Re: AI isn't cheap (was Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.))

2008-09-07 Thread Steve Richfield
Matt, On 9/6/08, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, where are you getting your cost estimate for AGI? 1. I believe that there is some VERY fertile but untilled ground, which if it is half as good as it looks, could yield AGI a LOT cheaper than other higher estimates. Of course if

Re: AI isn't cheap (was Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.))

2008-09-06 Thread Steve Richfield
Matt, I heartily disagree with your view as expressed here, and as stated to my by heads of CS departments and other high ranking CS PhDs, nearly (but not quite) all of whom have lost the fire in the belly that we all once had for CS/AGI. I DO agree that CS is like every other technological

Re: AI isn't cheap (was Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.))

2008-09-06 Thread Matt Mahoney
Steve, where are you getting your cost estimate for AGI? Is it a gut feeling, or something like the common management practice of I can afford $X so it will cost $X? My estimate of $10^15 is based on the value of the world economy, US $66 trillion per year and increasing 5% annually over the

AI isn't cheap (was Re: Real vs. simulated environments (was Re: [agi] draft for comment.. P.S.))

2008-09-05 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Steve Richfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that a billion or so, divided up into small pieces to fund EVERY disparate approach to see where the low hanging fruit is, would go a LONG way in guiding subsequent billions. I doubt that it would take a trillion to succeed.