AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Gregoire Dubois
Dear list, Having fit a variogram to a dataset (indoor radon measurements) and applied cross-validations, I noticed the perfect negative correlation (-0.95) between my kriging residuals and my input data. This means that I am overestimating as much the low values as I am underestimating the

RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread bob sandefur
Gregoire and List- Sorry I didn't read bottom of email (phone screen is too small) Pure nugget means estimate is mean of data Correlation between (Mean-Data) vs Data is -1 I assume -.95 is because your search radius doesn't use all the data or excluding the 1 point in xvalidation

RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Gregoire Dubois
Hi Edzer, I thought about that (the nugget effect) but my variogram (and robust variograms) did show a short scale structure (with a high nugget effect). Considering the possibility you mention, that I actually have a phenomenon with a pure nugget effect although I see a structure, what do I

RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread bob sandefur
Gregoire- Sounds like white noise to me and your estimate is the mean eg 3 point example Input -1 0 1 Est 0 0 0 Res 1 0 -1 (as est-input) Is your variogram high nugget? Robert (Bob) L. Sandefur PE Senior Geostatistician / Reserve Analyst CAM 200 Union Suite 430

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Carme Hervada i Sala
Hi, Gregoire, what is the error of your measurements? Perhaps this is masking your data? sometimes they can be very big! Are you able to know it? Hope this helps, Carme En/na Gregoire Dubois ha escrit: Hi Edzer, I thought about that (the nugget effect) but my variogram (and robust

AI-GEOSTATS: Re: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Isobel Clark
Gregoire The correlation between actual value and error of estimation is always present to some extent and is simply due to the estimation process. High values will b eunderestimated from neighbouring samples. Low values will be overestimated from neighbouring samples. The only way you

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Mudrey
Dear Gregoire As one who has dealt extensively with radon (but not from the statistical world), I would appreciate it if you could post to one of your sites either histogram in either log or some other plot. (or your data if possible) I have been dealing with over 50,000 data points

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Ashton Shortridge
Hello Gregoire, and list, I'd guess that, although you may be seeing some spatial structure in your data, the effective range of your model may be less than the minimum distance between the locations you are predicting and their closest known locations. In other words, your model may

AI-GEOSTATS: To Count or Not to Count

2008-01-30 Thread Jan W Merks
Gregoire, The question of whether or not to count degrees of freedom still does not get the attention it so richly deserves. Once upon a time I asked a prominent professor of mathematics whether or not degrees of freedom may be dismissed with impunity. His response was, But without degrees of