Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-10 Thread David Wheeler
On Aug 9, 2004, at 2:44 PM, Kenny Gatdula wrote:
Have you looked at blosxom? At first glance, it seems to have 
everything you're looking for.
http://www.blosxom.com/
FWIW, the forthcoming Blosxom 3.0 will run under mod_perl. I'll help 
Rael to make sure of it.

Regards,
David


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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 06:13, Uwe Voelker wrote:
 

I would like to help.
What needs to be done? Is it more html or perl coding?
  

It's both.  What I had in mind was a file that we would add news items
to, probably in XML or some other format with a handy parser already
written.
How about POD or YAML for a simple format like that one ? Keeping the 
pool of possible
authors/reporters as high as possible.
+1 to stand clear of XXXml ;)
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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 06:13, Uwe Voelker wrote:
I would like to help.
What needs to be done? Is it more html or perl coding?

It's both.  What I had in mind was a file that we would add news items
to, probably in XML or some other format with a handy parser already
written.  Then we need to hook into the site generation script to read
this file, put the first 3 items on the home page if they are newer than
60 days, generate an archive page for the rest up to a year old, and
generate an RSS file for the latest 10 items.
Check out the site code by following the instructions here:
http://perl.apache.org/download/docs.html
May be it's the simplest to setup wiki? it can live in the checkout 
directory w/o having anything to do with the site generation. just an idea.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Uwe Voelker
 +1 to stand clear of XXXml ;)

But RSS is XML.

What types of news should be published?
- new page 'advocacy', see link ...
- new success story, see link ...
- new success story, full text

Who writes the news?


Bye, Uwe


PS: Can we use cpan modules (like XML::RSS)?


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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 05:25, Stas Bekman wrote:
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
How about POD or YAML for a simple format like that one ? Keeping the 
pool of possible
authors/reporters as high as possible.
+1 to stand clear of XXXml ;)

I can't imagine that more people know YAML than basic XML.  I know I've
avoided YAML so far, since it seems pretty pointless to me.  I don't
think POD or a wiki would provide enough structure for this use (we need
a headline, body, date, poster, etc.), although I suppose we could make
POD work by requiring a strict structure for news items.
One way to do it would be to simply write into a large RSS file by hand,
and let a script grab the last 10 of those for the real RSS feed and for
generating the pages.
Yuck. The front-end doesn't have to be anything format specific. Just 
have a simple form for content management. I really liked the Bricolage 
presentation at OSCon, it's so easy to create and manipulate data.

Can you please take a look at how jobs.perl.org works. I'm not sure what 
they are using behind the scenes, but it seems to work great.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson

Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:42, Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
How about:
Author: Philippe M. Chiasson
Title: How mod_perl saved my life!
Reference: http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html
Author Icon: http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif
Category: Success Stories
Abstract: Philippe was walking down the street one day and he was almost
  run over by a bus. He owes his life to the mod_perl book he had just
  purchased and tells us how it happened.
Story: bla bla bla bla
Shouldn't something like this be simple enough for our initial needs ?

Sure, with some small tweaks (add a date, remove separate story, remove
reference, change author icon to story image).  See http://php.net/ for
an idea of what I'm going for.
Glancing at the YAML docs, it looks like putting  between those
would make them parseable as records, so maybe we'll use that after all.
For instance :
$ cat story.yml
--- #YAML:1.0
Author: Philippe M. Chiasson
Title: How mod_perl saved my life!
Reference: http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html
Date: 2004-08-09
Story Image: http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif
Category: Success Stories
Abstract: 
  Philippe was walking down the street one day and he was almost
  run over by a bus. He owes his life to the mod_perl book he had just
  purchased and tells us how it happened.
Story: 
  bla bla bla bla
$ cat story.yml | ysh
$VAR1 = {
  'Story Image' = 'http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif',
  'Story' = 'bla bla bla bla
',
  'Date' = '2004-08-09',
  'Reference' = 'http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html',
  'Abstract' = 'Philippe was walking down the street one day and he was almost run over by a bus. He owes his life to the mod_perl book he had just purchased 
and tells us how it happened.
',
  'Title' = 'How mod_perl saved my life!',
  'Category' = 'Success Stories',
  'Author' = 'Philippe M. Chiasson'
};

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:59, Stas Bekman wrote:
That's the whole point. In order to make things simple, it shouldn't 
require commit access or anything list that. We could even use a 
simplified version of slashdot, so people can submit stories, people can 
comment on them, making it much more efficient and not creating any 
bottlenecks.

Yes, we could set up a blog for news.  It seems a bit redundant to have
comments when we already have the mailing list(s), so I would skip
that.  We also can't put things on the site without an approval process,
so it would need users and permissions.  If we are able to host web apps
on perl.apache.org and someone out there feels like playing with some
simple blog software (Blosxom? Bryar?), that would be fine with me.
Just throwing ideas, really. If the overhead of managing news is too 
big, it will be too easy to stop doing that. So I'm just wondering 
what's the simplest approach for more people being able to contibute w/o 
as little overhead as possible.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-08 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 06:13, Uwe Voelker wrote:
 I would like to help.
 
 What needs to be done? Is it more html or perl coding?

It's both.  What I had in mind was a file that we would add news items
to, probably in XML or some other format with a handy parser already
written.  Then we need to hook into the site generation script to read
this file, put the first 3 items on the home page if they are newer than
60 days, generate an archive page for the rest up to a year old, and
generate an RSS file for the latest 10 items.

Check out the site code by following the instructions here:
http://perl.apache.org/download/docs.html

- Perrin


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