R. Schwall set up the filter on the incoming emails, so that it is triggered
by the sender. The filter could be changed so that it allows all messages
with [agi] in the subject through, but it is not something that the list
owner or any of us can do, just R. Schwall. The message doesn't luckily
I hardly think that's matter given that it's a truly a Singularity-class
AI.
Do you sit around calculating which of your grandparents deserves the most
credit for bringing you into being? No, you take care of them as they
need
it.
Thank you too, Josh -- maybe I was too cynical in thinking
A successful AI could do a superior job of dividing up the credit from
available historical records. (Anyone who doesn't spot this is not
thinking recursively.)
Yay! Thank you!
( . . . and to think that last night I decided to give up on the topic. But
don't worry, I'll still punt on it.
YKY,
I think that I'm going to take this opportunity to give up on this
conversation for the following reasons:
Come on, there're no obvious reasons for this complex issue.
I have to disagree. There *ARE* certain things that really should be obvious
if you get it.
To put it another
It's a white-list. Click on the button and it will stop harassing you.
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From: David Orban
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [agi] META: spam? ZONEALARM CHALLENGE
R. Schwall set up the filter on the incoming
If you're not proposing a better scheme for collaboration, and you
criticize my scheme in a non-constructive way, then effectively you're just
saying that you're not interested in collaborating at all. And that's
kind of sad, given that we're still so far from AGI.
YKY, I think there are two
To organize average people to work together you have to give rewards.
Finally, I really, *really* don't believe this either (unless you want
to insist that the satisfaction of a challenge met or a job well done -- or
the warm fuzzy that you get when you help someone -- are rewards). You
don't
http://www.gmu.edu/thinklearn/decade-mind-videos.html
I particularly recommend
Giulio Tononi, PhD, MD
Consciousness and the Brain
Dharmendra Modha, PhD
Towards Engineering the Mind by Reverse Engineering the Brain
and, even though I disliked the first 15 minutes . . . .
Vernon Smith, PhD,
Whihc compiler did you use for Human OS V1.0?
Didnt realize we had a CPP compiler out alreadyh
Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt,
Here is a program that feels pain.
I got the logic, but no pain when processing the code in my mind.
Maybe you should mention in the pain.cpp
Overall measures are per-module as well, so a basic DB-access module would only
get 1% to distrubute to all its lines of code, as it has little originiailty
and is well known code.
Samantha Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No LOC based credit please. That
measure is totally bogus. Ten lines
9. a particular AGI theoryThat is, one that convinces me it's on the right
track.
Now that you have run this poll, what did you learn from the responses and how
are you using this information in your effort?
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--- James Ratcliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whihc compiler did you use for Human OS V1.0?
Didnt realize we had a CPP compiler out alreadyh
The purpose of my little pain-feeling program is to point out some of the
difficulties in applying ethics-for-humans to machines. The program has
On 6/13/07, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If yes, then how do you define pain in a machine?
A pain in a machine is the state in the machine that a person
empathizing with the machine would avoid putting the machine into,
other things being equal (that is, when there is no higher goal
On 6/13/07, Lukasz Stafiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/13/07, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If yes, then how do you define pain in a machine?
A pain in a machine is the state in the machine that a person
empathizing with the machine would avoid putting the machine into,
other
Mark,
VNA..can simulate *any* substrate.
I don't see any good reason for assuming that it would be anything
more than a zombie.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/
unless you believe that there is some other magic involved
I would not call it magic, but we might have to look beyond
Even if YKY was to succeed in coming up with a new hybrid organizational
structure, which could likely happen as there are definitely opportunities
for innovation judging by existing structures, there still needs to be the
traditional open source project that everybody and his brother(or sister)
--- Lukasz Stafiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/13/07, Lukasz Stafiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/13/07, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If yes, then how do you define pain in a machine?
A pain in a machine is the state in the machine that a person
empathizing with
On 6/14/07, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would avoid deleting all the files on my hard disk, but it has nothing to do
with pain or empathy.
Let us separate the questions of pain and ethics. There are two independent
questions.
1. What mental or computational states correspond to
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