: A. T. Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: [agi] Open-Source AGI
Mike Tintner wrote:
The greatest challenge - and these are my first,
very stumbling thoughts here - is to find ways that
people can work together on the overall problem
The open source idea sounds great and in general I agree with this
approach. One of the main benefits in my view is ensuring that
powerful new technology does not fall into the hands of any single
individual, company or nation who could then monopolise its use,
potentially with unfriendly
I should add that part of the creative challenge of developing an
integrational structure for AGI is to develop one that will allow CREATIVE
minds to work together - and not just hacks a la Wikip. - and enable them
to integrate whole sets of major new inventions and innovations.
And that too,
On 5/11/07, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I should add that part of the creative challenge of developing an
integrational structure for AGI is to develop one that will allow CREATIVE
minds to work together - and not just hacks a la Wikip. - and enable
them
to integrate whole sets of
On Friday 11 May 2007 05:16:44 am Bob Mottram wrote:
...
But in practice it's difficult to do AI in an open source way, because
I've found that at least up until the present there have been very few
people who actually know anything about the algorithms involved and
can make a useful
Mike Tintner wrote:
Thanks!
[...]
So, ATM, is anyone following up on your ideas and
sourceforge framework?
http://AIMind-I.com is where Mr. Frank J. Russo (FJR)
has created its own website for his version of my
http://mind.sourceforge.net/mind4th.html AI in Forth.
On another note, Ben
Just been looking at the vids. of last year's AGI conference. One thing
really hit me from the panel talk - and that was: but, of course, only
open-source AGI will ever work. Sorry, but all these ideas of individual
systems, produced by teams of - what? - say, twenty individuals at most -
Ben, I imagine, more or less knows the open-source truth in talking about
an
AGI Manhattan Project. But even that would be too small. The whole world
-
the whole Internet - will have to be involved..
I don't really agree with this.
A Manhattan project would be awesome and would maximize
On 5/11/07, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The greatest challenge - and these are my first, very stumbling thoughts
here - is to find ways that people can work together on the overall
roblem - that all these systems (or subsystems) that people are working
on
can connect and evolve
On May 10, 2007, at 6:29 PM, Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
Ben, I imagine, more or less knows the open-source truth in talking
about an
AGI Manhattan Project. But even that would be too small. The whole
world -
the whole Internet - will have to be involved..
I don't really agree with this.
On 5/11/07, Samantha Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tend to agree. Many hands and eyeballs are great for a project of
many relatively isolatable components whose requirements and
interaction are relatively understood. But AGI is pushing the
envelope tremendously and, to the degree I
On May 10, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Russell Wallace wrote:
Well there are two phases, framework and content. The framework is
as you say: it needs to be a cathedral. The content needs to be of
volume such that only a whole industry can create it: definitely a
bazaar. The hard part then is
On 5/11/07, Samantha Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think (could be wrong) that part of the goal of the core team is to
create a mind that can largely navigate huge amounts of data for
itself, something that has the basis to learn autonomously on the
Web. It may take a phase of a lot of
Open source vs closed source is one of the most difficult decisions I faced
in my entire AGI career.
I've always championed open source AND for-profit, which is the
middleground of open-free and closed-commercial, though it may seem like
a contradiction. Sometimes I think it may work in a
Mind you, the free/commercial and closed/open-source decisions are separate
ones. They're strategic decisions; there's nothing about the problem that
intrinsically requires either, it's a matter of coming up with a strategy
that can let the participants pay the rent while they work on the
Mike Tintner wrote:
The greatest challenge - and these are my first,
very stumbling thoughts here - is to find ways that
people can work together on the overall problem -
that all these systems (or subsystems) that people
are working on can connect and evolve together.
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