Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Mike Hammett
hah, I know. I had to go in and turn some servers back on. The facility average maxed at 120. One of the NTT divisions lost two core routers because their cage crossed 130. I'm looking at a ring of 88 to 350 to 717 S. Wells to 427 S. LaSalle to 90. Well, if I can get the buy-in from upstairs.

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
Equinix has a really big hut in Chicago that was overheating. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 6:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PON question "a hut in Batavia" and that hut was overheating last summer, resulting in a

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Probably South Elgin too. Maybe North Aurora. They have a hut at the same Oswego water tower that I'm at too. I have glass in front of their Sycamore hut. They were the cheapest 100G wave into 350 E. Cermak, but I'm taking a hard look at getting my own dark in so I can light it with

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Mike Hammett
"a hut in Batavia" and that hut was overheating last summer, resulting in a bunch of rolling outages. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
IMO PON is nor more or less redundant/robust than old fashioned POTS. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 3:39 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PON question Mike Hammett kind of touched on what I was asking and why. I was told that Metronet near

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
Mike Hammett kind of touched on what I was asking and why. I was told that Metronet near me had a hut in Batavia that also served St. Charles, Geneva, West Chicago, etc. via PON. Also a company that built a middle mile / anchor institution fiber network with a BTOP grant 12+ years ago

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
PON is one port at your end and then goes through splitters that reduce light and add ports to end up at customer ONTs. 1:128 is pretty short range and high customer count - we could never do that in a rural plant (5-15 miles). Maybe 1:64 but that's about the limit. There is NO redundancy in

Re: [AFMUG] Nice call

2024-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
That's how I feel, too. Jim has a point, but then if that guy gets $25 the neighbor also wants $25. On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:10 PM wrote: > Not gonna do that. Our rates are far and equitable. > > > *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] > *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2024 3:36 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Always nice if you can ring all your remotes/cabinets. But you can home run the customers of feed many off of a single strand. We put splitters in splice cases as needed but I put in enough strands to do active ethernet if we want. Very flexible. If you cut down the the number of splits

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Mark Radabaugh
XGS-PON can theoretically run at 100km, though 60km is about the practical limit we have seen, With a active cabinet in the center and a 60km reach you can have an effective diameter of ~70 miles. With slack, routing, sag, etc. 50 miles is a possibility for cabinet spacing. In the rural

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Chris Fabien
PON is much more flexible mainly due to the much lower signal loss per distance. There are ways to deploy that almost exactly mirror an HFC network - There are strand mounted OLTs, you can "tap" the signal in exactly the same fashion as HFC taps where you have one active coax or fiber and the tap