[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-10-08 Thread gyy
I can't seem to find the answer to this anywhere, so if someone could take a crack at it or point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. I have the Google Ion (the phone handed out at the Google IO Developer's Conference), but I have no idea how to upgrade the OS to 1.6. The HTC

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-17 Thread pro
Thanks Mark, First google seems to ran out of stock for dev phone, and if I recall the site instruction does not quite explain - rooting or whatever needed, third for some of us are already buried down to bargain basement so ebay or other sites seems to be logical alternatives :) Is there any

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-17 Thread AngelOD
On Sep 16, 1:31 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: I have seen no evidence that HTC makes firmware upgrades available directly. They always handle that through whoever distributed the device (e.g., T-Mobile for the T-Mobile myTouch3G version of the Magic). So, if you got your

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-17 Thread pro
Thank you very much. That covers my questions. -pro On Sep 17, 5:55 am, Jeffrey Blattman jeffrey.blatt...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/16/09 8:32 PM, pro wrote: I'm also very new to Android. And I would like to have the following - 1) I want to add and / or del any apps I want to - For this

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-17 Thread Mark Murphy
AngelOD wrote: On Sep 16, 1:31 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: I have seen no evidence that HTC makes firmware upgrades available directly. They always handle that through whoever distributed the device (e.g., T-Mobile for the T-Mobile myTouch3G version of the Magic). So, if

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-17 Thread Chris Stratton
On Sep 17, 8:55 am, Jeffrey Blattman jeffrey.blatt...@gmail.com wrote: unlocked means it is not tied to a particular provider, so that is irrelevant to the question. you can normally add / remove any apps you want on a standard android phone. I don't think you will be able to remove the

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-17 Thread Bartłomiej Nowak
2009/9/16 Rafa Perfeito rafa.perfe...@gmail.com No T-Mobile for me. TMN from Portugal...But that means that the carrier itself enables the update? On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote: Rafa Perfeito wrote: I have an HTC Magic from a carrier. Can i

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-17 Thread brucko
I'll be the first to admit that I am a bit of a novice in the android arena. What I would like to bring to your attention is that there may well be very good reasons as to why some pre-installed apps can be hard to change. I'm trying to import some devices into Australia, many of our

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-16 Thread Rafa Perfeito
Digging an old question that comes alive with the release of 1.6: what about OS updates? I have an HTC Magic from a carrier. Can i update to 1.6? How? Through the carrier? Thanks On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Chi Kit Leung michaelchi...@gmail.comwrote: I am using HTC Magic as test and debug

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-16 Thread Mark Murphy
Rafa Perfeito wrote: I have an HTC Magic from a carrier. Can i update to 1.6? How? Through the carrier? T-Mobile has not yet announced plans for Android 1.6 for any of their devices. At some point, in all likelihood, they will make such an announcement. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-16 Thread Rafa Perfeito
No T-Mobile for me. TMN from Portugal...But that means that the carrier itself enables the update? On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote: Rafa Perfeito wrote: I have an HTC Magic from a carrier. Can i update to 1.6? How? Through the carrier? T-Mobile

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-16 Thread Mark Murphy
Rafa Perfeito wrote: No T-Mobile for me. TMN from Portugal... Oops. Sorry. Too early for me to be writing emails, apparently. This does not bode well for the blog post I am working on... But that means that the carrier itself enables the update? I have seen no evidence that HTC makes

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-16 Thread Juan Delgado
Interesting. Because I bought my Hero unlocked in the UK from an official reseller and I was indeed expecting some news from HTC themselves. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: Rafa Perfeito wrote: No T-Mobile for me. TMN from Portugal... Oops.

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-16 Thread Rafa Perfeito
I have seen no evidence that HTC makes firmware upgrades available directly Well that just sucks...I know there's is a dev phone, but wasn't the philosophy behind Android to be open to everyone contribution? That should be independent of the carrier/not carrier choice... Well, thanks for the

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-16 Thread pro
I'm also very new to Android. And I would like to have the following - 1) I want to add and / or del any apps I want to - For this just any phone would do it? Or I need an unlocked one? 2) I would also like to craft part of OS and / or base framework - For this, Is it enough to have an unlocked

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-01 Thread Ran
Thanks a lot, your answers gave me some clue about the differences and now I think I'll be able to do the right decision. Thank's again! On Aug 28, 8:53 pm, Chris Stratton cs07...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 24, 9:09 am, Ran dahan...@gmail.com wrote: What is the benefit of working with ADP1 over

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-09-01 Thread Chi Kit Leung
I am using HTC Magic as test and debug environment. Because I need a phone to test my App. That is. Moreover, that can prove my App can run in a standard environment. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Ran dahan...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot, your answers gave me some clue about the

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-08-29 Thread Chris Stratton
On Aug 24, 9:09 am, Ran dahan...@gmail.com wrote: What is the benefit of working with ADP1 over the other Android phones ? Just to expand on what others have said: Cost seems comparable betwen a dev phone and a retail phone at full retail or plan price + termination fee, so it's really more

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-08-26 Thread Yusuf Saib (T-Mobile USA)
Right, Zonakusu. Rafa, think of it like buying a Linux PC. Some people might be interested in modifying Linux itself, but most developers will want to just write an application to run on top of Linux. Yusuf Saib Android ·T· · ·Mobile· stick together The views, opinions and statements in this

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-08-25 Thread Rafa Perfeito
Yusuf, Does that means that i can, for example, install new Android versions for myself in the device? What do you mean by 'modify the OS on the phone'? On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Yusuf Saib (T-Mobile USA) yusuf.s...@t-mobile.com wrote: If you just want to write applications and run

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-08-25 Thread Zonakusu
He means that you can create and install your own software packages (.apk files) on your phone, but you won't be able to rewrite parts of the actual operating system. On 25 aug, 12:06, Rafa Perfeito rafa.perfe...@gmail.com wrote: Yusuf, Does that means that i can, for example, install new

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-08-24 Thread Yusuf Saib (T-Mobile USA)
If you just want to write applications and run them on your phone, any Android phone will do. If you want to modify the OS on the phone, then you need either an official development phone or hack a non-dev phone to be a dev phone. Yusuf Saib Android ·T· · ·Mobile· stick together The views,

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-08-04 Thread Android Developer
You can install app as well in a t-mobile without SIM card. You can install either from eclipse or by downloading the apk file. On Aug 4, 8:19 am, Abhiram Alamuru alamuru420...@gmail.com wrote: I've got an unlocked t-mobile g1 and it works fine without the sim. I can use wifi, browse, play

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-08-03 Thread Oliver Rennfort
Yes you can use the dev phone without a sim but you need to hack it. But its simple comand line hack. Android Apps Developer On Aug 3, 2009 1:34 PM, Greg ghoo...@barereef.com wrote: I'm nearing completion of an app and need to begin testing on a real device. G1s are going for quite a bit less

[android-beginners] Re: Development Phone

2009-08-03 Thread Abhiram Alamuru
I've got an unlocked t-mobile g1 and it works fine without the sim. I can use wifi, browse, play games, download from market etc. I haven't tried installing apps on it but I don't see why it won't work. I got it unlocked directly from t-mobile (a friend sold it to me since he was getting the new