On Wednesday 09 July 2014 22:24:20 Marko Käning wrote:
Hi,
On 09 Jul 2014, at 07:14 , Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
On Wednesday 09 July 2014 09:57:27 Ben Cooksley wrote:
* finally he thinks we need to strengthen our CI system and tests to
raise the bar on quality.
Expand
On Wednesday 09 July 2014 10:15:03 David Faure wrote:
On Saturday 28 June 2014 08:51:42 Rodrigo Bonifacio wrote:
Dear all, is there any code guideline that recommends developers to avoid
the use of exception handling mechanisms within the core libraries of KDE?
I don't think it's written
Hello everyone,
This is the minutes of the Week 28 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held on
#kde-devel at 4pm Paris time.
Were present: agateau, apol, d_ed, dfaure, fregl, mgraesslin, notmart,
PovAddict, Riddell, sandsmark, tosky, unormal, vHanda and myself.
Announcements:
* KF 5.0 got
On Tuesday 08 July 2014 18:27:52 John Layt wrote:
Here's a bit of bike-shedding for you: when creating completely new
Frameworks in Tier 1, do we name them with a Q or with a K or with
something completely neutral?
Not really a bike-shedding topic hopefully... We had the case already and we
Hello,
On Wednesday 09 July 2014 09:57:27 Ben Cooksley wrote:
On 9 July 2014 03:30, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
* ervin hopes to see kdepimlibs bits getting in sooner rather than later;
Hmm? Sysadmin has already received a request to get the frameworks
branch of kdepimlibs building
Hello everyone,
This is the minutes of the Week 28 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held on
#kde-devel at 4pm Paris time.
Were present: agateau, apol, d_ed, dfaure, fregl, mgraesslin, notmart,
PovAddict, Riddell, sandsmark, tosky, unormal, vHanda and myself.
Announcements:
* KF 5.0 got
On Tuesday 08 July 2014 18:27:52 John Layt wrote:
Here's a bit of bike-shedding for you: when creating completely new
Frameworks in Tier 1, do we name them with a Q or with a K or with
something completely neutral?
Not really a bike-shedding topic hopefully... We had the case already and we
Hello,
On Wednesday 09 July 2014 09:57:27 Ben Cooksley wrote:
On 9 July 2014 03:30, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
* ervin hopes to see kdepimlibs bits getting in sooner rather than later;
Hmm? Sysadmin has already received a request to get the frameworks
branch of kdepimlibs building
Hello all,
I'm back, so a quick reminder:
The next KF5 Update Meeting will happen on #kde-devel tomorrow at 4pm Paris
time.
This one will be a bit special, it'll be more about future thinking than
reporting. It'll also probably be the last one for a while.
See you there!
Regards.
--
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On Thursday 03 July 2014 19:50:35 laurent Montel wrote:
Hi,
During kdepim porting I saw that it was not possible to add a ActionButton
as QButtonBox is protected.
= we can do it if we create a derived class.
But it’s not a very easy method for just add a button.
I would like to add a new
On Friday 04 July 2014 09:17:04 laurent Montel wrote:
Le vendredi 4 juillet 2014 08:13:58 Kevin Ottens a écrit :
On Thursday 03 July 2014 19:50:35 laurent Montel wrote:
Hi,
During kdepim porting I saw that it was not possible to add a
ActionButton
as QButtonBox is protected.
= we
Hello,
On Wednesday 02 July 2014 08:33:01 Marko Käning wrote:
on OSX solid fails to build because of this:
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ice.cpp:227:25: error: allocating an object of abstract class type
'Solid::Backends::IOKit::Battery'
On Thursday 03 July 2014 09:12:17 Marko Käning wrote:
Please pick one ASAP.
Yes, please!
You can help us there though, please locally revert the commit I mentioned,
and confirm if that fixes the build for solid and allows to build all the way
up to tier 3. I guess you might need to revert
On Thursday 03 July 2014 10:08:13 David Faure wrote:
On Thursday 03 July 2014 09:22:45 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Thursday 03 July 2014 09:12:17 Marko Käning wrote:
Please pick one ASAP.
Yes, please!
You can help us there though, please locally revert the commit I
mentioned
On Thursday 03 July 2014 13:31:16 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Thursday 03 July 2014 10:08:13 David Faure wrote:
On Thursday 03 July 2014 09:22:45 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Thursday 03 July 2014 09:12:17 Marko Käning wrote:
Please pick one ASAP.
Yes, please!
You can help us
as it changed some
backend API but didn't adjust win or iokit backends. Those ones are likely
broken since it got in.
- Kevin Ottens
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Please pick one ASAP.
Yes, please!
You can help us there though, please locally revert the commit I mentioned,
and confirm if that fixes the build for solid and allows to build all the way
up to tier 3. I guess you might need to revert
On Thursday 03 July 2014 10:08:13 David Faure wrote:
On Thursday 03 July 2014 09:22:45 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Thursday 03 July 2014 09:12:17 Marko Käning wrote:
Please pick one ASAP.
Yes, please!
You can help us there though, please locally revert the commit I
mentioned
Hello,
On Wednesday 02 July 2014 10:48:58 David Faure wrote:
On Wednesday 02 July 2014 10:35:29 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Tuesday 01 July 2014 23:13:24 David Faure wrote:
On Tuesday 01 July 2014 16:16:48 Jonathan Riddell wrote:
KDE Frameworks 5 gets its first release this week, anyone
On Tuesday 01 July 2014 11:38:29 David Faure wrote:
On Friday 27 June 2014 12:24:17 Mario Fux wrote:
And what about the future releases of KF5? Any decisions made?
Yes. A new release at the beginning of every month,
rounded up to the nearest weekend.
Here's my suggested release schedule,
On Saturday 28 June 2014 13:13:19 Mario Fux wrote:
Am Samstag, 28. Juni 2014, 13.05:09 schrieb Alex Merry:
Morning Alex
And what about the future releases of KF5? Any decisions made? At least
Plasma 5 has a tentative schedule now:
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5
I
On Tuesday 24 June 2014 20:28:00 Aleix Pol wrote:
Well, if we don't like it, we can enable the API. It's tested and somewhat
reviewed.
I don't feel somewhat reviewed is enough. :-)
On the other hand, it can be a good exercise for KF5 to start adopting new
API's.
Yes, that's in fact my main
On Tuesday 24 June 2014 19:17:44 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Monday 23 June 2014 19:29:19 Kevin Ottens wrote:
What do you mean? Not releasing solid as part of 5.0? Not enabling the new
async API?
Not enabling the new api.
I don't really like that... But I don't feel like postponing to August
Hello,
On Monday 23 June 2014 17:56:20 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
As many of you know late in the game I started writing some new code to add
much needed asynchronous api to Solid/Power which meant moving the old
deprecate code to kdelibs4Support.
The new API is done (you can review it on master,
On Friday 20 June 2014 13:13:20 Aleix Pol wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
On Friday 20 June 2014 01:46:10 Aleix Pol wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
I was thinking, since the policy
On Friday 20 June 2014 22:11:57 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Divendres, 20 de juny de 2014, a les 01:46:10, Aleix Pol va escriure:
I've heard of many complaints about how noisy is kde-frameworks mailing
list because of review requests. Also, I fear there's people not working
at full speed in
On Saturday 21 June 2014 11:22:28 Michael Pyne wrote:
On Thu, June 19, 2014 23:21:22 Marco Martin wrote:
Hi all,
I was thinking, since the policy for committing in frameworks is to always
asking for a review, what about on repositories under frameworks/* adding
an hook that accepts pushes
Hello,
On Thursday 19 June 2014 22:30:26 André Wöbbeking wrote:
I wanted to give KF5 a try and followed the instructions from
http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building. After Albert told me not to
use Clang most of it compiled without any problem.
Actually if it breaks with Clang it should
On Friday 20 June 2014 01:46:10 Aleix Pol wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I was thinking, since the policy for committing in frameworks is to always
asking for a review, what about on repositories under frameworks/* adding
an
hook
On Thursday 19 June 2014 08:21:30 Ben Cooksley wrote:
On 19 June 2014 07:19, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
On Monday 16 June 2014 20:55:10 Michael Pyne wrote:
On Mon, June 16, 2014 13:14:47 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Monday 16 June 2014 12:58:30 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
I encountered
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On June 15
Hello everyone,
This is the minutes of the Week 25 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held on
#kde-devel at 4pm Paris time.
Were present: agateau, apol, mgraesslin and myself.
* agateau did some kapidox fixes on api.kde.org;
* he also fixed a crash in KCMultiDialog;
* he also proposed
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On May 5, 2014, 7:17 a.m., Kevin Ottens wrote:
IIRC that was intentional as to not have kjs depend on kdoctools.
Alex Merry wrote:
Hrm. Distros like Debian aren't going to be super-happy about this. And
KJS is officially a porting aid, so I'm not sure bumping it to tier 3
not committed yet?
- Kevin Ottens
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This sounds like an issue that needs to be fixed in KArchive...
Alex Merry wrote:
Where, exactly, were the files appearing? And which files were appearing
there?
Any update about that patch?
- Kevin
?
- Kevin Ottens
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i18n. Can go in IMO.
- Kevin Ottens
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On June 16, 2014, 10:09 a.m., Emmanuel Pescosta wrote:
src/core/kcoredirlister_p.h, lines 40-42
https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/118775/diff/1/?file=281658#file281658line40
using KFileItem::KFileItem; maybe?
Frank Reininghaus wrote:
Maybe - I'm always a bit unsure which
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On June 16, 2014, 12:42
On June 16, 2014, 7:10 p.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote:
I would like to get the opinion from people who designed kglobalaccel.
Personally I do not understand what the default shortcuts are for and why
they are needed.
From reading the documentation my understanding is that your patch is
On June 17, 2014, 4:11 p.m., Kevin Ottens wrote:
Marco, any chance for a second run of review on that patch?
Marco Martin wrote:
i still not like this patch..
Should be dropped then? Or it can get somewhere?
Feel free to drop it if you consider it a dead end. I prefer that to open
On June 17, 2014, 4:11 p.m., Kevin Ottens wrote:
Marco, any chance for a second run of review on that patch?
Marco Martin wrote:
i still not like this patch..
Kevin Ottens wrote:
Should be dropped then? Or it can get somewhere?
Feel free to drop it if you consider
Hello everyone,
This is the minutes of the Week 25 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held on
#kde-devel at 4pm Paris time.
Were present: agateau, apol, mgraesslin and myself.
* agateau did some kapidox fixes on api.kde.org;
* he also fixed a crash in KCMultiDialog;
* he also proposed
not committed yet?
- Kevin Ottens
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On May 16, 2014, 11:49 a.m., Alex Merry wrote:
This sounds like an issue that needs to be fixed in KArchive...
Alex Merry wrote:
Where, exactly, were the files appearing? And which files were appearing
there?
Any update about that patch?
- Kevin
not committed yet?
- Kevin Ottens
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- Kevin
On June 17, 2014, 4:11 p.m., Kevin Ottens wrote:
Marco, any chance for a second run of review on that patch?
Marco Martin wrote:
i still not like this patch..
Should be dropped then? Or it can get somewhere?
Feel free to drop it if you consider it a dead end. I prefer that to open
On May 5, 2014, 7:17 a.m., Kevin Ottens wrote:
IIRC that was intentional as to not have kjs depend on kdoctools.
Alex Merry wrote:
Hrm. Distros like Debian aren't going to be super-happy about this. And
KJS is officially a porting aid, so I'm not sure bumping it to tier 3
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On May 26, 2014, 7:09
On Monday 16 June 2014 12:58:30 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Frank Reininghaus frank7...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Hello everyone,
I tried to set up a separate Qt5+KF5 build in release mode.
Unfortunately, I did not succeed :-(
The first package that fails
adjustments. That's great!
Definitely a go IMO.
As for KDBusConnectionPool it's fine to use it I think. As you pointed out
it'll be easy to switch later on if QTBUG-39528 gets addressed.
- Kevin Ottens
On June 8, 2014, 10:11 a.m., David Faure wrote
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On June 7, 2014, 3:12
On Sunday 01 June 2014 10:34:07 David Faure wrote:
On Friday 30 May 2014 07:54:45 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
Hi all,
while trying to get rid of kdelibs4support I stumbled [1] over
KIntSpinBox::setSuffix which allows to set a plural aware suffix. The
recommendation is to port to QSpinBox,
Hello,
On Tuesday 03 June 2014 17:59:18 David Faure wrote:
On Tuesday 03 June 2014 17:53:22 Kevin Ottens wrote:
I'm not sure I get the reasoning leading to that conclusion. Can't be done
upstream in Qt?
This is all about calling i18n() at runtime, from within the widget (when
the value
Hello,
On Thursday 22 May 2014 21:08:05 Alex Merry wrote:
There are currently four frameworks that are yellow (for between 6 hours and
8 days). kdelibs4support has had 3 commits (not counting those by scripty)
since it broke that have done nothing to fix the issue.
If we claim that our
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 09:16:23 David Faure wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 23:07:21 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 10:58:01 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 11:30:54 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 10:20:35 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Meanwhile, I
Hello,
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 16:38:54 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
keeping in mind that this thread is not about Plasma or any of the KDE
applications, the expectations and goals of the *Frameworks* developers
_and_ users (app devs) are probably unique in this case.
the Frameworks team would
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 11:28:45 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:17:15 Kevin Ottens wrote:
The aim is the following in my books:
Thanks :)
Obviously the difficult point as certainty goes is the last one, as it is
highly dependent on the amount of contributions which
On Monday 19 May 2014 22:28:27 Scott Kitterman wrote:
Speaking as a packager for a distro that's in group #2, I don't see this as
any change from your initial proposal.
That's correct...
You're proposal moves us into group #1
... which is what I stated I think.
Chosen extracts:
Going
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 10:20:35 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Meanwhile, I notice that the release date of May 4th for B2 wasn't attained,
or did it just go without a announcement and dot story?
It was published, but indeed no announcement and dot story.
Regards.
--
Kévin Ottens,
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:19:59 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On May 20, 2014 4:19:26 AM EDT, Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com
So after 5.0, 5.0.1 is released with minor features and bugfixes (but
no mandatory changes in dependencies at all); which continues until
January, when 5.1 comes out,
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:55:26 Scott Kitterman wrote:
I'm open to discussing change, but so far the change is You're on your own,
get over it. Not a lot to discuss in that.
It's not at all the way it's been thought, it is unfortunate if it is
perceived that way. Looks like I can't frame and
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 08:00:43 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 08:04:59 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Monday 19 May 2014 22:28:27 Scott Kitterman wrote:
Speaking as a packager for a distro that's in group #2, I don't see this
as
any change from your initial proposal
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 08:52:39 Scott Kitterman wrote:
That's how it comes across to me. There was a lot of negative feedback the
first time and the reaction to that comes across to me as a patronizing
repetition of the initial proposal wrapped up in IMO unfounded assurances
that it would be
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 10:58:01 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 11:30:54 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 10:20:35 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Meanwhile, I notice that the release date of May 4th for B2 wasn't
attained, or did it just go without a announcement and dot
Hello all,
First of all, my apologies for the long time taken for me to send an email.
So, this release cycle proposal generated more debate among our dear packagers
than we anticipated. I tried to keep up with the thread, but too be honest
it's far too long at that point and also the
Hello everyone,
This is the minutes of the Week 20 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held on
#kde-devel at 4pm Paris time.
Were present: afiestas, agateau, alexmerry, arichardson, PovAddict, Riddell,
sebas, shadeslayer, teo and myself.
* afiestas has been working on the async powermanagement
Hello everyone,
This is the minutes of the Week 20 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held on
#kde-devel at 4pm Paris time.
Were present: afiestas, agateau, alexmerry, arichardson, PovAddict, Riddell,
sebas, shadeslayer, teo and myself.
* afiestas has been working on the async powermanagement
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On May 8, 2014, 8:48 p.m
Hello,
On Monday 12 May 2014 03:15:22 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
We can either turn Sonnet into a tier 3 module, remove the documentation
or move it somewhere else. Bumping Sonnet from tier 1 to tier 3 sounds
bad to me. Since the documentation only describes the correction dialog,
I suggest
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On April 12, 2014, 10:48 a.m., Alex Merry wrote:
This is my preferred solution, and is hopefully only a temporary one.
However, I know David Faure doesn't like it, and (I assume) would rather
have a generic LIBEXEC variable.
My view is that libexec should be used for stuff that's
along the way. K4About* is
supposed to be the porting tool, so let's have this one in even if that's SIC.
- Kevin Ottens
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Ping, any new opinions on this?
Looks good to me, but I'd rather see someone more knowledgeable with
ktexteditor give the ship it.
- Kevin
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On May 12, 2014, 2:32
On Monday 12 May 2014 22:46:08 Alex Merry wrote:
KFileAudioPreview is currently a framework that just provides a plugin.
This plugin is specifically looked for by the KFileMetaPreview class in KIO.
Perhaps it's too late to change this, but it seems to me that this
plugin should either be in
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AFAICT it is BIC but no SIC, no brainer.
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On May 6, 2014, 1:30 p.m., Kevin Ottens wrote:
AFAICT it is BIC but no SIC, no brainer.
Martin Gräßlin wrote:
it's a SIC change as one could have used the variant specifying just
NET::Properties and screen. This would now have to be changed to use
NET::Properties2 before screen
On May 6, 2014, 1:30 p.m., Kevin Ottens wrote:
AFAICT it is BIC but no SIC, no brainer.
Martin Gräßlin wrote:
it's a SIC change as one could have used the variant specifying just
NET::Properties and screen. This would now have to be changed to use
NET::Properties2 before screen
on kdoctools.
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Hello all,
After the release of beta 2, we realized that it couldn't be the last beta for
several reasons:
* a long standing release blocker in libsolid still wasn't addressed in time
for beta 2, it'll hopefully be solved in the next few days, otherwise we'll
put in place a contingency plan;
Hello all,
After the release of beta 2, we realized that it couldn't be the last beta for
several reasons:
* a long standing release blocker in libsolid still wasn't addressed in time
for beta 2, it'll hopefully be solved in the next few days, otherwise we'll
put in place a contingency plan;
on kdoctools.
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Hello,
On Monday 28 April 2014 19:50:51 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
I'm porting libkscreen to Frameworks and I found that we are passing (when
available) -fvisibility=hidden.
After reading this[1] really quick I thought I would send an email here so
people wiser than me can decide if it makes sense
On Tuesday 29 April 2014 12:40:16 Vishesh Handa wrote:
On Sunday, April 27, 2014 12:32:25 AM Kevin Ottens wrote:
No maintainer:
- krunner (porting aid)
I'm willing to maintain krunner.
Please add vhanda to the maintainer key in the metainfo.yaml file then.
Regards.
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Kévin Ottens
Hello everyone,
This is the minutes of the Week 18 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held on
#kde-devel at 4pm Paris time.
Were present: afiestas, agateau, apol, dfaure, notmart, PovAddict, Riddell,
shadeslayer, tosky, teo, vHanda and myself
Announcement:
* Beta 2 to be tagged end of this
On Tuesday 29 April 2014 22:32:46 Michael Pyne wrote:
Hi all,
I was running through Kévin's frameworks release checklist for KCoreAddons,
and came across a class that has some residual porting to accomplish for
KF5, KAboutData.
This class has 2 enums which are commented as needing to be
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