP filter drops the query when searching for a single space value? Though I was using Joe's ADfind, I did have the same results in ADSIedit, and thought someone better than I, may know why. It's not really a problem, just a