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For us, it is the beginning of the Sarbanes-Oxley overhaul. I ask those
same
questions to people all over my company and their response?
Well you (me) had better make
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There was another management requirement that all production servers be
backed up in full once per year and that snapshot be kept forever - there
is no reasoning with this, its one of those stupid mandates that applies to
Some considerations for long-term archive:
- Much of today's data, as it is used from day to day, exists in some
product-specific format. If you were to retrieve that data, say, 10 years
from now, would you have software capable of reading that data?
- Even if you archive the software, will
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Some considerations for long-term archive:
- Much of today's data, as it is used from day to day, exists in some
product-specific format. If you were to retrieve that data, say, 10
requried.
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For us, it is the beginning of the Sarbanes-Oxley overhaul. I ask those
same questions to people all over my company
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Some considerations for long-term archive:
- Much of today's data, as it is used from day to day, exists in some
product-specific format. If you were
I haven't read the SBO requirements, but from our internal auditors, it
looks
like we need to have a good business
best efforts to keep readable for whatever retention period we
publicize.
In working with older tape technology in storing archive tapes, we found
that 20% of the tapes were not
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I haven't read the SBO requirements, but from our internal auditors,
it
looks
like we need to have a good business
best efforts to keep readable for whatever retention period we
publicize.
In working with older
is one of the 'dumb idea' entries.
Good Luck -
Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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I
Thanks for your input Andy, yes these are all valid points.
The requirement that we have is to be able to go back to the time of a decision and
have available all pertinent information so that the same decision could be made
again. I don't know who the optimist was who wrote the requirement,
Allen,
Your post got me thinking as to just why I decided what I didand now I remember :)
There was another management requirement that all production servers be backed up in
full once per year and that snapshot be kept forever - there is no reasoning with
this, its one of those stupid
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Gordon,
I've though of doing this in the past, but, if we postulate a random daily
change rate, then the chances of a particular file being changed in any
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How would I find that out? We're not even doing monthly backups yet - just
trying to see the impending impact.
From what I've read here so far
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at 1% , 1-(0.99**30), or about .25
at 2%, 1-(0.98**30) , or about .45
at 3%, 1-(0.97**30), or about .60 (Please feel free to correct my maths if I'm
wrong - probability was never my strong point)
I think your math
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How would I find that out? We're not even doing monthly backups yet - just
trying to see the impending impact.
Count your incremental size over a series of days, and you'll have a measure
of the instantaneous change rate.
years now.
:-)
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I *love* that TSM is so flexible and I hate that I get to
agonize and debate
any changes to it for that very reason. We've been bitten
really hard in the
past due to poor planning, so I'm trying to plan for my next
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If you keep the tapes outside the system, what do you do when there is an
opportunity to change tape technology in 5 years?
How do you migrate that data to new tapes?
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We are implementing the following:
Monthly FULL backups, saved for 4 years for document retention purposes.
Backupsets are not viable, as a restore would be a pain. So it looks like
we're going to do this with archives. My idea is to create another storage
pool with it's own media, another
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personally I don't like to keep any archived data in an active TSM server
environment that has a retention value of more than 370 days
Can I ask why? This seems like an **awfully** short time...
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