I'd like to raise a FAQ: Why is so little AGI research and development being done?The answers of Goertzel, Moravec, Kurzweil, Voss, and others all agree on this (no need to repeat them here), and I've read
Are We Spiritual Machines, but I come away unsatisfied. (Still, if there is nothing more
Thanks, all, for those insightful answers. In combination with the published discussion of the topic, this thread is enlightening. Still, to push the point, I am fantasizing a conversation with a Hypothetical Open-Minded World-Renowned Eloquent Cognitive Scientist (Howecs). Surely there must be a
Josh,
Your point about layering makes perfect sense.
I just ordered your book, but, impatient as I am, could I ask a question
about this, though I've asked a similar question before: Why have not the
elite of intelligent and open-minded leading AI researchers not attempted a
multi-layered
Josh,
Thanks for that answer on the layering of mind.
It's not that any existing level is wrong, but there aren't enough of
them, so
that the higher ones aren't being built on the right primitives in current
systems. Word-level concepts in the mind are much more elastic and plastic
than
Stefan,
Biases fall into all these categories. Certainly some biases were
useful in the ancestral environment, and even today.
The key difference however is that an optical illusion is relatively easy
to recognize where a cognitive bias is not.
I'm not so sure. I'd say that optical
Surely Marvin Minsky -- a top MIT professor, with a world-beating reputation
in multiple fields -- can snap his fingers and get all the required funding,
whether commercial or non-profit, for AGI projects which he initiates or
supports?
Joshua
2007/10/28, Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This
Also, perhaps the left hand side of the equation in defn 1.3.3 should have a
union symbol rather than a sum?
Page 11 .. section 1.6, Fourth sentence of first paragraph,
a psi is missing a backslash \psi (so its spelled out, instead of a
symbol being printed.)
Likewise in page 6, def 1.2.2.
What you are advocating is to fund Development but not Research.
Ben,
I favor funding for both R and D.
Would you put the Novamente project in the R or the D phase? If a
prototype is a good way to distinguish the two, is there a prototype
for Novamente? And if it is still in the research phase,
I actually thought that that was one of the more positive pieces I've found.
Listeners may come out with a bad (mis-)impression, but NPR did nothing to
abet that.
Joshua
2007/12/3, Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Perhaps a good word of warning is that it will be really easy to
paradigm ...I still find it a fuzzy term,
Kuhn reviews this fuzziness in his epilogue on the 3rd edition.
But one definition of paradigm is the shared examples which drive a field.
For example, chess for GOFAI, or the Turing Test for AI. These two are
notparadigms for a new field of AGI -- in
Turing also committed suicide.
And Chislenko. Each of these people had different circumstances, and
suicide strikes everywhere, but I wonder if there is a common thread.
Joshua
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When transhumanists talk about indefinite life extension, they often take
care to say it's optional to forestall one common objection.
Yet I feel that most suicides we see should have been prevented -- that the
person should have been taken into custody and treated if possible, even
against their
To return to the old question of why AGI research seems so rare, Samsonovich
et al. say (
http://members.cox.net/alexei.v.samsonovich/samsonovich_workshop.pdf)
'In fact, there are several scientific communities pursuing the same or
similar goals, each unified under their own unique slogan:
I emphatically agree. I want to see intelligent targeted discussion of AGI.
Actually, I wouldn't mind the is AGI possible discussion if it was smart
and focused, but I think that narrowing the topic would increase the
quality.
Joshua
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
About graduate programs and AGI: It seems that Temple University has an
affinity for AGI people--Ben Goertzel, Pei Wang, and now Peter de Blanc. Is
this just a coincidence?
Joshua
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote:
Can I start the PhD directly without
This has probably been discussed at length, so I will appreciate a reference
on this:
Why does Legg's definition of intelligence (following on Hutters' AIXI and
related work) involve a reward function rather than a utility function? For
this purpose, reward is a function of the word state/history
by some additive constant, in the
long run ;)
ben
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Joshua Fox joshuat...@gmail.com wrote:
This has probably been discussed at length, so I will appreciate a
reference on this:
Why does Legg's definition of intelligence (following on Hutters' AIXI and
related
or unknown.
Joshua
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Joshua Fox joshuat...@gmail.com wrote:
I found the answer as given by Legg, *Machine Superintelligence*, p. 72,
copied below. A reward function is used to bypass potential difficulty in
communicating a utility function to the agent.
Joshua
, the AI would be very pleased to knock
the human out of the loop and push its own buttons. Similar comments would
apply to automated reward calculations.
--Abram
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Joshua Fox joshuat...@gmail.com wrote:
Another point. I'm probably repeating the obvious
I'll second that.
I'd love to have the many fields necessary for AGI neatly summarized for me
-- or should I say spoon-fed to me :-)
This can come in the form of a book, a good website, an online course, or an
onlined course with video and lecture notes.
Joshua
2007/4/13, Ryan McCall [EMAIL
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