I've never heard of it used for knowledge representation. Can you explain
what's the deal?
IMO we should first delineate the AGI problem in a conventional framework
and then try to find out where is the computational bottleneck. And then
focus our innovation on that particular area, rather
some extra points in support of C++:
- Developer quality; It seems to take about 5 years to get good at
C++. There's plenty of carbon-copy Java/PHP/.NET programmers being
churned out but they'll need some time to mature into decent
developers, with a good portion choosing attrition into BAs etc
Kevin Osborne wrote:
some extra points in support of C++:
- Developer quality [...]
- Breadth of library support. [...]
- Stability. [...]
All fine and good several years from now, when mission-critical,
robust AGI programs will be running the world in Joint Stewardship
of Earth with us
-very hard to write code that writes code compared to LISP, Ruby etc
-very hard to safely run code i think. in java you have security things
to execute code in safe sandboxes, in C++ any array can just run outside
its bounds
-in LISP any ruby and the likes, you can just execute 1 line of code
On 3/26/07, rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-very hard to write code that writes code compared to LISP, Ruby etc
-very hard to safely run code i think. in java you have security things
to execute code in safe sandboxes, in C++ any array can just run outside
its bounds
But for AGI
On 3/25/07, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know if the term glocal (meaning global/local) has
previously been used in the context of
AI knowledge representation?
While not recognized as a formal term of knowledge representation,
glocal has strong connotations of think
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when someone gets a clue about what they are trying to build, and
Yes, Google reveals that the term glocal has been used a few times
in the context of social activism.
I am writing a conference paper on knowledge representation and am
thinking of introducing it as a buzzword for the type of mixed global/local
knowledge rep used in Novamente, which I also
On 3/26/07, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, Google reveals that the term glocal has been used a few times
in the context of social activism.
While popularized by social activists, particularly with regard to
ecological concerns, the fairly deep principle I had in mind goes
somewhat
David Clark writes:
Everyone on this list is quite different.
It would be interesting to see what basic interests and views the members of
this list hold. For a few people, published works answer this pretty
clearly but that's not true for most list members.
I'll start.
I'm a
On 3/26/07, DEREK ZAHN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Clark writes:
Everyone on this list is quite different.
It would be interesting to see what basic interests and views the members of
this list hold. For a few people, published works answer this pretty
clearly but that's not true for most
When I was at Cycorp, we used Allegro for program development and a Lisp-to-C
translator and runtime of Cycorp's design for production. When containing
millions of knowledge store objects, Allegro is less space efficient than the
Cycorp C runtime. For example, Allegro uses two fullwords to
Derek, great idea. Here's my story/interest
Ever since a kid (and playing with the very first computers) I have
been fascinated intrigued by the concept of AGI (tho not necessarily
by that name). I've had a number of different career paths and many
different hobbies but my largely philosophical
DEREK ZAHN wrote:
It would be interesting to see what basic interests and views the
members of this list hold. For a few people, published works answer
this pretty clearly but that's not true for most list members.
Sounds like a good idea.
I am a professional, self-funded researcher and
The project was founded officially in 2001 but for much of the time
between 2001 and 2004 there was NOBODY working on it full time. All
of us founders had day jobs, either actual jobs or AI consulting
jobs, needed to pay the bills.
For the last couple years there were 2-3 people working
Hi all,
As there has been a lot of discussion of the Novamente AI system on this
list,
it seems apropos to announce here that Novamente LLC has decided upon a
significant shift in business direction/approach.
If you're curious a pertinent company blog entry is here:
It would be interesting to see what basic interests and views the members of
this list hold. For a few people, published works answer this pretty
clearly but that's not true for most list members.
Hi,
I'm a software and information guy. I've lived, eaten, and breathed software
and
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From: DEREK ZAHN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: [agi] AGI interests
It would be interesting to see what basic interests and views the members
of
this list hold. For a few people, published works answer this
David Clark writes:
Everyone on this list is quite different.
It would be interesting to see what basic interests and views the members
of
this list hold. For a few people, published works answer this pretty
clearly but that's not true for most list members.
Hi. Right now i'm a freshman
I don't believe AI in the sense of a self-willed mind is going to happen;
fortunately, it doesn't need to. The two problems I want to help solve are
the global loss of fifty million lives a year, and the difficulty in living
in the 99.999...999% of the universe that isn't Earth. Each of these is
Creating compelling virtual characters for games or online worlds sounds
like a nice direction to go down, which fits well with the overall aims of
producing an AGI. Although most of my own focus is in producing real world
intelligent entities in the form of robotics I've long thought, ever
Hi,
- what is the REAL reason highly talented AGI research groups keep
pushing their deadlines back. E.g. Ben's announced imminent breakthrus
several times ... the one fact he mentioned a few years back that made
sense is the huge parameter space/degrees of freedom (you have at
least 5 to 10
Derek:
I too agree that this is a good idea to exchange information.
For myself, I am a Computer Scientist but before I became a CS, I was a
PsychoBiologist so I have a good foundation in both worlds. Also, this
has led me to be a Reverse Brain Engineer and a Connectionist. I have
been working
Like Elihu, I'm also a lurker on this list. I'm almost finished undergrad
at UVa in Music and Economics: My main interest is the blossoming
Neo-Luddite a cappella movement. After I graduate, I will enter that sphere
at an audio engineer, although hopefully I will continue work as a
musicologist
Since everyone else is doing it . . . .
My interests are
a.. Coordinated Knowledge-Base/World-Model Building and
b.. Friendliness/Morality/Goal Development Optimization
Fundamentally, this means developing
a.. Knowledge-harvesting agents
b..
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