Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-05 Thread Richard Loosemore
Yan King Yin wrote: On 8/5/06, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. IMO, a simple rule like this does not correctly capture human usage of qualifiers across contexts, and is not adequate for AI purposes Perhaps this rule is a decent high-level

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-05 Thread Charles D Hixson
Yan King Yin wrote: ... 2. If you think your method is better, the mechanism underlying your rule might be more complex than predicate logic. That's kind of strange. YKY Not strange at all. The brain had a long evolutionary history before language was ever created. Languages are attempts

[agi] Re: On proofs of correctness

2006-08-05 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Charles D Hixson wrote: An excellent warning on proofs of correctness is at: http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/06/extra-extra-read-all-about-it-nearly.html Hear, hear. But I don't take away the lesson that not even formal methods are powerful enough. They would've caught this if, for

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-05 Thread Yan King Yin
On 8/6/06, Charles D Hixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not strange at all.The brain had a long evolutionary history before language was ever created.Languages are attempts to model parts of the organization of the brain (and NOT attempts at a complete modeling). Therefore it's reasonable to

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-05 Thread Pei Wang
On 8/5/06, Yan King Yin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the brain is actually quite smart, perhaps due to intense selection for intelligence over a long period of time dating back to fishes. I suspect that the brain actually has an internal representation somewhat similar to predicate logic.

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-05 Thread Yan King Yin
On 8/6/06, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too am a little puzzled by Ben's reservations here. Is it because Yan implied that the rule would be applied literally, and therefore it would be fragile (e.g. there might be a case where the threshold for significantly was missed by a

Re: [agi] fuzzy logic necessary?

2006-08-05 Thread Yan King Yin
On 8/6/06, Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the brain is actually quite smart, perhaps due to intense selection for intelligence over a long period of time dating back to fishes.I suspect that the brain actually has an internal representation somewhat similar to predicate logic.