Re: [agi] Has anyone read On Intelligence

2007-02-22 Thread Kingma, D.P.
Dear Aki Iskandar My 2 cents. I haven't read the book On Intelligence, but from the book flowed a proof-of-concept program which I analyzed thoroughly. I read the source of the program, analyzed the Dileep George and Hawkin's papers etc. The idea of the proof-of-concept is basically a

Re: [agi] Has anyone read On Intelligence

2007-02-22 Thread Richard Loosemore
Eric, I am not surprised that he said nothing: you make statements about COLT that are simply not accepted by people who have taken a critical look at it: 1) COLT takes the real process of concept learning and IDEALIZES it. 2) The idealization involves a two-step process: A) Assume

Re: [agi] Has anyone read On Intelligence

2007-02-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Aki Iskandar wrote: I'd be interested in getting some feedback on the book On Intelligence (author: Jeff Hawkins). It is very well written - geared for the general masses of course - so it's not written like a research paper, although it has the feel of a thesis. The basic premise of the

Re: [agi] Has anyone read On Intelligence

2007-02-21 Thread Bo Morgan
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Richard Loosemore wrote: ) Aki Iskandar wrote: ) I'd be interested in getting some feedback on the book On Intelligence ) (author: Jeff Hawkins). ) ) It is very well written - geared for the general masses of course - so it's ) not written like a research paper,

Re: [agi] Has anyone read On Intelligence

2007-02-21 Thread J. Storrs Hall, PhD.
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 11:52, Aki Iskandar wrote: I'd be interested in getting some feedback on the book On Intelligence (author: Jeff Hawkins). ... The basic premise of the book, if I can even attempt to summarize it in two statements (I wouldn't be doing it justice though) is: 1 -

Re: [agi] Has anyone read On Intelligence

2007-02-21 Thread Shane Legg
I think On Intelligence is a good book. It made an impact on me when I first read it, and it lead to me reading a lot more neuro science since then. Indeed in hindsight is seems strange to me that I was so interested in AGI and yet I hadn't seriously studied what is known about how the brain

Re: [agi] Has anyone read On Intelligence

2007-02-21 Thread Aki Iskandar
Thanks guys. It is relieving to get your insights. Hawkins' second set of statements, in my original thread, seemed to not feel right. Granted, scientists do not know how our grey matter works - not from an in depth / confirmed stance at least - so its probably fairly easy to come up

Re: [agi] Has anyone read On Intelligence

2007-02-21 Thread Shane Legg
Sorry, the new version of the book I mentioned (I read the old one) is called Principles of Neural Science. With regards to computer power, I think it is very important. The average person doing research in AI (i.e. a PhD grad student) doesn't have access to much more than a PC or perhaps a

Re: [agi] Has anyone read On Intelligence

2007-02-21 Thread Aki Iskandar
Eric - very interesting email. It's a shame that Hawkins skirted the issues, and questions you posed to him. He's obviously a very intelligent man - but maybe more so on the business side (he's had outstanding success) than pure research - maybe? I'd like to be able to read his sequel