[agi] Re: strong and weakly self improving processes

2006-08-07 Thread Eric Baum
Eric Baum wrote: even if there would be some way to keep modifying the top level to make it better, one could presumably achieve just as powerful an ultimate intelligence by keeping it fixed and adding more powerful lower levels (or maybe better yet, middle levels) or more or better chunks

Re: [agi] Re: strong and weakly self improving processes

2006-08-07 Thread Charles D Hixson
Eric Baum wrote: Eric Baum wrote: even if there would be some way to keep modifying the top level to make it better, one could presumably achieve just as powerful an ultimate intelligence by keeping it fixed and adding more powerful lower levels (or maybe better yet, middle levels) or more

[agi] Re: strong and weakly self improving processes

2006-07-15 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Eric Baum wrote: Eliezer It should be emphasized that I wrote LOGI in 2002; Didn't know that. Are the rest of the papers in that 2005 book as old? Eliezer Nonetheless, calling something complex doesn't explain it. Methinks you protest too much, although I take the point. You may be

[agi] Re: strong and weakly self improving processes

2006-07-15 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote: Eric Baum wrote: Eliezer Considering the infinitesimal amount of information that Eliezer evolution can store in the genome per generation, on the Eliezer order of one bit, Actually, with sex its theoretically possible to gain something like sqrt(P) bits per

[agi] Re: strong and weakly self improving processes

2006-07-14 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Eric Baum wrote: These matters are discussed in more detail in What is Thought?, particularly the later chapters. You may assume I've read it. Eliezer, I enjoyed Levels of Organization in General Intelligence. I very much agree that there must be depth and complexity in the computation.

[agi] Re: strong and weakly self improving processes

2006-07-14 Thread Eric Baum
Eliezer It should be emphasized that I wrote LOGI in 2002; Didn't know that. Are the rest of the papers in that 2005 book as old? Eliezer Nonetheless, calling something complex doesn't explain it. Methinks you protest too much, although I take the point. But I did like the presentation--