[amsat-bb] Round-world APRS balloons still flying!

2014-08-19 Thread Robert Bruninga
As of today those 3 APRS balloons launched in the UK are still flying after more than 3 weeks! Amazing.. One of them over alaska has gone round the world more than 1.5 times, the other two are over Japan and approaching 1.5 orbits.

[amsat-bb] LEO Flight Opportunity NOW?

2014-08-07 Thread Robert Bruninga
If you can make a flight ready amateur payload with some kind of educational association in the next 3 months, there is a ride. You get a temperature controlled 0-60C flat plate about 4 by 7 and 28v power on the outside of a large free-flyer. The bad news is that the mission is low LEO so maybe

Re: [amsat-bb] Equatorial Crossing Data (EQX) (easy predictions)

2014-08-01 Thread Robert Bruninga
Actually, using simple pass-times, it is possible to predict with a simple pencil, all future pass times for several weeks. Every satelite REPEATs their daily ground track every few days or so. AO51 repeated every 5 days, and GO32 every 9. These were sun synchronous and so not only the ground

Re: [amsat-bb] Current Launch Costs From Spaceflight

2014-08-01 Thread Robert Bruninga
Can some explain to me and others the big deal about cube sats? I just dont get it. Standardization! But the real payoff from standardization is REDUCED RISK to the launch provider. Instead of having to micromanage every detail of satellite design so that the launch provider can GURARANTEE

[amsat-bb] Round-the-world M0XER-4

2014-07-31 Thread Robert Bruninga
That is why I want so much to continue the 145.825 digipeater on as many satellites as we can*. But we can’t seem to inspire any of the other HUNDREDS of satellite building groups to consider it. I think there were over 100 cubesats launched last year. None with 145.825 APRS… *(and

Re: [amsat-bb] Round-the-world M0XER-4

2014-07-31 Thread Robert Bruninga
Trevor, The M0XER-4 (I thought) did frequency shifting (APRS 144 MHz national channels over Europe and the US), and so I thought it had more complexity. The image shown on the link below only has 434 MHz antennas, no obvious GPS and no VHF antennas. Can you clarify and help us get an idea of

[amsat-bb] Loss of Cubesat Designer?

2014-07-29 Thread Robert Bruninga
I heard part of something on the news about one of the victims of the Aircraft shootdown in the Ukraine was a young Aerospace engineer working on a design for a constellation of cubesats for low cost communication with individuals on the ground. Sounds like a HAMsat project to me. Anyone know

Re: [amsat-bb] Digital Satellites Question

2014-07-28 Thread Robert Bruninga
The biggest load in a communications satellite is almost always the downlink RF power amplifier(s)... True for some, not true for others. The locations of ham operators are only about 10% of the earths surface. 90% of transmitter power can be saved if the transmitter is not left on 100%

[amsat-bb] Round-world balloon approaching Noth America M0XER-3

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Bruninga
Regarding real LOW Earth “orbits”, G6UIM reports a Balloon launched in the UK is approaching Washington state from across Asia and the Pacific right now. See: http://spacenear.us/tracker/ look for Balloon B-63 It is being well received by the APRS network in Canada, Washington and Oregon as it

Re: [amsat-bb] Inclusion (satcoms?)

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Bruninga
But if the goal of satellite operation is from the shack-potato position, why not just use the internet and not bother. Don't forget the TOTAL FAILURE of the original SAT-PHONE industry when they ignored cellphones and fiber. No one would bother with a sat-phone when their $9/mo cell phone could

Re: [amsat-bb] ANS-199 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AMSAT Fox-1C Launch Opportunity Announced

2014-07-20 Thread Robert Bruninga
/19/2014 09:23 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: I cannot believe that. The equilibrium of a nominally black (solar panels on all sides) spacecraft is something like about 0 to 30 C (32F to 90F) a very benign operational range. The only time you DO have thermal issues is when you DO have attitude

Re: [amsat-bb] ANS-199 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AMSAT Fox-1C Launch Opportunity Announced

2014-07-20 Thread Robert Bruninga
:59 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ANS-199 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AMSAT Fox-1C Launch Opportunity Announced On 07/19/2014 09:23 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: I cannot believe that. The equilibrium of a nominally black (solar panels on all sides) spacecraft is something like about 0

Re: [amsat-bb] ANS-199 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AMSAT Fox-1C Launch Opportunity Announced

2014-07-20 Thread Robert Bruninga
Karn k...@ka9q.net wrote: On 07/19/2014 09:23 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: I cannot believe that. The equilibrium of a nominally black (solar panels on all sides) spacecraft is something like about 0 to 30 C (32F to 90F) a very benign operational range. The only time you DO have thermal

Re: [amsat-bb] ANS-199 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AMSAT Fox-1C Launch Opportunity Announced

2014-07-19 Thread Robert Bruninga
The lack of attitude control forces us to use simple omnidirectional antennas, which in turn keeps us on the crowded and narrow VHF/UHF bands. Worse, there's really no such thing as an omnidirectional antenna so our links are plagued by frequent deep fades of unlimited (or at least unknown)

[amsat-bb] IEEE Conference on Wireless for Space (neitherlands) seeks papers (APRS?)

2014-07-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
If anyone in Europe wants to submit a paper on APRS and other AX.25 satellite relay, this conference might be a good match. We like to think of the 145.825 AMSATs as a continuum of remote-data access for student experiments and remote data access… - IEEE Conference on

[amsat-bb] Recordings of FO29 Field Day passband...?

2014-06-25 Thread Robert Bruninga
I have been asked by ICOM to webcast field day this year. Unrelated, but it would be great if someone with a good satcom station recorded the passband of FO29. Not so much to get individual QSO's but to grasp what a full wideband transponder can carry. IE, tune the passband from one end to the

Re: [amsat-bb] Cub Scout Space Camp Theme

2014-05-26 Thread Robert Bruninga
A far less complex and easy to do transmitter hunt is simply bring along a bunch of FRS radios. Put a rubber band and some aluminum foil around one of them to key it and make it very low power (carrier only). With a range only sufficent to barely cover the venue (weak signal at the starting

Re: [amsat-bb] Appearing on http://www.ariss.net/

2014-05-26 Thread Robert Bruninga
The beacon while-unattended into a very valuable limited channel such as the ISS and PCSAT digipeaters are disappointing to me. The purpose of the APRS digipeaters in space are for humans to contact humans, or for the rare -out-in-the-atlantic or Pacific lone traveler or experiment. The

[amsat-bb] Driving to Dayton (Voice Alert)

2014-05-14 Thread Robert Bruninga
Driving to Dayton: For AMSAT guys, even if you don’t have an APRS radio, set an HT in your car to 144.39 with CTCSS 100 and the speaker will be 100% quiet unless there is an APRS mobile in simplex range, and then you will hear his CQ once a minute. If you hear one, then he is in SIMPLEX range

[amsat-bb] Balloon Found (and OOps!)

2014-05-03 Thread Robert Bruninga
Crowded Air space today over PA! Saturday morning, launched the Naval Academy Balloon (W3ADO-11) from Harpers FY and noticed two other balloons launched about the same time (W3EAX-9 and 11) about 40 miles north. All was going fine until... Our sincere apologies to MD, VA, PA, DE and NJ! At

[amsat-bb] Re: HELP

2014-04-25 Thread Robert Bruninga
deciding if I should buy a new AZ/EL rotator mine current one is 15yrs old and dead. For all current Amateur Satellites, elevation control is not needed 98% of the time. If you are willing to give up the 2%, you can operate with a manual $70 azimuth only TV rotator instead of a $500 full AZ/EL

[amsat-bb] Re: Balloon lost near Shrewsbury, PA (FOUND!)

2014-04-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
have the payload intact, we may try again in the next weeks or so. Bob, WB4APR *From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruni...@usna.edu] *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 10:48 AM *To:* aprs...@tapr.org; a...@yahoogroups.com *Cc:* amsat-bb@amsat.org; k...@usna.edu *Subject:* Balloon lost near Shrewsbury

[amsat-bb] Balloon lost near Shrewsbury, PA

2014-04-07 Thread Robert Bruninga
Short Story. The balloon is lost near Shrewsbury, PA. But we are sure (now after post processing) that we know where it is within about an acre. See: http://aprs.org/balloons.html Premature burst (or separation) caused the payload to descend at over 5000 feet per minute slowing to 4000'/min

[amsat-bb] Balloon launch SUnday Southern PA

2014-04-05 Thread Robert Bruninga
Balloon chase Sunday morning, Southern PA: Should hear it over all Midatantic states! Our balloon will be launched near Chambersburg, PA 9 AM? and will fly across southern PA landing somehwehre near Newark, DE. It will fly faster than the launch team, so we hope other hams will get to the

[amsat-bb] Re: Ferrite RFI filters and Traps? (yes!)

2014-04-03 Thread Robert Bruninga
I cut the RFI Ferrite blobs off of all trash Keyboards and stuff. These are great Ferrite devices. But what are they best for? Check out this article from Chuck Councilman W1HIS: http://www.yccc.org/Articles/W1HIS/CommonModeChokesW1HIS2006Apr06.pdf Wow, a long one, but on page 24 of 42 I

[amsat-bb] PCSAT Spin rate still 0.6 RPM

2014-04-03 Thread Robert Bruninga
For what it's worth: PCSAT is still maintaining a 0.6 RPM spin about the Z axis. Today for fun, we commanded PCSAT and got 4 minutes of 10 second data. During 100 seconds it completed 1 revolution which equates to 0.6 RPM, the same rate as 13 years ago. From that we conclude that our

[amsat-bb] Ferrite RFI filters and Traps?

2014-04-02 Thread Robert Bruninga
I cut the RFI Ferrite blobs off of all trash Keyboards and stuff. These are great Ferrite devices. But what are they best for? IE, 1) are they intentionally lossy or are they High Q? and 2) What is their Optimium Frequency range (all ferrite torroid coil forms come in a variety of materials

[amsat-bb] Re: Es'HailSat-2

2014-03-23 Thread Robert Bruninga
Is that the zero degree horizon footprint or the more usual 10 degree footprint? Bob, Wb4aPR On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Håkan Harrysson sm7...@telia.com wrote: Hello! If you want to see how footprint looks from 26 degrees east you can have a look on Picture at

[amsat-bb] Cubesat 1 axis attitude control?

2014-02-20 Thread Robert Bruninga
Need an AMSAT greybeard with attitude control experience. We want to use only one magnetorguer coil (a Z coil) to more or less keep our Z axis aligned with the Earth's axis (+/-30 deg) We figure if we energize the Z coil only twice per orbit while over the equator where the Earth's magnetic

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
...@8p6sm.net wrote: On 02/08/2014 09:24 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: Any ham... to collect this content simply puts his 9600 bd radio listing to that repeaer INPUT to join the net! An AP runs together building a buffer of that 70 Mbytes of ham radio content per day, which

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-08 Thread Robert Bruninga
Already Ham Radio has the technology, bandwidth, and evreything needed to implement distribution of over 70 megabytes of Ham Radio data to every mobile and handheld operator every day. That's a lot of content. And the frequencies exist, and the sites exist. THink about it. Every single VOICE

[amsat-bb] Possible Balloon launch in VA 8 Feb?

2014-02-02 Thread Robert Bruninga
Sure would had liked advanced notice on this. A project we would have enjoyed doing. I have some students planning a possible launch in Northern VA sometime this coming weekend. Probably Saturday. Wont know details until the day before. Intent is to predict the path the morning of, and then

[amsat-bb] Fwd: [APRS] URGENT HELP NEEDED IN EASTERN VIRGINIA

2014-02-01 Thread Robert Bruninga
Balloon near Richomnd headed east at 60 MPH. See it on http://aprs.fi/k4wcu-11 and copy it on 144.39 APRS. I'm hearing it direct over 170 miles away in Baltimore. -- Forwarded message -- From: PaulY p...@mtnlist.com Date: Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 1:30 PM Subject: [APRS] URGENT HELP

[amsat-bb] DTMF on HF?

2014-01-10 Thread Robert Bruninga
Has anyone had any experience with any success at DTMF working on HF for some rudimentary commands? I know tuning is critical as well as inter-tone noise must be way down. Just thought maybe someone has experimented with it. Bob, WB4aPR ___ Sent

[amsat-bb] Re: LEO-satellites-antennas... ?

2014-01-06 Thread Robert Bruninga
I think the QFH throws most of the energy straight up (broad pattern, but not a lot at the low elevation angles). Or another way to look at it, is that satellites at low elevations angles are 10 dB farther away so they will always be weaker by a factor of 10 to 1 to high elevations. Bob, WB4APR

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-73 Question (mode efficiency?)

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Bruninga
The satellite is only in transponder mode when it is in eclipse.. In full sunlight it is in beacon mode only. Just curious about the overall design goals of this operating mode? Putting solar energy into and then taking it out of batteries suffers about a 30% loss in efficiency. All else being

[amsat-bb] Re: Mystery Satellite Question

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Bruninga
Yes, that was UO-11 Comes back to life every now and then and has a LOUD downlink on 145.825 but it is not AX.25 packet. Bob, WB4APR -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave Marthouse Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 11:39

[amsat-bb] Re: satellite average elevation new birds

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Bruninga
... asking Bob to comment on his earlier thoughts on using antennae at fixed elevations? The geometry of LEO satellites has not changed. The optimum angle for a fixed tilt modest gain YAGI is about 15 degrees (assuming you have a decent horizon). See: http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html That

[amsat-bb] Re: General Telemetry Question (PITFALL!)

2013-12-11 Thread Robert Bruninga
To follow up on Bob's comment. If you send the raw analog sensor data... Change calibration values if found to be wrong after launch... We did on PCSAT! Caution to Satellite Builders: Be careful when using an EXCEL TREND LINE equation for doing Engineering Unit conversion back to original

[amsat-bb] Re: General Telemetry Question

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
Answer: Engineering efficiency.. There is far more computing power on the ground than the satellite. Also, KISS principle. Also, calibration can be done without modifying flight code. And finally, it is far more compact to send binary or hex than human readable decimal. Bob, WB4aPR

[amsat-bb] DragonSat - new test (SSB)

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
Nothing heard from DragonSat on 145.870. (9600 baud AX.25) A crude test of a Dragonsat model with the antenna un-released was still radiating on the order of 26 to 36 dB down. From now on, instead of FM, we are going to listen with an SSB receiver and see if we hear the 30 second chirps.

[amsat-bb] EZnec experts? (cubesat Circ Antenna)

2013-12-06 Thread Robert Bruninga
EZnec kibitzers welcome: See this model image: http://aprs.org/psat/VHF-circ-tuned-ask.gif We are placing two ¼ wave VHF whip antennas on a single feed at the corner of a 1.5U cubesat. We want them +/-45 degrees out of phase so that we get cross polarization when paralleled to a single

[amsat-bb] Re: EZnec experts? (cubesat Circ Antenna)(oops)

2013-12-06 Thread Robert Bruninga
OOPS, One error I made is confusing R+j45 ohms as “45 degrees”, when +45 degrees is really R+jR… Right? So I am now starting over. Ignore my post until I fix it and repost the results. Bob --- EZnec kibitzers welcome: See this

[amsat-bb] Re: EZnec experts? (cubesat Circ Antenna) (corrected)

2013-12-06 Thread Robert Bruninga
EZnec kibitzers welcome: (corrected version) See this model image: http://aprs.org/psat/VHF-circ-tuned-ask.gif We are placing two ¼ wave VHF whip antennas on a single feed at the corner of a 1.5U cubesat. We want them +/-45 degrees out of phase so that we get cross polarization when

[amsat-bb] CAPE cubesat spinning?

2013-11-26 Thread Robert Bruninga
At 1748z today 26 Nov, in Maryland, I heard what sounded like a solid carrier on 145.825 Cape frequency with clear spin modulation. It was right on schedule with the other Wallops launch birds. Like I said, sounded like a carrier only, so the spin modulation of the antenna was very obvious.

[amsat-bb] Re: Multiple satellite launches

2013-11-25 Thread Robert Bruninga
Ø When there is a launch of several satellites in a single payload, several cubesats for example, I assume they release each at different locations on the deployer trajectory. Preliminary keps are based on the trajectory when each is released? Ø Otherwise if they were released all at once,

[amsat-bb] Re: Multiple satellite launches (rates?)

2013-11-25 Thread Robert Bruninga
The following link is of Picodragon and 2 other satellites being released from ISS. There is a picture and short video. http://amsat-uk.org/tag/picodragon/ Looking at the video, my uncalibrated eyeball counts the deployment rate at about ½ meter per second? Ie, in the first second of

[amsat-bb] Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM

2013-11-20 Thread Robert Bruninga
We are hearing some interesting things from CAPE, one of the Cubesats from Wallops. We are hearing 1 minute AX.25 telemetry, and we have heard two Voice tests, and it has a CW message. All three modes in a Cubesat and on the APRS 145.825 downlink... neat. The voice might be DSB? And we are

[amsat-bb] Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM

2013-11-18 Thread Robert Bruninga
Watch for a dozen new cubesats Tuesday from Wallops at about 7:30 PM. I have seen a lot of email about Funcube, but haven’t seen much about the Wallops launch. All of them downlink on 435 MHz band except for Naval Academy downlinkning on 145.870. Seven downlinks are at 9600 baud, one at

[amsat-bb] Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM

2013-11-18 Thread Robert Bruninga
-- On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Robert Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu wrote: Watch for a dozen new cubesats Tuesday from Wallops at about 7:30 PM. I have seen a lot of email about Funcube, but haven’t seen much about the Wallops launch. All of them downlink on 435 MHz band

[amsat-bb] RF, another alternate energy technology (hogwash)

2013-11-08 Thread Robert Bruninga
A fellow came to me convinced that capturing RF energy from cell phones, and radio and TV waves was free energy. He couldn’t wait to invest in these pocket sized antennas that have achieved the same 37% energy reception efficiencies as do the most expensive solar cells:.

[amsat-bb] Helix matching

2013-09-27 Thread Robert Bruninga
Why don’t we see simple ¼ wave 75 ohm lines used as a first step in matching a 140 Ohm Helix to 50 ohms? The ¼ wave line would give an easy 112 ohms and then it shouldn’t be that hard to do a little additional construction matching to get to 140? (building a 2.4 GHz pop-out helix that

[amsat-bb] Re: Odd Question (answer)

2013-09-24 Thread Robert Bruninga
When the Earth image is about 4 across (8,000km), and the satellites are one pixel across (say .001) then each dot is actually to scale a spacecraft that is 8km wide. Which is about 8000 times bigger in diameter than a real spacecraft. So what you are seeing is what space would look like if

[amsat-bb] Re: Odd Question (answer-fixed)

2013-09-24 Thread Robert Bruninga
OOPS... Corrected... --- When the Earth image is about 4 across (8,000km), and the satellites are one pixel across (say .001) then each dot is actually to scale a spacecraft that is 2km wide. Which is about 4000 times bigger in diameter than a real spacecraft. So what you are

[amsat-bb] Linear Transponder Needed for Launch Opportunity

2013-09-20 Thread Robert Bruninga
If someone will build a linear PSK-31 transponder, I have a launch opportunity in 9 months. All it needs to be is a PSK31 Linear receiver on 28.120 MHz (3 KHz bandwidth) with AGC coupled to a downlink UHF FM transmitter of about 1 Watt. Should fit on a 3.5 square card. This is the same as Brno

[amsat-bb] A0 40 replacement (PSK31-Best of FM and Linear!)

2013-09-05 Thread Robert Bruninga
As long as AMSAT-NA needs to concentrate on... Cubesats... I would really like to see the pursuit of linear transponders... on them instead of single-channel FM repeaters. We can have the best of BOTH FM and Linear! But we used to use a ucc1 in the navy to receive messages.

[amsat-bb] Re: High orbit satellites?

2013-08-30 Thread Robert Bruninga
Amen, Just go to the biggest SmallSat conference on earth at the annual AIAA/USU conference in Utah. Unlike AMSAT, the registration is $600 each, and it lasts 6 days and all 500 to 1000 attendees are fully into Small Cubesat like missions. And very expensive instruments. Every space related

[amsat-bb] APRS Destination Address for satellites

2013-08-23 Thread Robert Bruninga
APRS has standardized an ID series for amateur Oscar spacecraft. APOxxx. At the request of Juan Carlos, LU9DO, AMSAT-LUwanted a series of APRS designators for uniquely identifying AMSAT APRS applications. He suggested those beginning with the letter O for OSCARS. ALL APRS applications include

[amsat-bb] Re: Non-mechanical feedback follow up

2013-08-10 Thread Robert Bruninga
Just to clarify, the time tracking works just as well for the elevation rotor. You can see my balloon chasing 2.4 GHz antenna on my van here: http://aprs.org/balloons.html about 1/3rd down the page (the second balloon mission). But it used a full Yaesu AZ/EL system so I did have feedback. My

[amsat-bb] Re: magnetic reed switches f(not really needed)

2013-08-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
These motors run at a nearly constant rate. ALl you have to do to know position is to keep track of the time they are on. It remains calibated because at the end of every pass (it ends at zero elevation) so you konw you are at 0 (include say a 10% overshoot after the pass to be sure it is at 0).

[amsat-bb] 1/2 Wave cavity filter design?

2013-07-21 Thread Robert Bruninga
Given the classic 1/2 wave cavity filter, what is the relationship between inner cavity and center conductor sizes? Of course bigger is better, but what is OK. This is a 1/2 wavelength tube with a center conductor shorted at each end. The input is loop coupled at one end, an output is loop

[amsat-bb] Re: APRS Twitter

2013-07-10 Thread Robert Bruninga
CAPE-2 ... [is] planning to fly a digipeater... I am currently developing software to distribute to you guys later this year that will copy our telemetry and have it automatically sent back to us. I hope your telemetry is APRS compatible so that it can also be distributed by the global

[amsat-bb] Solar Impulse flying up Jersey Coast NOW

2013-07-06 Thread Robert Bruninga
Solar Impulse flying up Jersey Coast NOW (9 AM Saturday). Need an APRS operator to watch position on http://live.solarimpulse.com/ and then maintain an active object on APRS RF so that all mobiles can see the aircraft on their mobile radios and be able to lookup and see it. Its the size of a 747

[amsat-bb] Golden Packet 20 July gaps: Killington, VT and Smokie Mountain!

2013-07-05 Thread Robert Bruninga
, WB4APR *From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruni...@usna.edu] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:32 PM *To:* amsat-bb@amsat.org; aprs...@tapr.org; a...@yahoogroups.com *Cc:* bruni...@usna.edu *Subject:* Golden Packet 20 July gaps: NH, MA, NY, NC/TN We have an urgent need for Ham Packet Ops on mountain

[amsat-bb] Re: [APRS] Golden Packet 20 July gaps: NH, MA, NY, NC/TN

2013-07-03 Thread Robert Bruninga
WHy only those 3 radios? Cannot any 2m rig with any [TNC] or one of their other devices, or even a venerable kpc3+, digipeat? Yes, but it is all about risk. Generallly, 90% of all packet radio/TNC's on the air are misconfigured in someway or another. It has been this way for the last 40 years

[amsat-bb] Golden Packet 20 July gaps: NH, MA, NY, NC/TN

2013-07-02 Thread Robert Bruninga
We have an urgent need for Ham Packet Ops on mountain tops in New Hampshire, Mount Greylock, MA, Sams Point, NY, Clingmans Dome in the Smokie Mountains and Roan Mountain NC. This is a 4 hour event making our annual attempt at the Golden Packet, an APRS packet message from Maine to Georgia along

[amsat-bb] Re: Sub orbital launch from Wallops Island Virgina

2013-06-19 Thread Robert Bruninga
A Sub orbital launch from Wallops Island.. some of you... with high gain 2 meter antennas and possibly elevation control (depending on where you are- approx 70 miles elevation at apogee) will give a listen for it Assuming the ground track is out to sea for range safety, then I would assume

[amsat-bb] Solar Impulse: Dallas to St. Louis in flight!

2013-06-03 Thread Robert Bruninga
Solar Powered flight is underway from Dallas to St. Louis. See the flight. http://live.solarimpulse.com/ We need APRS operators in RF range to help maintain an OBJECT track on the bird so that not just those in front of a PC can see this, but also those hams in their APRS mobiles who will

[amsat-bb] Re: Is there anyway to get a linear transponder on the ISS? (PSK31)

2013-05-31 Thread Robert Bruninga
The nicest configuration... would be a 2m FM uplink with CTCSS to avoid interference and a SSB 10m downlink. The problem with that is the same as all our other FM satellites. Only a single user at a time. Congestion, conflict and little practical value. The better use of SSB is to use the

[amsat-bb] Re: Is there anyway to get a linear transponder on the ISS?

2013-05-30 Thread Robert Bruninga
if there were a real ham on the ISS things would be different. Yep, then nothing would get done. All he would do is float around and complain about all the things that everyone else should be doing. Bob, WB4APR ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org.

[amsat-bb] Re: a cheap LEO tracker for single op

2013-05-28 Thread Robert Bruninga
I found my old web page with graphics that shows the exact geometry of passes and elevations. See http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html 70% of all pass times are below 22 degrees. After the discussion a few weeks ago, I sat down today to begin building a web page on the topic and when I went to

[amsat-bb] Up-tilted beams (15 degree optimum)

2013-05-14 Thread Robert Bruninga
are also on the horizon? On 5/13/2013 11:29 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: As has been said many times, most satellite passes are never directly overhead, but rather on some inclination across the sky. A 5 element yagi antenna, at a 35 degree angle from the horizon, with only an asmuth rotator

[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (range gain)

2013-05-13 Thread Robert Bruninga
One needs to also realize duration. The time say above 70 degree elevation (where rates are highest) are less than 2% of the total pass times. Not worth worrying about. Similarly, a LEO satellite spends 70% of its time below about 22 degrees. (but it is far away and needs max gain). So simply

[amsat-bb] Re: J-Pole Antenna

2013-05-13 Thread Robert Bruninga
As has been said many times, most satellite passes are never directly overhead, but rather on some inclination across the sky. A 5 element yagi antenna, at a 35 degree angle from the horizon, with only an asmuth rotator, will let you work far more satellites for the money spent. Except that

[amsat-bb] Re: J-Pole Antenna

2013-05-13 Thread Robert Bruninga
The antenna, that I want to build, is described in a paper (probably 20 years old) by Dick, WD4FAB, titled 'Antennas for microsat ground stations', and the paper describes the large time, a LEO remains at low elevations - about 76 % below 20 degrees - and then concludes, that this is fine for

[amsat-bb] Re: Path to HEO

2013-04-29 Thread Robert Bruninga
Going from 310 to 700km in a year is not doing us anything. Im not following this closely, but that statement misses the most important reason for doing this... *to*stay*in*orbit! The lifetime of a cubesat at 310km is only a few weeks at most. The life time at 700km is tens of years. The

[amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube Project - 7 dBi omni

2013-04-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
... which is going to be the best type of antenna... to receive the 145MHz downlink signals There are lots of good hemispherical satellite antennas that provide equal gain for all satellites in view. However, these designs ignore the fact that satellites on the horizon (LEO passes spend almost

[amsat-bb] Re: Radio-Archeology (xponder?)

2013-02-27 Thread Robert Bruninga
LES1 (I think) has a bent-pipe transponder for military UHF (250 MHz area). I wonder if the billion to one chance that the transponder came on too? Bob, WB4aPR -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Alan Sent: Wednesday,

[amsat-bb] Re: Close encounters of the Asteroidal Kind

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Bruninga
I wonder what 435kw at 28,000 km will do to the surface temperature on that rock? Let's see, power goes down as 1/R squared. So lets compare it to a candle. A candle is about 50 Watts or about (435000/50W) or about 10,000 times less power. Take the square root of that to get about 100/th the

[amsat-bb] PCSAT normal(?) operations resume

2013-02-05 Thread Robert Bruninga
:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruni...@usna.edu] *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:53 AM *To:* amsat-bb@amsat.org *Cc:* aprs...@tapr.org; a...@yahoogroups.com; bruni...@usna.edu *Subject:* QRT all PCSAT transmissions! Please QRT all transmissions to PCsat to save power for COMMANDing. PCSAT

[amsat-bb] PCSAT batteries!

2013-02-02 Thread Robert Bruninga
,what kind of battery is install on this kind of satellite? how does it react in the cold space where it is? We placed the batteries in the middle of the satellite. It is quite immune to the +90C and -100C possible fluctuations on (unattached) solar panels (if they were not attached to the

[amsat-bb] QRT all PCSAT transmissions!

2013-01-31 Thread Robert Bruninga
Please QRT all transmissions to PCsat to save power for COMMANDing. PCSAT (W3ADO-1) is entering its 3 day RECOVERY window this year starting 31 Jan. Today we got logged on for commanding twice, but both times user packets killed the bird. At best PCSAT can usually only save up enough

[amsat-bb] Re: Limited capabilities now on www.amsat.org

2013-01-23 Thread Robert Bruninga
Please let me know what you miss the most (via amsat-bb or directly) and I will attempt move it higher on the priority list. This week (thursday) I have about 30 students doing the one-day satellite tracking lab. The lab document calls for them to look at their selected satellite on the AMSAT

[amsat-bb] Bleebsats wanted

2013-01-22 Thread Robert Bruninga
Help me delete the dead satellites. Help me add new Bleepsats. We use this list in our Comms Labs for students to try to tune in: * marks the operational ones from http://oscar.dcarr.org/index.php ? marks the unknown and need input from you. * 07530 AO7 145.950 ? 20442 LO19

[amsat-bb] Re: Packet Contact

2012-12-18 Thread Robert Bruninga
where is the contact? that just shows that both were able to copy each other. But they exchanged a QSL and both got the original exchange info from each other. On a shared single channel resource, we should be concerned with contact efficiency. This takes 16 packets for 8x8 or a total of 64

[amsat-bb] TH-D72 APRS HT's

2012-12-17 Thread Robert Bruninga
For any AMSAT folks have TH-D72’s: We are looking for as many D72 owners that live within a few hours of Mammoth Cave, KY to join in a significant cave-radio experiment on 2-3 March 2013 to demonstrate VHF/UHF cave radio “texting” and status reporting. The D72’s can automatically relay

[amsat-bb] ISS Tracking info on your APRS Radio

2012-12-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
KJ4ERJ's satserver will send you live tracking data to your APRS radio anywhere, anytime. Just send an APRS message to ISS from any APRS radio (on the national APRS channel) and if you are in range of the global APRS network (an IGate nearby), then it will respond with the time to AOS and the

[amsat-bb] Re: APRS Balloon antenna tracking

2012-10-23 Thread Robert Bruninga
And where on the planet might this local event be? A balloon can have a range of 400 miles or so. Lots of us can watch if we know what part of the planet this might be in... -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of David Julian

[amsat-bb] APRS for JOTA, Everywhere!

2012-10-19 Thread Robert Bruninga
Use your APRS radio for global contacts at your JOTA station. You can use your APRS radio or HT to text message a CQ to all other JOTA stations with an APRS radio anywhere in the world. You need to remember nothing about the network, or paths, or freqs or do any set up. Just use the normal APRS

[amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video

2012-10-17 Thread Robert Bruninga
Wow, a narrow self centric view of the world: a huge trend to build more and more of these shoe boxes.. ... most of them are almost useless... What kind of science is it,... The wheels are re-invented again and again... For us AMSAT'ers.. this is something we did almost 30 years ago

[amsat-bb] Re: Skydiving Mission in Progress Now

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Bruninga
the record breaking skydive mission is currently in progress. tune to: http://www.redbullstratos.com Also tracking an object on APRS called STRTOS-11. See http://aprs.fi/strtos-11 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the

[amsat-bb] Re: [APRS] Re: Red Bull Stratos Balloon

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Bruninga
Does Anyone know what the APRS tracking ID for the Red Bull Stratos Balloon Track STRTOS and STRTOS-11 I was surprised that no one else was inputting objects, so I fired up my old 486 laptop which has not been used in years and initially enetered the STRTOS object. Then killed it to change to

[amsat-bb] Re: Ideal AMSAT FM Transponder

2012-10-01 Thread Robert Bruninga
I presume the reason for UHF downlink rather than 145 MHz, with it's lower Doppler shift, is due to other mission constraints ? Yes, avoid QRM to the 145.825 APRS transponder. BTW is the uplink in the amateur satellite segment of 10m (29.3-29.5) or down at the bottom of the band ? Bottom

[amsat-bb] Ideal AMSAT FM Transponder

2012-09-30 Thread Robert Bruninga
The ideal AMSAT FM transponder for a cubesat is the PSK-31 transponder being developed for the Naval Academy PSAT mission. With an FM downlink, anyone can receive it with an HT and a laptop with PSK-31 software. And anyone with a 10m PSK-31 uplink can transmit to it. The reason it is ideal is

[amsat-bb] Chasing NWS Balloons with APRS

2012-09-13 Thread Robert Bruninga
Although there are a few APRS type Balloon launches every few months to serve as educational tools and short-duration small-satellite simulations, there is often not one available when you happen to need to show some students a class. Now, a Ham in Brazil has written a sound-card decoder for the

[amsat-bb] Re: Camera on an antenna

2012-09-10 Thread Robert Bruninga
I'd say that differently... Nothing wrong with using the camera. But your point is well taken to calibrate the camera to the BEAM by first pointing at the sun. Then (if your camera survives) the camera is a perfectly good aiming device for the moon and it eliminates any errors in the Antenna

[amsat-bb] Re: e: Satellite technical question

2012-09-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
Assume a cubesat with a monopole ¼ wave antenna at 400 mhz. The satellite is in full sun with a 500km orbit. What is the antenna temperature in full sun and in eclipse? It depends entirely on its color (surface properties). If it black it will get to about 55 farenheight in the sun and to

[amsat-bb] APRS back on 145.825 via ISS!

2012-09-07 Thread Robert Bruninga
Just heard ISS back on 145.825. Two students went outside with a D7 HT and sent themselves email using APRS via ISS. Came back inside and were amazed to see the Email in their inbox already! Now they understand APRS! Bob, Wb4APR ___ Sent via

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Digital Slow Scan in space and free food...

2012-09-07 Thread Robert Bruninga
Argent Data makes a small SSTV camera about 1.5 cube for under $100. For all practical purposes it is a modern replacement for the original Kenwood VC-H1 SSTV handheld. He makes them for balloons etc. We have one on a model satellite hanging out in our lobby and anyone can trigger it with any

[amsat-bb] IO-26 as digital EMAIL relay?

2012-09-07 Thread Robert Bruninga
IO-26 is still up there, and still humming; But we haven't figured out how to run it in voice like we did with AO-16; Woha! But if it is a pacsat, can't it act as a digipeater if you just set the DIGI bit to on? Then people can use it for real-time digital QSO's. In the old days, it

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