Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize

2006-08-16 Thread Matt Mahoney
l a word. Who is smart and who is dumb? -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message From: Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: agi@v2.listbox.comSent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:17:52 AMSubject: Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge priz

Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize

2006-08-16 Thread Mark Waser
ys uses the same simple rules. Dumb often works and "really smart" is smart enough to use dumb when it works. - Original Message - From: Matt Mahoney To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Mahoney/Sampo:

Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize

2006-08-15 Thread Mark Waser
I don't see any point in this debate over lossless vs. lossy compression Lets see if I can simplify it. The stated goal is compressing human knowledge. The exact, same knowledge can always be expressed in a *VERY*large number of different bit strings Not being able to reproduce

Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize

2006-08-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
sion ratio is ideal.-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message From: Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: agi@v2.listbox.comSent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:28:26 AMSubject: Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize I don't see

Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize

2006-08-15 Thread Mark Waser
: Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize I realize it is tempting to use lossy text compression as a test for AI because that is what the human brain does when we read text and recall it in paraphrased fashion. We remember the ideas

Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize

2006-08-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
dels...-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message From: Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: agi@v2.listbox.comSent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:22:10 PMSubject: Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize Could you please write a test program to obj

Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize

2006-08-15 Thread Philip Goetz
On 8/15/06, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize it is tempting to use lossy text compression as a test for AI because that is what the human brain does when we read text and recall it in paraphrased fashion. We remember the ideas and discard details about the expression of those

Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize

2006-08-15 Thread Mark Waser
ompressing program would still "certainly demonstrate AI" - Original Message - From: Matt Mahoney To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless com

Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize

2006-08-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
pression ratio. - Original Message ----- From: Matt Mahoney To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Mahoney/Sampo: [agi] Marcus Hutter's lossless compression of human knowledge prize You could use Keogh's compression dissimila