Re: [AFMUG] LFP charging...

a special charger unless they are equipped with a built-in BMS. Many, if not most 12V LFP batteries have a built-in BMS. bp On 5/7/2024 10:43 AM, Robert wrote: While I have used, read about, studied, and debated about LFP batteries, one thing I cannot find an answer to: Is there a problem

Re: [AFMUG] LFP charging...

that are likely to have crap BMS that will fail. Stick with EG4 or other known good mfg. On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 10:52 AM Robert wrote: While I have used, read about, studied, and debated about LFP batteries, one thing I cannot find an answer to: Is there a problem with using

[AFMUG] LFP charging...

While I have used, read about, studied, and debated about LFP batteries, one thing I cannot find an answer to: Is there a problem with using a regular voltage supply set to 13.4 volts ( 90% ) charge to maintain a LFP battery for backup power use? Is there a need to buy a specialized battery

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me)

Also CPE observation time is 3 minutes... On 5/6/24 1:10 PM, Robert wrote: If you look at the orbits the density of the non-polar paths get higher at higher latitudes so when there were only 200-500 sats in orbit, you got a lot more sat "hits" looking farther north.   The pass off

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me)

oops I misremembered...   15 SECOND pass-off time... On 5/6/24 1:10 PM, Robert wrote: If you look at the orbits the density of the non-polar paths get higher at higher latitudes so when there were only 200-500 sats in orbit, you got a lot more sat "hits" looking farther north.   The

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me)

were in polar orbits. Google shows a bunch of criss cross inclined orbits. I don’t see how looking in the northern direction would help. *From:* Robert *Sent:* Monday, May 6, 2024 1:37 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me) Well, as I said, you have to take _everythin

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me)

*On Behalf Of *Robert *Sent:* Monday, May 6, 2024 12:59 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me) I've watched her for years and she has, occasionally, some good stuff.  But on the whole she has gotten so into promoting what she was paid for and in a few cases gotten caught

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me)

e but had not heard that before) I liked that she found a brand of booster that she says works well. *From:* Robert *Sent:* Monday, May 6, 2024 11:59 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me) I've watched her for years and she has, occasionally, some good stuff.  But on

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me)

I've watched her for years and she has, occasionally, some good stuff.  But on the whole she has gotten so into promoting what she was paid for and in a few cases gotten caught promoting bad products.  She major league jumped on board a cell internet reseller and promoted a really dishonest

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

My cherry was broken by an IBM 370 ( a 360 that had been hand wired to virtual memory in 73 ) programming in Fortran. We also rubbed sticks together to make fire... On 5/3/24 10:51, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: First computer I actually programmed was an altair 8080 programmed with the front

Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats....

Office 435-830-4306 Cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench.pro www.terabitnetworks.com -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 11:06 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats Didn't see you in the vid, was hoping you would be... On 5/1/24 09:36

Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats....

- From: Robert Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:36 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Fab Rats Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport tug and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching equipment" ( Fab Rats is in Utah ) and

Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats....

Starts at 5:03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrt78oczcwo On 5/1/24 8:36 AM, Robert wrote: Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport tug and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching equipment" ( Fab Rats is in Utah ) and I glimpse a bit of

[AFMUG] Fab Rats....

Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport tug and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching equipment" ( Fab Rats is in Utah ) and I glimpse a bit of what looks like the MTC logo and sure enough MTC is on youtube... -- AF mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] OT: East Utah fun

My old H.S. chemistry professor ( Dr. Welch ) kept a bottle of hydrofluoric acid under his desk in a wax bottle of unknown quality.  That was an interesting removal... On 4/29/24 8:59 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Pretty much in the middle of Salt Lake City. The guy the lived there (had died

Re: [AFMUG] OT: East Utah fun

"Controlled Explosion"   Hopefully _after_ having been removed from the house On 4/29/24 7:13 AM, Bill Prince wrote: FROM: News of the Weird Boom! In Holladay, Utah, authorities were summoned to a home on April 23 to advise a homeowner on how to dispose of “a lot” of explosives,

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Govt funded fiber - Utopia

In a lot of the US fire stations aren't getting staffed because the firefighters are totally keeping the jobs staffed at levels that require massive overtime at 2x pay to spike their income for the purpose of maximizing retirement pay. And that's not a California specialty.   Happening in NV

Re: [AFMUG] DC power supplies in parallel

This is what Tesla is recommending for the LFP based model 3 and model Y versions.   100% charge.  VS the 80% for the other chemistries.   Tesla is also going more in on LFP solutions and the latest investor presentation said their proprietary model "breakthrough" battery is no longer an

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Govt funded fiber - Utopia

Kinda makes you wonder what the actual return is on the MASSIVE $$ that the feds are dumping into broadband providers?   Anyone want to fill in actual numbers? On 4/26/24 3:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Article:

Re: [AFMUG] now that's a big antenna

Patrick Warburton On 4/21/24 1:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: This? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0205873/ On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 1:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: “The Dish” Great factual comedy that blends Apollo 11 and antennas. *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Sunday, April

Re: [AFMUG] LiFePO4 question again

LifePowers have a BMS.   But most people power them with a LFP designed charger to get the power into them much faster than a regular power supply. On 4/5/24 12:13 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: You will need a BMS unless the battery has one built in.  If it does, a regular telco rectifier

Re: [AFMUG] OT 2038 Linux

i.e. you are raising your SEP field... On 2/12/24 11:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’m not President or a Senator or Supreme Court Justice, so in 2038 I plan to be retired or dead.  It will be somebody else’s problem. *From:*AF *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF *Sent:* Monday, February 12,

Re: [AFMUG] compensation for employees

The last sentence is a key...    Think out of the box how to help out with that and you have a really good incentive for your company over others besides straight cash... On 1/29/24 8:55 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: We do have a fully funded health plan.  We make them wait 6 months for

Re: [AFMUG] compensation for employees

would prefer that.  We only have 25 employees and they are mostly welders etc.  I wonder if any of them even have an IRA. *From:* Robert *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2024 7:53 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] compensation for employees Fully fund IRAs? On 1/28/24 5:18 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] compensation for employees

Fully fund IRAs? On 1/28/24 5:18 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Thanks Ken, No stock options.  I am slowly giving the company to a couple sons that are putting in the sweat equity.  Still not sure about production based bonuses.  Should everyone get the same amount? *From:* Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] -48V kicking the dead horse

nks Brough *From:* AF on behalf of Robert *Sent:* Monday, January 8, 2024 10:32 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] -48V kicking the dead horse But what about Low voltage cable... Is smooth hot or cold or ridged hot or cold

Re: [AFMUG] -48V kicking the dead horse

But what about Low voltage cable...  Is smooth hot or cold or ridged hot or cold?  So many choices... LOL.. On 1/8/24 9:39 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: I concur with the wire color problem. * My current employer pays big bucks to a low voltage guy who wires up our sites. His work is

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

That is my understanding too.  But one point I would make is that the discharge from the BMS is pretty low compared to the size of the batteries we are talking about.   I was told by a techy at signature solar that for a rack mount battery to go into storage, it should be charged between 1/2

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

.    With Solar assistant you can look into the values for each cell in each battery to know what's going on with your server rack batteries. On 1/4/24 3:49 PM, Robert wrote: But LFP batteries all have BMS control with built in LVD.   Most LFP batteries BMS will need a "kick-start" if they g

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

Some chargers will behave... On 1/4/24 3:34 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Chargers aren't designed to have a linear load (wisp) and will misbehave On Thu, Jan 4, 2024, 3:12 PM Robert wrote: I will look when I get back in the office, but it was similar to this one: https

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

But LFP batteries all have BMS control with built in LVD.   Most LFP batteries BMS will need a "kick-start" if they go into LVD.   The charger I shared earlier has a LVD kick mode for the first charging mode. On 1/4/24 1:33 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: The worst case scenario is when the

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

Not all lithium is the same... Tesla has careful temperature controls to manage their packs. And are subject to thermal runaway. LFP batteries ( I can't say completely ) are not so subject to thermal runaway. Running them inside a house is much safer than any other Lithium chemistry. I

Re: [AFMUG] RedHawk-P250i-Solid-Oxide-Fuel-Cells-GEN4-WEB.pdf

Cha-ching...   Wonder what price the 3Khr stack replacement is...? On 12/11/23 8:23 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: Any ideas on pricing? Jim Bouse Owner Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 j...@brazoswifi.com *From:*AF *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Modbus

There are modbus libraries in at least "C" to read devices...  I read the modbus info from our morningstar controllers... On 10/26/23 1:08 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Yes, and no. The modbus protocol defines how to move data between two devices.  However, the contents of the 

Re: [AFMUG] Got paid

Did you pull the comments and review? On 10/24/23 11:53, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: A prime contractor has owed me about $15K for 6 months.  Totally dogging me. They showed up in my FB feed crowing about a big job they had just completed.  So I started making snarky comments on their posts.  I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home solar

For off-grid or grid tied, the new eg4 18K and 13Kw battery ( heated ) for 10K is probably the first of what I consider is 4th generation solar systems.  First system that is truly integrated, turn key solar.  No piece of this, piece of that, this special settings, that special firmware.  

Re: [AFMUG] who caves first? charter? disney?

Seems like it will be a reason to increase basic internet rates... a lot... On 9/6/23 7:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: Talking heads are making it out to be a big deal.  They'll both lose a lot of money.  Charter may not survive pay tv may not survive my take?  per 1,000 facebook posts

Re: [AFMUG] 120v UPS with Li-ion or LiPoFe batteries - some questions

Lead acid is still the go to for combustion vehicles and low temperatures without grid to heat.  That might change but for now they is still plenty of market.   That said, when the vendors for LFP decide to change the BMSs to do what is needed and the lower temp chemistries are worked out,

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

hard cut-off where it won't work or will wreck the batteries sort of thing, as far as I can tell, but the charging temperature is. On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:02 PM Robert Andrews wrote: For off grid, it also has to have heaters.  Not being able to charge is just as crippling if your site

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

For off grid, it also has to have heaters. Not being able to charge is just as crippling if your site never gets above freezing long enough to charge the batteries in the winter. Getting the batteries heated JUST off the solar output ( not off of grid power ) is tricky and I am not

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

I just wish Will Prowse would start doing heater reviews on LFP batteries, but he's in Vegas and that's the last thing on his mind. But it's critical for everyone north of Lat 36 On 8/17/23 13:07, TJ Trout wrote: Don't buy 12v lifepo4 batteries for series use, it's much better to buy a

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

We love Morningstar 60mppt for lower end solar, ethernet ( no security ) complete configuration available and priced lower than most other stuff for a serious amount of solar.   For bigger the 600Volt is available, for bigger than that the signature solar controllers will do about anything you

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

.   This was at sites with both panels types side by side... On 8/16/23 4:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I presume they are more expensive?  Is the watts per square foot the same? -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:00 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

We are at 39 _but_ the snowfall this winter was epic.   Rivaling Chucks...  We aren't on tippytops but with high panel angles and decent breaks in the coverage we only had to clear panels out a few times with the tracked ranger...  Still got stuck a few times requiring one rescue aid   We

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

think I would mount a set of extra panels upside down over a white reflecting surface. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 1:56 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question When not buried in a historic snow load or positioned

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

When not buried in a historic snow load or positioned correctly so that the snow falls off the panels and a 200 foot cliff... On 8/16/23 12:46, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Using my historical rules of thumb for off grid, snowed in mountain top location for a 20 watt load I would do the

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

I read about one of those that is already pre-packaged in a lead coffin.  It does have a bad history with 3 kills and about 1/2 dozen sickened...   You have to provide the deuce and 1/2 with the shielded drivers compartment. On 8/15/23 4:52 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I got some old

Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?

https://www.reddit.com/r/submarines/comments/gy1wc6/what_exactly_does_happen_when_a_submarine_goes/ On 6/22/23 9:30 PM, Robert wrote: You actually burn from the air compressing before you get squished by the water.. On 6/22/23 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Carbon fiber is not the same

Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?

You actually burn from the air compressing before you get squished by the water.. On 6/22/23 10:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Carbon fiber is not the same as fiberglass. I believe they pressure tested the vessel to ~~ 6,200 PSI (roughly 14,000' depth). That said, if something goes wrong at that

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locator Repair

We stand behind our product to take your order for a new one... On 6/9/23 10:48 AM, Nate Burke wrote: Amprobe is part of Fluke.  Fluke has ended all support/repair for this Amprobe product in 2021.  When I called into the Amprobe/fluke repair line, the lady was knowledgeable, but since support

Re: [AFMUG] asus routers

had one go down yesterday On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 12:03 PM Robert wrote: If you have customers running asus..   Shit is hitting the wall. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- Thank

[AFMUG] asus routers

If you have customers running asus.. Shit is hitting the wall. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Yealink "Forbidden"

kef> *From:* AF on behalf of Robert *Sent:* Thursday, May 4, 2023 6:58:30 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yealink "Forbidden" Funny, this kinda sounds like what's happening with Starlink and their connections to

Re: [AFMUG] Yealink "Forbidden"

Funny, this kinda sounds like what's happening with Starlink and their connections to zoom, but those seem to be fixed by going to a different set of dns servers ( that is what the jungle drums are drumming ) On 5/4/23 1:23 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: So this actually _was_ my issue. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

Somewhere recently I got sent a picture of a ancient hand crushing vice that was used by the church to correct blasphemers.  Sounds like you need to add that to your kit... On 4/21/23 8:37 AM, Steve Jones wrote: obviously you dont want your kids playing near the punji traps or claymores. but

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

Off grid homes are easy now with LFP batteries, it would just be the hassle of wiring it, specially as they probably don't use sheet rock interior walls.   So you are probably doing conduit all around the outside walls.   But they probably all have basements that you could also wire through.

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

One of my childhood favorites, because Susan Clark... Colossus: The Forbin Project On 4/19/23 3:18 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I remember seeing that at the drive in.  Double feature with Andromeda Strain. “This is the voice of Colossus” AI hooked with an AI in Russia... *From:* Robert

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

How about the original Colossus? On 4/19/23 1:55 PM, James Howard wrote: well my Atari 2600 can't do it in a year *From*: "Chuck McCown via AF" *Sent*: 4/19/23 1:06 PM *To*: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" *Cc*:

Re: [AFMUG] Short Term Employee

Those are ok if they are done to OSHA standards... On 4/10/23 7:27 AM, Bill Prince wrote: ...nor let him see the piles of bodies in the landfill. bp On 4/10/2023 6:53 AM, Steve Jones wrote: He is calling OSHA, but that shouldnt be a concern, you just hit the osha guy with a pipe and put him

Re: [AFMUG] Short Term Employee

Document his work, and I wish you have videoed some of it to have evidence.  I get the feeling he's gonna bite..   At least have a discussion of his work with those, besides you or your family, who worked with him and can provide backup to your experiences... On 4/8/23 12:47 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

sad. People who still support Donald are bullies and hate America at this point. On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchie! You called me the C word... *From:* Robert *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2

Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

:* Robert *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 3:32 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun exactly this...  What I have learned is there is such a thing as a good cult, which is what I consider the Mormon church to be. They have a few extreme points of view

Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

, Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchie! You called me the C word... *From:* Robert *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 3:32 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun exactly this...  What I have learned is there is such a thing

Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

exactly this...  What I have learned is there is such a thing as a good cult, which is what I consider the Mormon church to be.  They have a few extreme points of view but on the whole they treat everyone ( now including other races ) reasonably...   And they care about kids and back it up.

Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

of the employees who also got a lot of email, was injured and was out for like 3 months.  Her inbox got too full with unread mail and brought down the entire email system. On 3/12/23 14:52, Robert Andrews wrote: Who remembers a famous USENET author that had: A host is a host from coast to coast (what

Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

Who remembers a famous USENET author that had: A host is a host from coast to coast (what was the next line?) As part of their signature.. Not the copycats, but the original... On 3/12/23 13:13, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Back in the day, just sniffing the ethernet would get you all the

Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

The original Usenet email had the actual path to a major server (ATT, UCB, UCSB, etc... ) in the beginning every email address, pretty hard not to know the path of the users back then... On 3/12/23 13:01, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Internet email isn't anonymous,  never was.  Even

Re: [AFMUG] RF Cage for WIFI

Why red force rooms had double doors that would have shredded said dollar bill.. On 2/28/23 6:47 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: A microwave probably fits through the seam in your lead lined case.  A was talking once with an IBM guy who worked in some kind of RF shielded room.  He said if he wanted

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

One of the best things I heard out of Elon Musk ox, is that technology is expensive and the higher level the tech the more expensive it is.   To maintain, to improve, to fix, to buy... On 2/16/23 8:06 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Weldong is one of those "entry level" gigs that comes at a great cost

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW

He gets arrested and killed by the police for being in the good neighborhood...   ( I said it before Steve did ) On 2/7/23 12:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What about a black male teen in a good neighborhood? On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 3:07 PM Carl Peterson wrote: Josh - has a lot more to do

Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

Luthman *Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2023 1:18 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much Watch the video. On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 2:52 PM Robert Andrews wrote: two crumple zones hitting each other vs one crumple zone hitting a wall, makes

Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

g lane. Fun stuff. *From:* AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Robert *Sent:* Friday, February 03, 2023 10:42 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much Same, ca

Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

Same, california name for them.   Always remembered that name from the movie "Volcano" On 2/3/23 5:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks the same as Jersey barriers? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Robert wrote:  surplus K rail, if you think they might ma

Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

surplus K rail, if you think they might make it over, double it up... https://www.eiffeltrading.com/marketplace/traffic-barrier/barrier-wall/k-rail-barrier-wall On 2/3/23 9:19 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Yeah, sonotube filled with a rebar cage.  Make a picket fence of them.  Cheaper than

Re: [AFMUG] IP Camera Reccomendations.

I didn't see anything like a complete guide to non-compliant cameras, it's just a page of optiview cameras... On 2/2/23 09:58, Jan-GAMs wrote: Here is a list of non-compliant: https://optiviewusa.com/articles/complete-guide-to-ndaa-compliant-surveillance-systems/ On 2/2/23 09:36, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] IP Camera Reccomendations.

I don't think this is banned, but I run them secured from internet access https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZFYMXPM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1 On 2/1/23 3:54 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Looking for some additional standards-based IP cameras to add to my

Re: [AFMUG] beet juice

What about RV antifreeze?  Non-toxic... On 1/25/23 5:11 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Beet juice was a failed experiment too.  When it is good and cold it plugs up nozzles.  The stuff I tried was liquid. Propylene Glycol is best and non toxic.  They put it in toothpaste. *From:* Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz

R-4808N?   There are a boatload of R areas out there.  R-4808N is the golden ticket... On 1/16/23 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Pretty sure this whole are Bill and Robert are talking about can be called Area 51.  I know that is not technically correct as they have had other area numbers

Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz

back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car."  Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 A

Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz

Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood,

Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz

Went to one where I was black masked and everywhere was black curtains except on the desk where the computer I was working on sat. Rolm Mil-Spec in the 80's On 1/16/23 09:43, Larry Smith wrote: LOL, been to a few of those. Key point to remember is nowhere is now here also. -- AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mystery Antennas on SLC peaks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium_Network On 1/14/23 8:31 AM, Bill Prince wrote: It’s a mystery Public lands officials in Salt Lake City are trying to solve a mystery: Who is placing antennae with solar panels on public property? KSL-TV reported on Jan. 4 that a few of the devices were

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor 24V PSU cabinet with batteries?

"request a quote"...  First red flag... On 11/30/22 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: https://www.enersys.com/en/products/batteries/cyclon/cyclon/ *From:* Chuck McCown via AF *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:24 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Cc:* Chuck McCown *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] No joke, its real!!! ;-)

I can 100% confirm that it's not real on _my_ computer.. On 11/23/22 9:09 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: file:///C:/Users/chuck/Downloads/79e6f64a8466594c70a80f3932e455.pdf -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

This would be why they started making bi-facial solar panels, reflected ground illumination increases the panel output, according to some ads, as much as 20%... (YMMV) On 11/11/22 5:25 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I never discovered any solution other than the foam.  You can point a

Re: [AFMUG] OT youtube

He fired everyone on the algorithm teams... On 11/6/22 3:22 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: One more thing..   if there is one thing musk's twitter acquisition accomplishes, I hope that it is that the algorithm is adjusted such that it is far harder to end up in your own personal

Re: [AFMUG] OT weddings

Congratulations!  Sounds like good decisions all around... On 10/23/22 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Yesterday, my youngest daughter had a wedding reception. They got married a year ago, but due to Covid they decided to not try a reception. We had 8 kids, 7 surviving to adulthood, 5

Re: [AFMUG] OT Political

without having some brains. *From:* Robert *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2022 10:16 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Political If "Mad Dog" was convinced enough to write about him, and you don't believe him, you are indoctrinated... On 10/11/22 8:26 AM, Chuck Macenski wrot

Re: [AFMUG] OT Political

Political Zero loyalty is a primary feature of Trump.  He would toss his mother under the bus.  I have heard AOC say some anti demo stuff.  Not much. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 10, 2022, at 9:19 PM, Robert wrote:  the way that the trump cult vilifies any other

Re: [AFMUG] OT: about time

hat should ha e been changed decades ago keeps being pocketed as a hail mary for a losing election team On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 9:05 PM Robert wrote: Brother of a friend got sentenced for simple possession, went to the big house and raped

Re: [AFMUG] OT: about time

Brother of a friend got sentenced for simple possession, went to the big house and raped by white supremists.. joined them to keep from getting killed, got aids and then used as a pawn by same WS and convicted of threatening the governor..  So wrong on so many levels... On 10/6/22 5:29 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF Pulling my hair out

Make sure you haven't duplicated your router id. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 1:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OSPF Pulling my hair out I have a site with a RB4011 connected via an old M5 Powerbridge,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

Vger On 8/31/22 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: https://youtu.be/kHUZCVl28lg *From:* Daniel Pautz via AF *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2022 3:51 PM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' *Cc:* Daniel Pautz *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager I thought the star trek one was Pioneer 1?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

://www.universetoday.com/142802/nasa-has-figured-out-how-to-extend-the-lives-of-the-voyagers-even-longer/ They launched making 470 watts and down to a whopping 270 watts in 2011 *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Robert *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2022 11:27 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager baby

Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

These RTGs are an issue for future probes due to nobody making the Pu-238 available...  Besides the change in position of launching those kind of risks..   I believe a russian one came down in Canada and created quite the mess... On 8/31/22 10:31 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: oyager 1 has

Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

Yup, at Rolm the core memory team was all women...  finer touch. On 8/31/22 10:29 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I remember seeing movies when I was a kid of women sewing these things by hand. *From:* Robert *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2022 11:24 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re

Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

I have to think the frequencies chosen probably give a pretty low background noise On 8/31/22 10:25 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: 3.2.2.4 Telemetry Modulation. The telemetry comes to the telemetry modulation unit (TMU) separately as a “low-rate” channel and a “high-rate” channel. Low

Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

baby nuke=thermal generator, pu based..? On 8/31/22 10:23 AM, Daniel Pautz via AF wrote: Though these two guys didn’t have solar panels,  good old baby nuke on board. *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2022 11:13 AM *To:* dmmoff...@gmail.com;

Re: [AFMUG] OT Voyager

Almost certainly using core memory, not subject to cosmic ray damage.  Used to have it on Rolm Mil-Spec computers.   Turn off system, turn it back on, right where it was before... On 8/31/22 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I was taught, many years ago, that minority (might have been

Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

get a tempest On 8/16/22 12:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote: We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility room where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was kind of central to the main part of

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