Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Bill Smoldt
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Johnson, Milton wrote: I am not quite sure what you meant by with TSM you can use disk only for backups instead of onsite tape. I do not see any reason why you can not use FILE device types for both primary and copypool stg pools

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Johnson, Milton
Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark D. Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Johnson, Milton wrote: I am not quite sure what you meant by with TSM you

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Bill Smoldt
:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Johnson, Milton wrote: I am not quite sure what you meant by with TSM you can use disk only for backups instead of onsite tape. I do not see any reason why you can not use FILE device types for both primary

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Bill Smoldt
] On Behalf Of Johnson, Milton Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? A virtual tape library operates and connects just like a physical tape library in a SAN environment. The VTL, TSM server and your client

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Johnson, Milton
Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Smoldt Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Milton, After I wrote the last message, I noticed that FalconStor has certified TSM SAN clients with their product

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Curtis Stewart
] To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Johnson, Milton wrote: I am not quite sure what you meant by with TSM you can use disk only for backups instead of onsite tape. I do not see any reason why you can not use FILE device types for both

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Bill Smoldt
] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Bill, I am presently implementing the S2100-ES and S2100-DS VTLs by Sepaton which are also TSM certified. While at present I am using them as directly fiber attached devices to my TSM server, I chose a VTL solution over a DASD solution

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Eliza Lau
- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Smoldt Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Milton, After I wrote the last message, I noticed that FalconStor has certified TSM

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Johnson, Milton
: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eliza Lau Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Milton, Sepaton is going to ship us a S2100-DS for testing with no commitment to buy. Can you share

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Eliza Lau
AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Milton, Sepaton is going to ship us a S2100-DS for testing with no commitment to buy. Can you share with us your experience? Is it worth 3 times the cost of setting up our own DASD. Is it as easy

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Mark D. Rodriguez
-Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark D. Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Johnson, Milton wrote: I am not quite sure what you meant by with TSM

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Johnson, Milton
Their support is great. H. Milton Johnson -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eliza Lau Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Thanks Milton

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Johnson, Milton
, September 29, 2004 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? Milton, Do you realize that the TSM's LANFREE technology you are refering to is in fact Sanergy? TSM just gives you a limited use copy of Sanergy when yuo turn on the LANFREE stuff

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnson, Milton No idea about TSM's LANFREE being a limited use copy of Sanergy. It is not. My understanding was that the big difference was in the client code so that the meta data goes over the LAN to the TSM server's

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-29 Thread Johnson, Milton
This is my understanding SANergy and TSM's LANFREE. H. Milton Johnson -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? We have TSM 5.1.6.5 on win2k server. library is overland neo 4100 (60 tape capacity) with 2 X HP LTO-2 drives. We need another 12TB of backup capacity. We are considering getting something other that another tape

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-28 Thread Johnson, Milton
] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? If you read the thread D2D on AIX over the past week, it has lots of details on the pros and cons of using Disk only for backup. The answer

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? I am not quite sure what you meant by with TSM you can use disk only for backups instead of onsite tape. I do not see any reason why you can not use FILE device types for both primary and copypool stg pools. Of course if you actually want

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-28 Thread asr
== In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, BE VERY CAREFUL about the quality of disk you buy, if that is going to be your only copy of the data. DO NOT THINK that you can't lose a RAID array; I have seen it happen, twice. It depends TOTALLY on the quality

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-28 Thread Coats, Jack
I agree... I even had a vendor CE pull one disk, figure out it was not the right one, put it back in, then IMMEDIATELY pull the 'bad' disk. ... It took days to rebuild the array from backups, and the CE was not allowed back into the building, EVER! --- Per Wanda: [snip] DO NOT THINK that you

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-28 Thread Sal Mangiapane
Johnson, Milton wrote: I am not quite sure what you meant by with TSM you can use disk only for backups instead of onsite tape. I do not see any reason why you can not use FILE device types for both primary and copypool stg pools. Of course if you actually want to move a copy of the data

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-28 Thread Mark D. Rodriguez
Johnson, Milton wrote: I am not quite sure what you meant by with TSM you can use disk only for backups instead of onsite tape. I do not see any reason why you can not use FILE device types for both primary and copypool stg pools. Of course if you actually want to move a copy of the data offsite,

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-27 Thread Rushforth, Tim
You can backup the TSM DB to devclass of type file. -Original Message- From: Sal Mangiapane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? I was under the impression that the TSM

direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-24 Thread Alexander Lazarevich
We have TSM 5.1.6.5 on win2k server. library is overland neo 4100 (60 tape capacity) with 2 X HP LTO-2 drives. We need another 12TB of backup capacity. We are considering getting something other that another tape library. Couldn't we buy a couple of 6.4TB SCSI-SATA RAID DAS devices, and attach

Re: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library?

2004-09-24 Thread Coats, Jack
] Subject: direct attached disk (DAS) at a tape library? We have TSM 5.1.6.5 on win2k server. library is overland neo 4100 (60 tape capacity) with 2 X HP LTO-2 drives. We need another 12TB of backup capacity. We are considering getting something other that another tape library. Couldn't we buy a couple