Geoff,
Increasing the session options is not a problem if your network and host server
are
man enough to handle the increased load
But you should be seeing warning messages on the host if your sessions are not
starting
because you are hitting max session limits.
Also did you see an earlier post I
Hi all,
OS: AIX 4.3.3
TSM: 5.1.5.1
TDP: 2.2.1
I have above setup and but unfortunately not able to get the rman
backup to tape. I tried to isolate the problem without TSM by simply using
rman to backup to an internal 4mm tape drive but get an error that unable to
initialize the subsystem
As far as I can see it's not Tivoli Storage Manager but Tivoli Subscription
Manager.
Regards,
Holger Speh
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Antwort an: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2002 22:12
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re:
Paul (or anyone who knows),
If Vin has the logging mode set to rollforward, does that impact
performance? I only suggest this because I have had a nagging slowdown
in some operations and the only change I can really identify is that we
switched from normal to rollforward logging. Just a wild
This is one reason I am looking into some of the new, cheaper ATA-based
disk arrays. 98% of restores come from the last few versions, so if you
can size the diskpool large enough (and turn caching on) that you rarely
need to go to tape, restores scream. Some of the initial prices I am
seeing are
Any particular link? I looked around what I think is the passport
advantage web site but I can't find it.
Does anybody on the list have the RPMs they can send me/put on an ftp
site/etc..? We are currently running ADSM 3.1.2.90 on AIX 4.3.3 and are
considering switching to 5.1.5.x on Linux but I
Hi all
I've been reading various posts about TDP for Exchange being slow
but I can't believe its supposed to be as slow as I'm seeing. At the
moment I'm only getting approx 500Kb/sec at a time when no
other backups are running, i.e network and server and doing very little.
I've tried various
Hi all,
TSM Server 5.1, Sun Solaris (tested also on W2K).
I defined two copies for each database volume (TSM mirroring) and a DB
Space Trigger.
When DB utilization reached the threshold for space expansion, TSM created
two mirrored copies of a new database volume in the same file system (as
Hello Vin,
our tsm-server is just on gigabit and some of the clients are also
there. My guess is that your restore - performance is just
showing what your drive can read ( maybe magstar - drives ? ).
I just assume that you are restorung from tape ... because i got nearly
exact the same throughput
why does having the diskpool in between improve performance?
-Original Message-
From: Alexander Lazarevich [mailto:alazarev;HERA.ITG.UIUC.EDU]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Multiple sessions per tape
Totally. We used to backup to tape. But
I've been reading various posts about TDP for Exchange being slow
but I can't believe its supposed to be as slow as I'm seeing. At the
moment I'm only getting approx 500Kb/sec at a time when no
other backups are running, i.e network and server and doing very little.
I've tried various
Hi all
Can anyone point me in the right direction for documentation on implementing
journaling on an active/active file and print win2k cluster. Is this even
supported??
Regards
Chris
Have a look at http://www.geocities.com/rees_chris
I've been having some discussions/arguments with co-workers (and myself at
times!) over this. The schedules for the TDP agents are ACTION=COMMAND with
an OBJECT of the command script that runs to start the TDP agent. What get's
run in the script has nothing to do with the nodename that you used to
Problem as follows:
DB2 UDB EEE with six partitions writing Transaction logs via userexit/API to TSM.
Userexit uses one Nodename, one Filespace.
Diskpool migproc=6,but it uses only one drive to migrate files.
This is because there is only one filespace and one node (client). Is there any way to
Just go to ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management and
download what you want. It only uses ANONYMOUS and doesn't need (so far at
least) an IBM Registration ID. I never go to the web pages to get a
download.
Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.
The command line is your friend - ??
Conko, Steven wrote:
why does having the diskpool in between improve performance?
The latency is lower on writing to disk when you aren't writing at the
same speed as the media. If you're writing to a tape slower than the
tape can process it, you have to stop/start the media all the time.
Hello,
I can connect to that site if I put it in my browser however if I
use the Win2K FTP client or WS_FTP LE I cannot connect. I connect instantly
however I never receive anything back from the site. i.e. no prompt for user
name, etc. It just sits there and eventually times out. Anyone
1. page you are referred is not available already (??)
2. can you tell me where is TDP SQL 2.1.1 code available? I was looking
for
it on ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com but there is only 1.1.2 and 2.2.1
(and
5.1.5) releases. I had never seen any installation medium of this
release.
Are you
Be careful of your copypool reclamations with the disk cache turned on!!
There is a BIG performance hit on reclamation when the primary copy of the
file is on a DISK direct access storage pool. Then the MOVESIZETHRESH and
MOVEBATCHSIZE values are thrown out the window and the files are processed
Using a disk pool in between has some advantages: first of all if you want
to backup clients directly to tape you can run a number of sessions that
cannot be bigger than the number of available tape drives; furthermore
using disks you have the possibility to exploit the disk throughput that is
The real problem here is not that IBM has changed things. The real
problem is the serious lack of communications about the changes. One of
the first things you learn in project management is the importance of
communications with your user community. This is something that IBM
totally missed the
1. hundreds of clients can simultaneously back up to a disk pool. Only four
clients can back up simultaneously to a library with four tape drives.
2. Tape drives perform horribly if they stop and start frequently. If you
can stream the data to them fast enough to keep them busy ,they perform
Hi Chris
I see you have 100MB full duplex, but are you sure that your NICs (both in
TSM Server and Exch. server) and the switchports are set to 100 Full Duplex,
and NOT to automatic - in which case it still will use 100MB fd, but at a
terrible efficiancy cost.
Check this and check it again would
I would disagree with their lack of communications. With the Tivoli news
information was sent out on almost a weekly basis. They also offered a free
online class introducing people to the new web area. I was the only one on
the conference call I attended so I got a personal tour of everything.
Hi,
We are backing up to the TSM's 150 GB Diskpool and restoring from the 150 GB
Diskpool as well. Although we haven't tried to back up straight to tape
(the DLT library has 2 DLT IV drives), we still can't explain why restores
from diskpool are faster than the backups using Gigabit. Our
And the issue is still there if you don't use CACHE=YES but don't completely
clear your backup pool.
We have more disk in our storagepool than is required for one night's
incremental - so we thought keeping some backups on disk was a good thing
(why migrate to tape if you don't need the space).
We've tried using 524MB and 131MB for our bufferpool size with no effect.
Our logpool size is 8MB. We have 99 percent db hit percentage. We aren't
using TSM mirroring on the db or log. The primaries (2GB) on the client are
on the same bus as the fiber adapter connected to the drive array
For all of those interested in following how this version is doing I'd like
to pass on some things I found in my backups last night.
1.I had a missed backup that I found had the scheduler stopped. So
I'm not sure why I see this in the log for it.
10/31/2002 01:41:51 ANR0406I Session
If I remember corectly journaling is not supported on W2K Cluster
server... or was not until recently (I found this on the list when I was
looking for the same info):
You should be aware that the TSM Journaling Engine service is not
supported in MS Cluster server. Only one TSm Journaling Engine
Any chance that expiration is running during this time? We saw some
similar
messages ( ANR0538I A resource waiter has been aborted ) with 5.1.1.1.
Ended
up at 5.1.1.4 for now which cleared that up.
10/30/02 12:06:09 ANR0812I Inventory file expiration process 191
completed:
Hi,
We are running TSM Server 4.1.6 on OS390 with a variety of
NT/UNIX/NetWare/Sun Solaris/etc. clients.
I know it's not rocket science but, I am having a hard time with my
inclexcl lists on the server side
my question for today is how do I do an include for the SYSTEM OBJECTS
pointing to a
Hi,
Thanks for pointing this out. So the Subscription manager is different
from Storage Manager with respect to database they use. If it is same or
similar database then still the tool could work to get information from
database in Tivoli Storage Manager right? Does anyone know (or can you ask
Planning on upgrading next week from 4.1.4.5 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10 (don't like
being on a version that is not supported!!)
Is there any way around the system objects problem?
Delete existing system objects start backing them up again after the
upgrade?
Anything else I need to be aware of?
Thanks,
I would like the specifics on this as well. What is the version of
the utility that allows you to do this Paul? Do you have a url that I could
look at that would provide some additional doc on it?
At 02:23 PM 10/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
In the past week we have implemented this
I just looked at the web site and the product documentation, and I agree
with Holger: this is completely unrelated to Tivoli Storage Manager (the
only commonality is that they happen to duplicate the TSM abbreviation).
As I mentioned before, you can send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you
have
I will not configure my out of office spamming software to reply to list
traffic!
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Hi,
I guess he's talking about the QLogic SANsurfer tool. The latest version
should be the 2.0.23 and you can download it from the QLogic website.
But be aware of some restrictions:
We tried to use it for persistent binding in an environment with dual
attached STK9940A drives. But the Windows
I've been struggling with a problem with various TDP for SQL clients for
about 12 months now. Although it manifests itself when performing TDP
backups, the problem is actually with SQL Server's VDI - Microsoft's
virtual device interface.
The problem occurs when SQL Server's MemToLeave area
Hi, everyone,
Are there thresholds for tape retirement of writing errors and reading errors? How
many are they?
Thanks for your help.
Tao Jiang
Coban Research Technologies
www.cobantech.com
713-271-7888 ext. 207
Hi, all,
I update it from 5.1.1.0 to 5.1.5.1, and restore db, but space is still not
sufficient. so I format it:
dsmserv format 1 log1.dsm 9 1 db1.dsm 50. and restore db succeed.
I am not sure if ANR2958E will happen again.
Does V5 have database size problem? I don't have it on v4.2.1.0 at all.
= On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:01:33 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm still relatively new to the *sm world, so I'm not sure how to go on the
storage pool issue. It was actually suggested to me that the best way to go
is just have one storage pool with collocation turned on. That kind of
makes
Hello,
is anybody able to connect to the Tivoli website??
The connection attempt times out and the error message says something like
www.tivoli.com has no DNS entry???
What is going on there by Tivoli? I need the knowledge base and the device
support list. It's urgent...
Mit freundlichen
= On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:21:10 -0600, Mark Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
It looks to me like you've painted yourself into a rather nightmarish
administrative corner. IMO, of course. If you want departments to have
control over their own data (and no one else's), I would think multiple
There have been some problems with resource waiters and locks.
It might be worth upping your server Resource Timeout value to 100
Gill, Geoffrey L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/31/2002 04:45:00 PM
Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc:
Does anyone know at what ADSM or TSM level DIRMC was added?
We have a potential TSM outsource contract, but the client has LOTS of old
TSM 3.7 and ADSM 3.1.xx versions..I'm talking 100's of 'em. Until we can get
them all rolled over to a supported release, I would like to implement DIRMC
to help
Why would reclamation fail on an offsite volume that is out of the library
where it should be, in the Vault? Of course the storage media is
inaccessible!
10/30/02 22:21:42 ANR1081W Space reclamation terminated for volume
U02628 -
storage media inaccessible.
I guess
Bill Boyer wrote:
Does anyone know at what ADSM or TSM level DIRMC was added?
I don't, but DIRMC was available in Tivoli ADSM 3.1
--
Wayne T. Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- University of Maine System -- UNET
is anybody able to connect to the Tivoli website??
The connection attempt times out and the error message says
something like
www.tivoli.com has no DNS entry???
Try http://216.140.178.15
Norbert Friemel
Neil,
We had the same problem began to pop up on a few of our SQL servers as well.
After working with Tivoli and MS, the start up switch recommended by MS is
what we use and have not had any problems out of SQL server backup since
implementing the switch.
Regards,
Matt Adams
Tivoli Storage
I always just send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and do a
set adsm-l nomail
that way the msgs don't come in while I'm away
then when I return I send [EMAIL PROTECTED] a msg
set adsm-l mail
to turn things on again...
Dwight
-Original Message-
From: Hamish Marson
1. First of all, look in the dsmsched.log file and look to see if
you have the message:
Using journal for '\\xxx-\c$'
It's not there but the service is started.
If you see this message, a journaled backup has taken place for
that filespace. You
I can still get to it, and though I work for IBM, I am not aware of any
magic powers that enable only IBMers to look at it.
Are you trying to go to a page within www.tivoli.com, or did you actually
try the main www.tivoli.com page? Try the main page to see if you can get
to it. If that doesn't
Does anyone know at what ADSM or TSM level DIRMC was added?
It's in
ADSTAR(TM) Distributed Storage Manager Version 1
User's Guide and Reference for Microsoft® Windows(TM)
Release 2
Third Edition (September 1994)
Document Number SH35-0125-02
snip
3.12 DIRMC
Use the
If you stop and restart the service, then tonight's backup will be a full incremental.
The journal service has to be running continuously between 2 backups or TSM will
always default to a full incremental.
Ryan Miller
Principal Financial Group
Tivoli Certified Consultant
Tivoli Storage
One other thing to check - has this file system had a full progressive
incremenatal backup made against it? Look at the filespace with a 'q
filespace' command and check to see whether or not their is data in the
Last Backup Completed Date/Time field. A full progressive backup must have
been done
Joseph,
I am not aware of any IBM position per se. RESOURCEUTILIZATION is simply
another tuning knob that was added to the product. Like any other
setting, the decision of when and how to use it is up to you.
Should you add it to your dsm.opt file? It depends. If your backups are
running fine
I'm finally getting around to building our new 4.2.x TSM IBM M80 AIX 4.3.3 server
(this box has been sitting for about 9 months) next week and wanted to ask for
opinions about which level I should take it to. For me, this is a big jump since I've
been living with a 3466 Netstore running
Gone to me also...
I noticed it gone earlier when I needed to access TDP/Oracle manuals
Finally I just went and dug up the install CD (sigh)
Dwight
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:storman;US.IBM.COM]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In Version 5.1, a new parameter was introduced in the tsmjbbd.ini file
named PreserveDbOnExit . If this is set to a value of 1, then the journal
is preserved across journal service restarts and reboots. It defaults to 0,
which means invalidate the journal across restarts and reboots.
At 12:14 PM
Geoff,
Make sure you are not using the QUIET option (just in case you are). QUIET
is nice when things are going well, but it is best to not use it when
diagnosing problems. Assuming that you are not using QUIET, then make sure
you see the 'Using Journal for ...' messages. If the messages are not
If I try to do a traceroute from netsys.com, it says unknown host.
I noticed some weird DNS things yesterday afternoon too-- traceroutes to
www.earthlink.com and www.microsoft.com failed too.
Perhaps another DDOS on the authoritative DNS root servers again?
Andy,
A few comments;
1) Was this the first incremental backup you ran after turning on
journaling? If so, then this is normal: the first backup will be a full
incremental (not to be confused with full backup) so that the journal
database(s) and server can be synched. Or did you do anything
We set it to 5 for servers that have the cpu/memory/os capable of
handling multiple concurrent backup streams, and leave it at 2 for those
that are borderline. For a beefy machine with multiple filespaces,
setting it higher will definitely improve backup elapsed times. But it
can put a big
Uh Sept 25 to Oct 31 is about 36 days... and in a note I received back
then stated that the tivoli site would only be around for another 37 days so
it looks like it is all Officially GONE !
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/
is what I was given for the new support page (took
The big clue (other than not seeing the message) that journal based backup
is not happening is the
large number of objects inspected.
Since jbb only backs up objects in the journal the number of objects
inspected should be very close
the number of objects actually backed up.
Since I seriously
I'm a bit disappointed word hasn't gotten out, but support for clustering
was implemented in client release 5.1.0.
Several new configurations settings were added to allow resources to be
journaled on multiple nodes within a cluster.
The new settings are DeferFsMonStart, DeferRetyInterval, and
Please be aware that the DNS server is down and our support site is
off-line, our web submission is also down.. We apologize for any
inconvenience and will report back when it is fixed..
thank you..
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of
ProtoTipo srl
TSM Server 5.1, Sun Solaris (tested also on W2K).
I defined two copies for each database volume (TSM mirroring) and a DB
Space Trigger.
When DB utilization reached the threshold for space expansion, TSM
With a SAN agent we have achieved 24.2 MB/sec on TDP for Exchange for an
information store of about 15.2GB.
My guess is your anti-virus software or network connection are a problem.
Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180
-Original Message-
From: chris rees
I tried the main page after flushing cache using IE and Netscape. No luck
either place.
Neal V. Adams
SLAC Computing Services -- Systems Group
phone: 650-926-2821
fax:650-926-3329
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
I can't get there either, same mesage as you. I have been able to till
today.
David B. Longo
System Administrator
Health First, Inc.
3300 Fiske Blvd.
Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH 321.434.5536
Pager 321.634.8230
Fax:321.434.5509
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/31/02 12:02PM
I have just figured out that Norton has a new version 7.61.939 that solves problems
with TSM and backups. There is a
check box in this new version that opened for backup box is available. Once we
upgraded our Norton and pushed out the
new client our backup issues were fixed.
Just wanted to
OK.. three separate accounts reporting the same problem == problem.
We've reported this to the folks who maintain www.tivoli.com, and
hopefully they'll straighten it out.
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew
We are running v4.2.2.12, on OS/390 v2.10.
We had this problem with an earlier version of TSM, but it seems, that it
is back!
I have several (hundred) backupset tapes, that have been deleted from the
database, but not from the volume history.
IBM has a PTF for v4.2.1 (UQ65585), but I am on
I've been reading various posts about TDP for Exchange being slow
but I can't believe its supposed to be as slow as I'm seeing. At the
moment I'm only getting approx 500Kb/sec at a time when no
other backups are running, i.e network and server and doing very little.
I've tried various
TSM Client 4.2.1
Novell 5.1
Let's say I want to backup a container in the NDS what is the correct
syntax?
I tried this
i nds:0=org.ou=suborg.*
It seemed to work as I got 13 files backed up.
I i tried to restore like this
restore nds:o=org.ou=suborg.cn=test
I get files doesn't exist. I
nomail
Just got this today in response to my PMR:
Just opened yesterday (10/30/2002) IC34860 and is not closed:
.
ERROR DESCRIPTION:
When using the Web Admin Gui with a version 4.2 or 5.1 server
displayed volume names can be shown with odd characters such
as %252F instead of the correct character(s).
We upgraded one of our clients from NT 4 to NT 2000 and then
converted to ntfs and expanded C drive. During all this
we took a couple of backups that I would like to now delete. What I
did is rename the node after each step. I am now trying
to delete those nodes but I am
Neil, I hope this helps. We had some similar issues with our exchange
servers and ended up doing this reg. Hack.
http://www.windows2000faq.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=14571
_
James S. Dabney
IRS/IBM
cell:512-789-6147
desk:512-460-8369
Chris, where is the TSM DB and LOG? I've seen very slow performance when
the TSM DB and LOG files were placed on some internal disk raid-5
arrays.
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Seay, Paul
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:35
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of
Alan Davenport
I can connect to that site if I put it in my browser however if I
use the Win2K FTP client or WS_FTP LE I cannot connect. I connect
instantly
however I never receive anything back from the site. i.e. no
Hi,
How can I expire all the backups and versions of a particular node which
is going to be retired shortly. We do not need to keep any of the backed up
data. I still have not deleted the node from TSM server.
Thanks
Raminder Braich
SAP/ORACLE Administrator
The Davey Tree Expert Company
Kent,
-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Sent: 10/31/2002 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: YAPC.
Yowie -
I bet you take the prize, indeed, for # of storage pools.
At the physics lab I organize by domain; I group clients into domains
either by owner, where I have remote
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of
Cinda Mullen
We are running TSM Server 4.1.6 on OS390 with a variety of
NT/UNIX/NetWare/Sun Solaris/etc. clients.
I know it's not rocket science but, I am having a hard time with my
inclexcl lists on the server side
Is there an easy way to get rid of this, or I am stuck with an
unload/load/audit?
ALEDSMB 10/31/2002 08:40:10 ANR0104E IMARINS(1544): Error 2 deleting row
from table
ALEDSMB Arch.Description.Objects.
ALEDSMB 10/31/2002 08:40:10 ANRD IMUTIL(3809): Primary row for
THis is common - started with the UNICODE filespace support - you can see
that each filespace now has a numeric id, as well as a name. You can add
the FSID parm to your delete command and it will work:
DELETE FILESPACE NODENAME number NAMETYPE=FSID
Or if you will do it through the admin GUI,
If I'm reading this correctly, only migrating my diskpool down to 10% is
hurting my DRM reclamation?
Are you saying that putting in a 10TB diskpool that never goes to
primary tape (only dr copies) would give me monstrously bad
reclamations? Our current main diskpool is 100gb on SSA and has
Hello all,
I have been experimenting with different disk layouts/volume sizes
for DB (on RS6000 M80, SSA) and want to accomplish two things with
this attempt : up the volume size to 4GB (from 2GB) and move from
raid-10 to JBOD and then mirror with TSM. Simple, I thought, set
up new volumes,
Tivoli is now up.. We apologizes for any inconvenience this may have
caused.
delete filespace nodename *
This will delete ALL backup and Archive data for all filespaces
for this node, including any offsite copytapes.
It starts a process that may run for many minutes depending on how
many files were backed up.
David Longo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/31/02 04:41PM
Hi,
How
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of
Braich, Raminder
How can I expire all the backups and versions of a particular node which
is going to be retired shortly. We do not need to keep any of the
backed up
data. I still have not deleted the node from TSM
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of
Gill, Geoffrey L.
Why would reclamation fail on an offsite volume that is out of the library
where it should be, in the Vault? Of course the storage media is
inaccessible!
10/30/02 22:21:42 ANR1081W Space reclamation
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