Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/7/21 John LaMuth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Announcing the recently issued U.S. patent concerning ethical artificial intelligence titled: Inductive Inference Affective Language Analyzer Simulating AI. This just show what a farce the US patent system has become.

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Tintner
Perhaps like Bob, I'm not sure whether this isn't a leg-pull. But, to take it seriously, how do you propose to give your robot free will - especially considering that the vast majority of AI/AGI-ers roboticists are still committed to an algorithmic paradigm which both excludes free will and

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread BillK
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: This is a real patent, unfortunately... http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50d=PALLRefSrch=yesQuery=PN%2F6587846 But I think it will expire before anyone has the

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/7/21 Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is a real patent, unfortunately... http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50d=PALLRefSrch=yesQuery=PN%2F6587846 But I think it will expire before anyone has the technology

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Tintner
BillK: I prefer Warren Ellis's angry, profane Three Laws of Robotics. (linked from BoingBoing) http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5426 Actually, while I take Ellis' point as in 1...what are you thinking? Ooh, I must protect the bag of meat at all costs because I couldn't possibly plug in the

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Seems like this is getting to be a regualr event on the AGI, or other singularity-related lists: about once a year or so some crackpot announces that they have filed a patent for a complete thinking machine, or a robot-ethics system or some other garbage. The other crackpot announcement we

Re: [agi] Computing's coming Theory of Everything

2008-07-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Steve, Principal component analysis is not new, it has a long history, and so far it is a very long way from being the basis for a complete AGI, let alone a theory of everything in computer science. Is there any concrete reason to believe that this particular PCA paper is doing something

Re: [agi] Computing's coming Theory of Everything

2008-07-21 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Principal component analysis is not new, it has a long history, and so far it is a very long way from being the basis for a complete AGI, let alone a theory of everything in computer science. Is there any

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2008-07-21 Thread John G. Rose
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