Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed

2005-12-29 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Then I can feed one card through LADSPA giving one mono signal, and the other card though LADSPA giving a second mono signal, and then I can hopefully route the two mono signals out the left and right speakers giving me a stereo signal that has passed through LADSPA. - well, it might be not a

Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed

2005-12-29 Thread Sergei Steshenko
It might be even worse. The cards most likely have independent clock generators. In such a case, there will be (slightly) different playback speed of left and right channels. On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:33:13 +0200 Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I can feed one card through

Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)

2005-12-29 Thread Sergei Steshenko
In the telecom industry there is a special term, if I remember correctly, it's bit shaving. The idea is like this: suppose you're on serial (RS232) link with TWO stop bits, but the frequencies are slightly out of sync. The protocol is implemented in such a manner, that if the second stop bit is

Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed

2005-12-30 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Adam, incidentally, I used to work with LADSPA equalizer plugin, and I have a natively stereo version. Furthermore, my code is written as Perl/C combination, so with a flip of your fingers you can actually get whatever number of channels. The plugin is optimized in a sense that mutual for all

Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)

2005-12-30 Thread Sergei Steshenko
For starters, one may start measuring average frequency of interrupt requests generated by both cards provided both of the play the same length buffer. The measure of the average frequency will be the computers RTC. I am not saying that it is simple, and yes, prior knowledge, like NTP, should be

Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)

2005-12-31 Thread Sergei Steshenko
clock generators, as has already been posted by Nigel Henry. On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:02:15 +0200 Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Technology has known calibration for quite a long time, so the cards (the sampling rate correction code rather) can be precalibrated. That is. before real

Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)

2005-12-31 Thread Sergei Steshenko
It doesn't matter actually. If read pointers of the sound cards are accessible, then one of the soundcards can be considered as the reference one and absolute time can be measured as (buffer_size * number_of_fully_read_buffers) + read_pointer - I mean, read_pointer has the range of

Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed

2005-12-31 Thread Sergei Steshenko
The plugin compiles again - I removed a number of unnecessary things from it. After having some sleep I'll try to launch it. What center frequencies would you like to have ? It's configurable through the plugin's Perl part, I'd like to enter them the way you like the because you'll have other

[Alsa-user] how do I start/create ALSA sequencer device ?

2006-01-01 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Hello All, I am trying to run 'ams' - either stock Mandriva 10.2 version 1.8.5 or heavily patched by myself version 1.8.7. In both cases I'm getting ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory Error opening ALSA sequencer. message. On the

[Alsa-user] Re: how do I start/create ALSA sequencer device ?

2006-01-01 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Oops, restarting ALSA apparently solved the problem, though I have no idea why it was present in the first place. On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:34:51 +0200 Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I am trying to run 'ams' - either stock Mandriva 10.2 version 1.8.5 or heavily patched

Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
To better measure actual drift one has to use really good LPF, which means they have a pretty big delay. So, it doesn't make sense to use a very good sample rate conversion because we learn bout the drift well AFTER it occurs. Good sample rate conversion makes sense only if clock frequencies of

Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Even X-tal oscillators can be tuned over a small range by a voltage controlled capacitor. one should remember that tunability is the opposite of stability/low jitter. If we are talking about synchronization, master clock should be as stable as possible (i.e. xtal, and no caps), and slave

[Alsa-user] multichannel multiband FFT-based equalizer - README

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
-plugins/swh-plugins-0.4.11 ./PerlPreProcessor -config_hash_file PerlPreProcessorConfigHash.c++.prl h ello.c.before_PerlPreProcessor hello.c PerlPreProcessor - Copyright 2001 Sergei Steshenko. This program is free software (GNU General Public License). PerlPreProcessor : INFO : BEGINNING

[Alsa-user] multichannel multiband FFT-based equalizer - the source tarball

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Hello All, please find the promised multichannel multiband FFT-based equalizer. Attached is mbeq_119700.tgz file, it also contains the README file. Regards, Sergei. mbeq_119700.tgz Description: Binary data

Re: [Alsa-user] multichannel multiband FFT-based equalizer - README

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
+0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: The existence of spectral resolution prevents end user from having arbitrary central band frequencies in DFT-based equalizers, central frequencies can only be a multiple of spectral resolution. Not true, you can have arbitrary central frequencies. You can

Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
greater than possible drift due natural instability of C, the stability of C doesn't matter. The stable LC loop is the XTAL in the above analogy. On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:25:41 +0100 fons adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 06:09:17PM +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote

Re: [Alsa-user] multichannel multiband FFT-based equalizer - README

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
is not a multiple of frequency resolution, its amplitude can NOT be changed without affecting the amplitude of other spectral components. On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 23:53:33 +0100 fons adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 11:37:54PM +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: So, how are going

Re: [Alsa-user] multichannel multiband FFT-based equalizer - README

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.user/21688 . On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 01:25:39 +0100 fons adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:22:56AM +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: - do you agree that if, say, I have an 8 point FFTW, the following frequencies are represented

Re: [Alsa-user] multichannel multiband FFT-based equalizer - README

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
FFT-based equalizer similar to the one I published. That is, data from no more than two adjacent FFT buffers can be used. Thanks in advance, Sergei. On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 02:27:46 +0100 fons adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 03:12:50AM +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote

Re: [Alsa-user] multichannel multiband FFT-based equalizer - README

2006-01-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Fons, we are making rounds I want JUST to increase amplitude of 8.5 * Fs / N, and not to touch anything else. Your suggestion to also *decrease* the gain in 7 and 10 will change amplitudes of 7 and 10, and that's exactly what I want to avoid. I am trying to say that if one uses ONLY (k * Fs /

[Alsa-user] relative intercahnnel and intercard delay

2006-01-03 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Hello All, I have a number of general questions regarding interchannel and intercard synchronization. Let's assume that channels in one card and a number of cards (if more than one) have the same clock, i.e. I'm talking about cards which do have external synchronization, and there is no relative

Re: [Alsa-user] Skype - problem with sound device - ?

2006-01-04 Thread Sergei Steshenko
I do two things: 1) disable ALL alsa applications like 'ams', 'alsaplayer', etc., but do leave 'alsamixer' open; 2) run Skype as aoss skype . On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:30:02 +0100 Anthony Azzopardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I'm using my ES1868 with Alsa on Slackware Linux 10.2, and

Re: [Alsa-user] Skype - problem with sound device - ?

2006-01-04 Thread Sergei Steshenko
You really see no connection or just do not hear any sound ? If it is a connection (and not) sound problem, then it's a wrong forum to ask. I personally am just a Skype user anyway, so I do not know how to resolve connection problems. Netstat ? Nettop ? Skype has good forums, including Linux

Re: [Alsa-user] Skype - problem with sound device - ?

2006-01-04 Thread Sergei Steshenko
, and it's not loaded. Regards, Anthony. Firewall blocking all non-standard ports connections ? On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:02:00 +0200 Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really see no connection or just do not hear any sound ? If it is a connection (and not) sound problem

Re: [Alsa-user] Skype - problem with sound device - ?

2006-01-05 Thread Sergei Steshenko
, it was good enough for Skype. On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 01:16:00 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 16:40 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: I do two things: 1) disable ALL alsa applications like 'ams', 'alsaplayer', etc., but do leave 'alsamixer' open; 2) run

Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-05 Thread Sergei Steshenko
So, how end users are supposed to learn about ALSA ? If something exists for general public, but general public has no way of knowing it, what's the use of that potentially useful thing ? Maybe ALSA project site should contain clearly visible Ignore the documentation, ask

Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-05 Thread Sergei Steshenko
, Sergei Steshenko wrote: So, how end users are supposed to learn about ALSA ? If something exists for general public, but general public has no way of knowing it, what's the use of that potentially useful thing ? Maybe ALSA project site should contain clearly visible Ignore

Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-06 Thread Sergei Steshenko
I think this document was meant to be fixed http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intelcard=ICH+southbridge+AC97+audio.chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+ICH4%2C+ICH5%2C+ICH6module=intel8x0 . On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:14:09 + James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL

Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-06 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Lee, the note should be To James and CC to me - I mean, it was James who suggested he would update the document, I only tried to help looking for the link in earlier posts. On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:28:13 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 16:35 +0200, Sergei Steshenko

Re[2]: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
The logical idea is that the one who wrote a piece of code also maintains documentation for it. -Original Message- From: Takashi Iwai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:17:37 +0100 Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems At Fri, 6 Jan

Re[2]: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
The logical idea is that the one who wrote a piece of code also maintains documentation for it. -Original Message- From: Takashi Iwai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:17:37 +0100 Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems At Fri, 6 Jan

Re[4]: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-14 Thread Sergei Steshenko
. That is, if developers agree to write documentation, they should also agree on a way of publishing it on the web site, and in such a manner the web site will be maintained. -Original Message- From: Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:12:35 -0500

Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-16 Thread Sergei Steshenko
people. But the above means people should interact a lot to work out a mutually acceptable solution. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:52:23 +0100 Takashi Iwai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:01:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Documentation by itself is of no interest, i.e

Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-16 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:45:59 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also make sure alsa-lib and alsa-driver are the same version. Can't you developers implement a cross version checking and issue a HUGE warning in case versions do not match ? It's really sad to read this (though useful)

Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:48:23 -0800 (PST) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:36 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote: Dear all, I've got a

Re: [Alsa-user] Noise when switching from PCM to AC3 streams

2006-01-20 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Regarding Due to lack of documentaton, we are unable to set the non-audio S/PDIF bits on the interface. You are just lucky that your receiver can decode AC3 without the non-audio bit set Is there a possibility to make a snapshot of registers under Windows when the bit in question is set ?

Re: [Alsa-user] Noise when switching from PCM to AC3 streams

2006-01-20 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Even better. On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:16:54 +0100 Prakash Punnoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag Januar 20 2006 16:08 schrieb Sergei Steshenko: Regarding Due to lack of documentaton, we are unable to set the non-audio S/PDIF bits on the interface. You are just lucky that your

Re: [Alsa-user] Two sound sources and one sound card

2006-01-21 Thread Sergei Steshenko
I successfully run Skype as aoss skype . Skype is an OSS application, so one needs a special layer to make it possible to run it in a non-blocking manner. There is a relatively new application to make OSS applications non-blocking: http://fort.xdas.com/~kor/oss2jack/ - I haven't tried it

[Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-23 Thread Sergei Steshenko
We have already discussed this, here's yet another opinion: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/23/214258 - This is why we need a kernel api and abi (Score:2) by Billly Gates (198444) Alter Relationship on Tuesday January 24, @02:03AM (#14544582)

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-23 Thread Sergei Steshenko
, Sergei Steshenko wrote: We have already discussed this, here's yet another opinion: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/23/214258 - This is why we need a kernel api and abi (Score:2) by Billly Gates (198444) Alter Relationship on Tuesday January 24, @02:03AM (#14544582

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-23 Thread Sergei Steshenko
of SUSE Linux, so maybe with that support of 2.6.* comes along. On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:37:01 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:33 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: The programs are userspace. The argument of 2.4.* - 2.6.* was given by a sysadmin, I do

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-23 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Regarding kernel developers made it clear that the days of them tolerating proprietary drivers are numbered. I am sorry I do not have time at the moment to try XEN (I've already expressed this idea). The idea is: 1) in a user machine there will be at least two kernels running - the main one,

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-23 Thread Sergei Steshenko
: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:15, Sergei Steshenko wrote: The Linux developers DO NOT WANT to make it possible to write closed source drivers. Many consider it a violation of the GPL. - GPL allows to run commercial closed source programs under a GPL'ed OS. That is, it doesn't

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-23 Thread Sergei Steshenko
drive (sitting on IDE bus) and sound card (sitting on PCI bus) can and do use interrupts and DMA, so, again, why is the difference in attitude ? On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:54:26 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 04:49 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Regarding

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-23 Thread Sergei Steshenko
, are the CPUs created equal ? And are the CPU and IDE driver controller created equal ? If not, why :-) ? On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:41 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 05:12 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: 1) we have an IDE drive separated from the CPU by IDE bus

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-23 Thread Sergei Steshenko
to the one Microsoft has (is it called WHQL ?). Probably OSDL (HQ in Beaverton, OR ?) can assist in this. On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:34:29 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 05:28 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: The difference is that the driver code is executed

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:54:33 + James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergei Steshenko wrote: We have already discussed this, here's yet another opinion: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/23/214258 - This is why we need a kernel api and abi (Score:2

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:57:58 +0100 (CET) Giuliano Pochini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24-Jan-2006 Sergei Steshenko wrote: 1) we have an IDE drive separated from the CPU by IDE bus. The IDE drive runs closed-source firmware, which is in terms of the controller inside the drive still

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:57:58 +0100 (CET) Giuliano Pochini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24-Jan-2006 Sergei Steshenko wrote: 1) we have an IDE drive separated from the CPU by IDE bus. The IDE drive runs closed-source firmware, which is in terms of the controller inside the drive still

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:27:20 + James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergei Steshenko wrote: This has ZERO to do with ALSA, so why did you post it here? James Because: 1) the thread is about stable ABI, among other things; 2) because people complain HERE

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:59:14 +0100 Peter Zubaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:27:20 + James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergei Steshenko wrote: This has ZERO to do with ALSA, so why did you post it here? James Because: 1) the thread

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:14:15 +0100 Takashi Iwai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:47:47 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:42:32 +0100 Takashi Iwai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:03:45 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: P.S

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:39:06 + James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergei Steshenko wrote: Takashi, as end user I want to know nothing about alsa-lib and kernel. I want to have a website with driver per card, i.e. I want to perform only intellectualy primitive lookup

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:37:10 -0800 (PST) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:39:06 + James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we have with Linux is better than what you want. You install the Linux

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:13:35 -0800 (PST) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 09:37 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: It might be, but it in general is not. It is not possible for the average user to just recompile. He almost certainly

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:51:44 -0800 (PST) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 14:13 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: AAgrhaheh. The claim from you was that it is easy for a user to update the drivers for a new kernel, or install new

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:00:06 -0800 (PST) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 14:51 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 14:13 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: AAgrhaheh. The claim

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:23:00 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 01:06 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Again, if I remember correctly, Peter Zubaj said that ALSA developers care more about themselves and the development process than about end users. I do

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-24 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:48:37 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 January 2006 01:01, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:23:00 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 01:06 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Again, if I

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-25 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:58:42 +0100 Peter Zubaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, if I remember correctly, Peter Zubaj said that ALSA developers care more about themselves and the development process than about end users. I do not remember the exact words, but I believe that was the sense.

Re: [Alsa-user] stable APIs and ABIs

2006-01-25 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:35:05 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 January 2006 05:04, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Easy, isn't it? Don't you think the same applies to you ? If I'd be the troll, yes. Sadly, the trolls are you and Bill, so it is not on me

Re: [Alsa-user] Choosing a sound card for video playback

2006-01-25 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:28:14 + Tony Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matt Hull wrote: i think the ac3 pass though will just let mplayer take the ac3 stream from the dvd and send it to the sound card and then out the digital line. no decoding at all. i have

Re: [Alsa-user] wav files

2006-01-26 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:24:16 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The installation of gettext-devel was successfull but the integration into alsa-utils seems to be very complicate. So I switched off NLS. 'configure --disabled-nls' From this old problem to a new one. System: Linux_from_scratch

Re: [Alsa-user] snd_hda_intel - don't work

2006-01-27 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:46:52 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 10:29 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 15:01 +, Hafthor Hlynur Valdemarsson wrote: On Thursday 26. January 2006 21:11, Lee Revell

Re: [Alsa-user] SP/DIF AC3 output from stereo source?

2006-01-27 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:50:02 +0100 Philipp Taprogge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm net entirely sure if this my problem can be solved with tweaking alsa, so please direct me elsewhere if not. What I have is this: - Via EPIA Board w/ VIA VT 8233/A/8253/8273 AC97 Audio Controller - FC4

Re: [Alsa-user] [ALSA]

2006-01-31 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:35:29 -0800 (PST) Pippo Jedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, I have just installed Mandriva 2006.0 with alsa 1.0.9 it recognizes and makes the soundcard work but everytime a sound is played there are noises with the music. alsaplayer doesn't load anything

Re: [Alsa-user] No sound in bash

2006-02-01 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:22:03 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello System: Linux_from_scratch kernel 2.6.14 glibc 2.3.2 YMF744 On alsamixer the channels Master PCM Wave are open Nor 'cat musik.wav /dev/audio' neither 'cat musik.wav /dev/dsp' sounds like music. It's like a

Re: [Alsa-user] USB Uno Midi

2006-02-05 Thread Sergei Steshenko
Nigel, it turns up in ALSA list. On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 18:28:27 +0100 Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 05 February 2006 17:56, Bob van der Poel wrote: Nigel Henry wrote: snip Hi Bob. I'd try adding the following 2 option lines to your /etc/modprobe.conf. options

Re: [Alsa-user] is my Delta66 fried ?

2006-02-06 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 22:06:15 +0100 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I need you to confirm my M-Audio Delta 66 is dying (or not !). I've been using it for 3 years without problems, as soon as I had the latest BIOS version of my ABIT KT7A (VIA KT133 chipset) installed. For all these

Re: [Alsa-user] is my Delta66 fried ?

2006-02-07 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 05:07:45 +0100 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 23:36:24 +0200 Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try it in a Windows box. Thanks Sergei, but I don't have Windows (and I nearly could buy a new card for the price of it ...). Thank you

Re: [Alsa-user] Multiple dmix instances on multiple cards

2006-02-07 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:05:12 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 21:44 +0100, EmIScA wrote: But that configuration doesn't use only dmix. It uses dmix and dsnopp together with asym and gives you two software mixed and fullduplex cards. By default is it

Re: [Alsa-user] Multiple dmix instances on multiple cards

2006-02-07 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 23:35:37 +0100 EmIScA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aoss doesn't work well with skype and vmware because both use mmap access and full duplex. Skype works with aoss only with certain asound.conf settings (with a trial error method), but sometimes the audio gets mute, you can

Re: [Alsa-user] USB adapters known to work well?

2006-02-08 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:06:55 -0500 Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can anyone recommend a readily available USB audio device that's known to work well with alsa? i've tried searching forums and such, but it's hard to get much information. in my experience, that either means

Re: [Alsa-user] USB adapters known to work well?

2006-02-09 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 12:02:10 + John Haxby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Fox wrote: after visiting the edirol site, i see what you mean. i guess i should add low cost to my list of criteria. :-) I have a Griffin iMic which works perfectly.I think it does everything you want,

Re: [Alsa-user] USB adapters known to work well?

2006-02-11 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:47:39 + John Haxby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 12:02:10 + John Haxby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Griffin iMic which works perfectly.I think it does everything you want, it's also cheap: mine

Re: [Alsa-user] Re: [PlanetCCRMA] valid port for jackrec ?

2006-02-17 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:30:25 -0600 David Slimp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HA!Thanks. :) I think I tried just about EVERY other binary in that package other than that one! However, now it's failing due to overruns, and telling me to pick a bigger buffer (which I now have tried up to -B

Re: [Alsa-user] plughw: solution for jackd/emi26 crackles?

2006-02-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:46:05 + karlos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I would like to have the crackles disappear that make my emi26 and jackd an unhappy couple. using alsa the emi works fine. I read in a forum that it might be possible to write something in .asoundrc to fix this,

Re: [Alsa-user] Re: plughw: solution for jackd/emi26 crackles?

2006-02-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:01:21 + karlos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you mean, because of xruns? there aren't any, when I playing back sound. I mean, maybe I should do that anyway, but I am sure its not xruns I hear. K On 2/22/06, Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22

Re: [Alsa-user] how to record a streaming broadcast?

2006-02-27 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:53:42 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to record to a file an on-line streaming bradcast while I'm at work so I can listen to it whene I come back home. It's broadcasted through a Macromedia Flash Player object in a HTML page and there is no

Re: [Alsa-user] arecord under 2.6.15.4-rt17 -overruns...

2006-03-04 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 14:32:35 +0100 (CET) Guennadi Liakhovetski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Lee Revell wrote: So the scheduler is OK. Try it with the standard kernel. Same You may need to go back through previous kernel version to identify exactly when it broke.

Re: [Alsa-user] MP#, anyone?

2006-03-12 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:48:40 -0600 Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have a clue as to where a copy of the ONE FILE libmp3lame.so can be downloaded? I searched using Google and Ask Jeeves, and all I get is other people posting the same query, but no responses posted which provide

Re: [Alsa-user] Skype

2006-03-21 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:32:33 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid the well known Skype+aoss problems may be unfixable from the ALSA side. It appears that the Skype binary is self modifying and takes extensive measures to make sure it is not being run in a debugger or

Re: [Alsa-user] Skype

2006-03-21 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:54:50 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 03:40 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: But it used to work with 'aoss'. Yes, it works now on some hardware. What Skype/aoss versions and driver was this, and what was the version where

Re: [Alsa-user] Skype

2006-03-21 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:52:56 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 08:15 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: There aren't that many bug reports of mine, it says something like 'aoss + skype' and it's about a lot of error messages regarding inability to control

[Alsa-user] QEMU + Mepis 3.4.3 + Skype

2006-03-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:32:33 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid the well known Skype+aoss problems may be unfixable from the ALSA side. It appears that the Skype binary is self modifying and takes extensive measures to make sure it is not being run in a debugger or

Re: [Alsa-user] Interpolation

2006-03-27 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:16:07 +0200 Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reinhold Jordan wrote: I have a problem with sound-quality. For testing I have generate a sine as wave-file with 1 kHz signal and 8 kHz sampling rate. If I play this file with aplay sine.wav the signal is

Re: [Alsa-user] Interpolation

2006-03-27 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:59:22 +0200 Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergei Steshenko wrote: Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ALSA's rate plugin currently is limited to linear interpolation, too, so you would have to add a better resampler to it. Can't you guys (ALSA

Re: [Alsa-user] Interpolation

2006-03-30 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:06:10 +0200 Takashi Iwai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:59:22 +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: Sergei Steshenko wrote: Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ALSA's rate plugin currently is limited to linear interpolation, too, so you would

Re: [Alsa-user] How to use Surroundsound with alsa??

2006-04-01 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:41:20 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 16:55 +0200, Marcel Witte wrote: - with -dplug:dmix51 : AlsaPlayer 0.99.76 (C) 1999-2003 Andy Lo A Foe [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others. ALSA lib pcm.c:6648:(snd_pcm_slave_conf)

Re: [Alsa-user] How to use Surroundsound with alsa??

2006-04-01 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:15:36 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 20:57 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Humans (end users) are supposed to answer this question by looking at the output of some Linux utilities. The distro's init scripts/modutils/hotplug/udev

Re: New Card (was Re: [Alsa-user] static)

2006-04-07 Thread Sergei Steshenko
OK, I put in the SB Live card. It has the emu10k1 chip on it alsaconf still won't see the card. Slackware 10.2 standard install alsa-driver-1.0.9b Any Ideas what could be going on? SB-live has worked for years with ALSA. I'd suggest to download MEPIS 3.4.3 (LiveCD/installable

Re: New Card (was Re: [Alsa-user] static)

2006-04-07 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: OK, I put in the SB Live card. It has the emu10k1 chip on it alsaconf still won't see the card. Slackware 10.2 standard install alsa-driver-1.0.9b Any Ideas

Re: [Alsa-user] echoaudio drivers in kernel

2006-04-10 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:07:34 +0100 philicorda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 10:46 +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: philicorda wrote: Can anyone tell me why the echoaudio drivers are not in the ALSA version that comes with the Linux kernel? New drivers are tested in the

Re: [Alsa-user] recording with multiple applications from different channels of the same card?

2006-04-12 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:11:44 +0200 Ákos Maróy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Takashi Iwai wrote: The default format for dsnoop is S16, and ice1712 supports only S32_LE. You have to set the format parameter in slave pcm of dsnoop, too. thanks, now it works! Akos

Re: [Alsa-user] recording with multiple applications from different channels of the same card?

2006-04-12 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:38:00 +0200 Takashi Iwai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:24:52 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:11:44 +0200 Ákos Maróy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Takashi Iwai wrote: The default format for dsnoop is S16, and ice1712

Re: [Alsa-user] recording with multiple applications from different channels of the same card?

2006-04-12 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:36:26 +0200 Takashi Iwai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, then you've never seen errors from g++ :) Takashi I saw - at the time I was just learning C++. And I managed to understand them and fix my errors. I vaguely remember what they were - lately I've been working

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:47:33 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 21:14 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: And what about putting the answer on ALSA documentation site - it's an FAQ IMHO. Because it's too complicated for average users and would lead to more

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:09:30 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: a) doesn't ALSA support LADSPA ? b) does ALSA config language support insertion of LADSPA plugins into only one channel (LFE in this case) ? Sure it does

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:59:02 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:45 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: I don't understand .asoundrc syntax well enough to create one You make it sound like this is trivial functionality - it's not! Lots of work by alsa-lib

Re: [Alsa-user] SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit

2006-04-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:17:39 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 23:11 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: The main point of my reply was to suggest the developers not invent languages in case the existing ones can serve the purpose. Relying on existing

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