Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2011-02-18 Thread Wolfgang J Moeller
A while ago, I had complained: Among the (currently) 1170 full ULTRIUM4C tapes around here, with a wide variety of data, I see anything between 526.1 G and 6.1 T. What I don't like: 20 % of the tapes are shown with a capacity of 800 MB, but only 3.5 % with 1.6 TB or more. This seemed to be

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-17 Thread Maurice van 't Loo
Hi Wolfgang, Just to be sure, isn't 800GB just because data is expired? See if you have reclaimable space on the tape. Regards, Maurice 2010/12/9 Wolfgang J Moeller moel...@gwdg.de Among the (currently) 1170 full ULTRIUM4C tapes around here, with a wide variety of data, I see anything

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-13 Thread Prather, Wanda
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB On Dec 9, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Scott McCambly wrote: ... I always assumed that the hardware compression mechanism would have something equivalent to CompressAlways=NO and detect already compressed data in its input buffer, however we

ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi, Drives are LTO4, devclass is ULTRIUM4C, but all Full volumes are between 800GB to 1TB. Is it normal? It seems TSM does not use compression. Mehdi

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Steven Langdale
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Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Mehdi Salehi
No compression before data gets to the drive. I will check with other kinds of data. Thank you.

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Richard Sims
On Dec 9, 2010, at 3:18 AM, Mehdi Salehi wrote: Hi, Drives are LTO4, devclass is ULTRIUM4C, but all Full volumes are between 800GB to 1TB. Is it normal? It seems TSM does not use compression. The physical capacity of Ultrium 4 is 800 GB, so compression is obviously happening. Some data is

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Wolfgang J Moeller
Among the (currently) 1170 full ULTRIUM4C tapes around here, with a wide variety of data, I see anything between 526.1 G and 6.1 T. What I don't like: 20 % of the tapes are shown with a capacity of 800 MB, but only 3.5 % with 1.6 TB or more. This seemed to be different with LTO3 - unfortunately

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Hans Christian Riksheim
If a LTO4 tape holds more than 800GB compression is on. At our place, file data only has a 1.1:1 compression while Oracle data and mail is 2.5:1. Overall it is 2:1. Hans Chr. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Mehdi Salehi ezzo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Drives are LTO4, devclass is ULTRIUM4C,

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Scott McCambly
This is related to a similar question I have been investigating on 3592 media:   Why would you ever get less than the native capacity of a tape? Does writing compressed data to tape with hardware compression enabled result in the data expanding? I always assumed that the hardware compression

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Prather, Wanda
] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:26 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB This is related to a similar question I have been investigating on 3592 media: Why would you ever get less than the native capacity of a tape? Does writing compressed data to tape

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Richard Sims
On Dec 9, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Scott McCambly wrote: ... I always assumed that the hardware compression mechanism would have something equivalent to CompressAlways=NO and detect already compressed data in its input buffer, however we backup a number of already compressed file formats and

Re: ULTRIUM4C but not 1.6TB

2010-12-09 Thread Roger Deschner
Another consideration is that tape and disk sales people cleverly use base 10, where 1K=1000, instead of what us geeks use where 1K=1024. So a 800GB native capacity LTO4 tape holds only 800,000,000,000 bytes, which is less than 800GB. You lose 2.4% right there in salesman's tricky fast talking.