Many thanks to all for the responses, will work on cleaning this up next
weekend (don't like doing things like this on a production server during
the week)...
On 3/2/2015 9:53 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 09:29:15 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
Yes, you shouldn't
Hi all,
Ok, I did this a very long time ago, and can't for the life of me
remember where/how I did this...
I have some lists that have a max_size set, and when someone sends an
email that exceeds this size, it gets held for moderation, and the
sender gets a notification of this, but it is a
On 2/25/2015 10:21 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
It is possible you just modified the messages in the MessageTooBig class
definition in Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py. The postheld.txt template is
also involved in the notice to the user, but it is used for all held
messages so it seems
Honest question...
What exactly is libsystemd0?
Maybe a simple solution would be to just rename it to something less
'offensive' to some, like:
libinit - or libinit0
?
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On 2/13/2015 12:37 AM, Igor Lyustin i...@sfrepairs.com wrote:
I replaced my tablet for a new version, and K-9 started eating a lot of
data. Every time it fetches mail, it downloads everything I have on the
server to my tablet, and then erases it. That results in extreme data
overage. Please
Philip,
I'm not sure what your particular problem is, but I've installed
Libreoffice on multiple Win 8.1 systems with zero problems.
Methinks this may be a problem with some crapware that your hardware
vendor so thoughtfully installed for you - or possibly a PEBKAC issue...
On 1/29/2015 10:13
On 1/26/2015 5:53 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:27:05 -0500, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
script: /bin/fgrep: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
Anyone know if this is due to something changing in Gentoo?
Upstream changed egrep and fgrep from binaries
Hello all,
Been on rkhunter 1.4.2 for a while, no changes made to its config file,
been running nightly for years without these warnings...
I recently did some Gentoo updates after almost 2 months of no updates
(was out of town), and now, even after running --propupd, I continue to
get these
Hello,
Been on rkhunter 1.4.2 for a while, no changes made to its config file,
runs nightly without any warnings...
I recently did some Gentoo updates after almost 2 months of no updates
(was out of town), and now, even after running --propupd, I continut to
get these warnings:
# grep Warning
On 1/21/2015 4:45 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:58:05 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
Changed mirror setting in make.conf to:
http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/
and all is well now...
Guess there is a problem with mirror.datapipe?
That's why I have
On 1/21/2015 9:01 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote:
On 01/21/2015 08:51 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
From the sync output:
Downloading
'http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/file-5.22.tar.gz'
--2015-01-21 08:49:43--
http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/file-5.22
On 1/21/2015 11:03 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 1/21/2015 9:01 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote:
On 01/21/2015 08:51 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
From the sync output:
Downloading
'http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/file-5.22.tar.gz'
--2015-01-21 08
Hi all,
Ok, new one to me...
I'm performing some updates after a hiatus of a couple of months, and
the second package to be installed was file-5.22.
I have my firewall locked down pretty tight, controlling even outbound
access, and when portage tries to download the source for this file it
is
On 1/21/2015 8:59 AM, christian_ja...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
by when will a Connector version for TB 34 be available?
SOGo only supports RELEASE versions of Thunderbird - so, for now, it is
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Hi all,
Ok, new one to me...
I'm performing some updates after a hiatus of a couple of months, and
the second package to be installed was file-5.22.
I have my firewall locked down pretty tight, controlling even outbound
access, and when
On 1/21/2015 9:57 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
On 21/01/2015 09:52, Charles Marcus wrote:
No one?
Do you see any errors in the Thunderbird error console you click on the
option Reset Calendar Cache?
Thunderbird should NOT restart anymore but the cache will be
On 1/20/2015 1:33 PM, Steve Ankeny stev...@cinergymetro.net wrote:
However, I understand your comment. As I said in another e-mail, I will
continue to implement SASL in Dovecot, as I've already configured most
of the pieces, but for now, we'll let the users work as needed.
Which still
On 1/7/2015 9:14 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 1/6/2015 2:36 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Do you have any third-party notification widgets, designed to tell you
about unread email messages? They might well have K-9 support. Do you have
any system
On 1/7/2015 2:13 AM, Paul Wise pa...@bonedaddy.net wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
Not for those wanting to avoid systemd.
systemd is optional and easy to avoid in Debian.
Until it isn't, and that is the overriding concern, and with very good
reason considering
On 1/7/2015 4:21 AM, Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 12/30/2014 2:39 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote:
* A release, which remains on Python 2.7
* B release, which is only compatible with Python 3.4
So, wheezy admins will be left out
On 1/6/2015 2:36 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Do you have any third-party notification widgets, designed to tell you
about unread email messages? They might well have K-9 support. Do you have
any system automation apps, such as Tasker?
Hmmm...
I do have an app called
On 1/7/2015 10:37 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote:
Let me ask again: if you have to install MM3 from source anyway (and probably
many of its dependencies), why is it also a problem to install Python 3.4 from
source?
Maybe I missed that question (sorry, currently out of the country)...
On 1/4/2015 12:51 PM, cketti cke...@googlemail.com wrote:
Use 'adb logcat' to get more information on which app is the culprit.
I googled your suggestion and found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
I am not a software developer.
How can I fix
On 1/6/2015 8:36 PM, Paul Wise pa...@bonedaddy.net wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 1:48 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
So, wheezy admins will be left out in the cold.
I expect Debian jessie will become Debian stable soon enough.
Not for those wanting to avoid systemd
On 12/30/2014 2:39 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote:
* A release, which remains on Python 2.7
* B release, which is only compatible with Python 3.4
So, wheezy admins will be left out in the cold.
Bummer... :(
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On 1/6/2015 11:17 AM, cketti cke...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 06.01.2015 16:36, Tanstaafl wrote:
How can I fix this without having to learn how to build Android from
scratch??
https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/wiki/Installing-adb
Thanks for the pointer, but I think this is a bit much just
On 1/4/2015 9:12 AM, Dennis Rockwell prr65...@gmail.com wrote:
On January 3, 2015 4:54:01 AM EST, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
Got this error when auto update attempted to update to 5.0.2
Exported my settings so I could uninstall/reinstall
Uninstalled
Now getting the exact
On 1/4/2015 9:12 AM, Dennis Rockwell prr65...@gmail.com wrote:
Go to the download page https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases and download
an earlier version until the devs fix it.
Ok, but how do I install it? Never installed anything not from the
playstore yet.
Thanks
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Got this error when auto update attempted to update to 5.0.2
Exported my settings so I could uninstall/reinstall
Uninstalled
Now getting the exact same error when attempting to install
Now I have no K-9 Mail...
Anyone have any clues???
Thanks,
Charles
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On 1/2/2015 7:31 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
On 02/01/2015 06:41, Charles Marcus wrote:
Well... that isn't good. You mean all Calendars will be the same color?
Users can change colors as they want on their EAS client (Outlook, iOS,
Android, etc.). It's just that this
So, thinking of building a totally new server from scratch on a new
vmWare host for playing around, and was curious of the differences.
Is 5.5 still being maintained just because it is the last major stable
version before 10.x? But then isn't 10.x the way forward?
Is 10.x still considered a
On 12/26/2014 4:25 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote:
On Dec 26, 2014, at 08:48 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:
FWIW, Debian Jessy (aka Testing/Frozen?) has Python 3.4.2.
Yep, Jessie will have 3.4, and Ubuntu has had it since Trusty Tahr (14.04
LTS). I don't know about other distros.
First,
On 12/27/2014 9:32 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
On 27/12/2014 02:16, Charles Marcus wrote:
Sync 1 will pick 1 2, Sync 2 will pick 3, Sync 3 will pick 4, and
Sync 4 will pick 5?
No, it'll work like I said - ie., we stop and return the response when
the size is greater
On 12/22/2014 8:05 PM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
The most significant changes are an important memory leak fix and the
fact that's now possible to limit the returned EAS response size.
You can enable this by setting SOGoMaximumSyncResponseSize to 512 for
example. This will
On 12/16/2014 6:40 AM, Andrew Hodgson and...@hodgsonfamily.org wrote:
I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have
complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work
with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML format, and
a link be
On 12/12/2014 5:07 AM, Louis DUBAILLE l.dubai...@eurytos.fr wrote:
With a thunderbird which has the problem, when i refresh calendar this
error appears in thunderbird error console:
By refresh, do you mean resetting the Calendar Cache? I have found that
usually works...
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Is this possible?
I have two layman repos I have added at some point in time in the past:
sunrise, and ultrabug.
I'd like to see what, if any packages, I have installed from them, and
see if I can remove them and ultimately remove the layman repo.
Thanks
On 11/26/2014 9:28 AM, Александр Паутов sh2d0...@gmail.com wrote:
man eix
Ah, I thought I'd need to do this with the layman command.
Thanks!
-J, --installed-overlay
Only match packages which have been installed from some overlay.
To get a completely reliable
On 11/26/2014 1:34 PM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
On 26/11/2014 13:09, Charles Marcus wrote:
Are you saying you would not recommend this in an office setting, say,
with about 70 users?
I think that has been exaggerated. The initial process of syncing can be
slow and memory
On 11/26/2014 1:32 PM, André Schild an...@schild.ws wrote:
Am 26.11.2014 um 19:09 schrieb Charles Marcus:
Noted for iPhone users.
I also wish I could get my Android to see my Address Books... DavDroid
just doesn't seem to see them, ever...
For Android use the Apps from Marten Gadja.
You
On 11/21/2014 2:32 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as there are developers willing and able to support OpenRC in
Gentoo (and it looks like there are), that will be the case. To make
sure that this remains to be true, help them.
This is really an incorrect (and even
On 11/23/2014 1:00 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:44:12PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
Since OpenRC is the *default* - for now at least - it is *king*, and
systemd is the red-headed step-child, and as such OpenRC is and will be
100% fully supported
On 11/23/2014 2:02 PM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:
I get the distinct feeling that you two should probably read the LWN article
again.
No need...
This:
In the end, it comes down to this: it just is not that important. It is
just a system initialization utility.
simply proves that the
On 11/23/2014 1:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
So, don't be surprised if FreeBSD develops something *really* similar
(along the lines of the second bullet) to systemd in the future
Doesn't matter because:
a) it won't be systemd
(with all of its warts)
b) it won't be
On 11/23/2014 2:24 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
The current Gentoo policy is that maintainers cannot block other devs
from adding support for systemd/openrc/etc to their packages if they
lack such support. Gentoo policy does NOT require maintainers to
support any particular init
On 11/23/2014 3:23 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
Also, I'll wager it likely won't be implemented in such a way as to be
perceived by its user base as being shoved down their throats.
Clarification - this reference was actually to the way Debian is
handling it, not Gentoo - I
On 11/23/2014 4:21 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
There is no such thing as the default init system.
There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not
specify a preference.
Lol!
That is what I would call a 'default'...
On 11/23/2014 3:34 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 11/23/2014 1:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
So, don't be surprised if FreeBSD develops something *really* similar
(along
On 11/22/2014 10:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Lu, 10 nov 14, 18:20:37, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman:
Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer
On 11/23/2014 12:43 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 23 November 2014 17:23:15 Tanstaafl wrote:
'installing systemd, then removing
and installing sysvinit' - was absolutely not and never could be
considered the *equivalent*
of doing a *clean install with sysvinit
On 11/23/2014 2:09 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
It would be nice if you regarded the word functionally as an essential
qualification of equivalent or identical and not dismiss it.
What would be nice is if you (and others) would stop claiming that
'installing systemd, then installing
On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman:
Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer in such a
way that systemd is never installed, thus avoiding any potential
problems that might result from later
On 11/17/2014 6:10 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
Excuse me, but some people think anatomy jokes are distasteful.
Some people think sex should only be for procreation...
PC police get sooo tiring...
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On 11/16/2014 6:40 AM, Klistvud klist...@gmail.com wrote:
As a further example, the former udev (prior to being merged into
systemd) has already been forked and could/will serve us well for
years to come. And so on.
Is eudev in the debian sources?
Or do you mean another fork?
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On 11/15/2014 7:20 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Vi, 14 nov 14, 08:55:47, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 11/14/2014 5:26 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
It was claimed that sysvinit was the default *and only* (emphasis not
mine) init, and therefore no selection
On 11/14/2014 12:46 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/11/2014 18:18, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
The only unusual message is
Systemd is not detected as the running init system;
which is true since I still use openrc (but with systemd installed, as
well)
Could this be the
On 11/14/2014 5:26 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
It was claimed that sysvinit was the default *and only* (emphasis not
mine) init, and therefore no selection was needed, but now that there
are several a selection suddenly is needed.
I don't recall claiming that sysvinit
On 11/12/2014 5:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mi, 12 nov 14, 15:43:09, Tanstaafl wrote:
Sounds good to me, but in reality, since the default *and only* init
system for the last very many years was Sysvinit (this extremely salient
point seems to be completely
On 11/13/2014 10:53 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 08 November 2014 15:31:02 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
Andrei Popescu:
Quote from above, with added emphasis:
Upstart was the only *real* contender to systemd *at the time* of
the evaluation for the Technical
On 11/13/2014 3:42 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jo, 13 nov 14, 11:28:57, Tanstaafl wrote:
Yes, apparently because someone actively sabotaged any possibility of
OpenRC being considered by giving improper bad information on how to use
it...
OpenRC was represented
On 11/11/2014 3:33 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Actually, there's a patch (thank you Kenshi). It has not been applied.
Hence, to use it right now, one has to build a custom version of the
installer. I hope, that post the initial Jessie release, the deboostrap
and
On 11/11/2014 2:16 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
New users do not need to be be aware of all the background to the
choosing of a default init. No advertisement is needed. By definition,
they do not care. They want Debian. Please let them have it.
Wow... what arrogance...
That is
On 11/12/2014 9:02 AM, Laurent Bigonville bi...@debian.org wrote:
So like Michael said, Jessie will indeed be the first
version that allows you to have an alternate init without modifying the
kernel cmdline.
Which is precisely *why* the systemd proponents should have been
required to fix that
On 11/12/2014 10:13 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote:
Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 09.11:40 Tanstaafl a écrit :
Which is precisely *why* (people) should have been required to fix
that bug (…)
This is simply not how Debian works.
If Debian works in such a way that the Tech
On 11/12/2014 10:40 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote:
I can't insist enough on this: the Debian procedures have been correctly
followed; the TC took a decision which could be challenged by a simple
majority GR [0]. This GR has never been called by anyone with voting
rights, or
On 11/12/2014 3:10 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Wed 12 Nov 2014 at 06:27:56 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 11/11/2014 2:16 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
New users do not need to be be aware of all the background to the
choosing of a default init. No advertisement is needed
On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman:
Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer in such a
way that systemd is never installed, thus avoiding any potential
problems that might result from later
On 11/10/2014 6:32 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Am 11.11.2014 um 00:23 schrieb Patrick Bartek:
Optional? Yes. A lot (most) of systemd is optional. (So, I've read.)
But isn't a lot of that optional stuff installed by default?
It is, yes. We decided to not split up a 10M package
On 11/10/2014 6:23 PM, Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, Michael Biebl wrote:
systemd-networkd is an entirely optional component, you don't have to
use it.
systemd-udevd is also an individual component, which btw is also used
under sysvinit (or upstart). You don't
On 11/11/2014 11:38 AM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Other people subscribe to a meaning of default which, e.g., assumes
only that systemd will get installed as PID 1 unless some action is
taken to prevent it from getting so installed. That seems like an
entirely reasonable
On 11/11/2014 9:26 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote:
Blaming the Debian project for letting the Debian distribution evolve in
ways defined by its volunteers is unfair.
Eh? My understanding is that this systemd mess is due to a vote of the
technical committee, a vote that was in
On 11/11/2014 12:07 PM, Laurent Bigonville bi...@debian.org wrote:
There are no functional differences between an installation with
sysvinit-core out of the box or an install where sysvinit-core is
installed later, this is a fact.
Irrelevant.
Allowing the user to choose this at install time
On 9/26/2014 1:04 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 25/09/14 22:03, James wrote:
I'd be better of with a fresh install of lilblue + musl + eudev
is what you are really saying here?
that's the only usecase for eudev currently, yes, otherwise you have no
reason to switch
Hi
On 11/10/2014 7:30 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, there are no plans to make udev stop working without systemd as
far as I can tell. HOWEVER, there ARE plans to require using kdbus to
communicate with udev, and for that to work there needs to be a
userspace initialization of
On 11/10/2014 8:21 AM, Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote:
Checking the news (eselect news read), I see that an upgrade to udev-217
might break firmware loading, so the news tagged
2014-11-07-udev-upgrade says that a kernel = 3.7 should be configured to:
CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER=n
On 11/10/2014 10:48 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it at all, there is no way *sys-fs/udev
ebuild* will ever need systemd. There might be a news item later,
with instructions on moving to something else, but that's not
something we are even planning at
Wondering if this is supported?
Thanks
On 11/10/2014 1:21 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10-Nov-14 18:06, Tanstaafl wrote:
Wondering if this is supported?
It is supported, but not on ESXi-hypervisor (free) anymore.
AFAIK only Trilead VM-Explorer works on free-ESXi (and command
line tools i.e. ghettoVCB).
Cool, thanks
On 11/8/2014 10:03 AM, Mart van de Wege mvdw...@gmail.com wrote:
Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is
chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be
bothered to set up a test server.
Obviously you didn't bother to read his posts.
His
On 11/10/2014 2:01 AM, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Sorry, but requiring an up-to-date kernel (or any other infrastructure you
rely on) instead of maintaining workarounds and compatibility code in
perpetuity makes perfect sense.
It amazes me the depths that some systemd
On 11/10/2014 8:47 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
If systemd can stand on its own, it doesn't have to be defended
against every whinger that comes along.
(And I'll have you know that many, probably most of those you accuse
of being whiners are very busy working out alternatives.
On 11/10/2014 2:01 PM, st s...@kem.ru wrote:
Hans wrote:
And at the beginning things never work perfect
That's why they shouldn't make it into Stable as defaults,
now should they?
Exactly, it should remain in unstable unless/until it can be released
*perfectly* stable, so if that means it
On 11/10/2014 2:08 PM, Andrew McGlashan
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote:
On 11/11/2014 5:46 AM, Hans wrote:
Sorry for that, I hope he will not blame me for that. However, I
intended not to tark part on any side! Neither Lennarts nor the
systemd-haters.
It's not about haters ...
On 11/10/2014 2:44 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Michael Biebl wrote:
Am 10.11.2014 um 19:26 schrieb Patrick Bartek:
Maybe, the release after Jessie will include an init choice.
Ironically, jessie is the first release where you can actually install
an alternative init.
On 11/10/2014 2:50 PM, Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk wrote:
On 10/11/14 19:26, Tanstaafl wrote:
Exactly, it should remain in unstable unless/until it can be released
*perfectly* stable, so if that means it stays in unstable for 5 years,
so be it.
If you want *perfectly* stable software
An opinion from a very new debian user...
On 11/4/2014 5:09 PM, Laurent Bigonville bi...@debian.org wrote:
http://debianfork.org/:
If systemd will be substituting sysvinit in Debian, we will fork the
project and create a new distro. We hope this won't be necessary, but
we are well prepared
1:03 PM, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote:
Quoting myself from
http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20141021184619.gq28...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
with modifications.
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, Tanstaafl wrote:
Personally I think the biggest issue with Jessie at present is the
inability to do
On 11/5/2014 1:35 PM, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote:
It's not an RC bug because it's easy to overcome with a late command.
Not understanding this reference - so, you're saying you *can* perform a
clean install of Jessie using sysvinit for the init system, just using a
special command
On 11/5/2014 1:57 PM, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, Tanstaafl wrote:
Not understanding this reference - so, you're saying you *can* perform
a clean install of Jessie using sysvinit for the init system, just
using a special command during the install process?
Yes
On 10/31/2014 8:35 PM, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31/10/14 20:12, Andreas Säger wrote:
The fact is, Libreoffice, for a long time, simply did not work at al
with Java7.
Huh? Really? Which issue number was that? I can't believe that any LO
version had been released with such a
On 10/31/2014 4:30 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:
Am 31.10.2014 um 20:50 schrieb Sophie Gautier:
So, I figured I'd ask if Java8 was supported - meaning, expected to work
properly in most cases...
Sheesh...
No, that was:
THAT IS WHAT I ASKED FOR.
SHEESH.
See the
On 10/31/2014 4:12 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:
Am 31.10.2014 um 20:32 schrieb Tanstaafl:
If Libreoffice requires Java to do certain things (yes, I understand
that iits reliance on Java is less and less as time goes on, but it
still requires it for some things
On 10/31/2014 3:11 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
Systemd is, in my opinion, suffering from the same feature-creep as Grub2
does.
Grub1 was faster, because it was smaller. But it isn't working propery
anymore
and Grub2 does its job
Eh?? Grub1 doesn't work properly any more?
On 10/30/2014 5:02 PM, Virgil Arrington arringto...@gmail.com wrote:
In my experience on this list, Tom has been extremely helpful and, just
as important, courteous.
I agree for the most part, and he is always polite and cordial.
I just really hate it when someone deigns to try to 'help' me
On 10/31/2014 3:26 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:
Am 31.10.2014 um 19:10 schrieb Tanstaafl:
So, I figured I'd ask if Java8 was supported - meaning, expected to work
properly in most cases...
You are the one to check this out. We don't even know your operating system.
Please
On 10/29/2014 7:37 AM, Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de wrote:
The long-term plans are to drop PORTDIR and PORTDIR_OVERLAY
completely, the reason being that it is not flexible enough:
With repos.conf you can specify details for every repository,
you are not even forced to have a *single* major
Hello,
Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
supported for what versions of Libreoffice?
Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?
Thanks
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Problems?
off java. Hopefully no data-loss occurs and it just grumbles
when something does need Java. If you do get such an error message then it
should be reasonably easy to switch java back on and re-try the task.
Good luck!
Regards from
Tom :)
On 30 October 2014 11:18, Tanstaafl tansta
On 10/30/2014 11:29 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi :)
Sorry! I was trying to say that it might be difficult to get an answer.
Java updates are too frequent and unreliable so tracking them would be
tricky. Oracle are not particularly open and talkative about their
problems.
On 10/28/2014 8:45 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
John Hasler wrote:
Martinx writes:
I'm wondering here about this subject and what it means...
So, what if `udev` becomes useless without `systemd` as PID1?
The someone will fork it. But it won't happen, partly for that
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