[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-09 Thread Dan Morrill
Actually, in this case I'm going to go ahead and request that we move conversations of this type to android-discuss. Normally, for our other developer products we wouldn't make such a request: anything and everything related to the product is welcome. For instance, discussions about this sort of

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-09 Thread Stoyan Damov
Agreed Dan. We already started moving Market-related discussions to android-discuss. Cheers On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Dan Morrill morri...@google.com wrote: Actually, in this case I'm going to go ahead and request that we move conversations of this type to android-discuss. Normally,

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-07 Thread Mariano Kamp
Don't feed the trolls. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: Justin, This group isn't run just for your benefit and so I'm not sure why you think you should be the one to decide what is and isn't on-topic. In the 2 days you've been part of the group I've

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-06 Thread Al Sutton
Justin, This group isn't run just for your benefit and so I'm not sure why you think you should be the one to decide what is and isn't on-topic. In the 2 days you've been part of the group I've seen two people tell you your posts are not welcomed, so maybe you should take the hint, sit back,

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread Sena Gbeckor-Kove
Personally I don't think its an issue. I think it should stay in here and android-discuss unless there is already a place for it. S On 4 Mar 2009, at 17:24, John Lauricella wrote: Is it possible to start a new discussion group for folks who promote their own products that compete with

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread madcoder
...so we don't get this constant conflict-of-interest commentary on how bad the Google system is... I think is good to talk about the likes and dislikes of the Android system. This way, potential problems can be identified and corrected. I also believe alternative application distribution

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread John Lauricella
Yes, you are right, and I apologize to everybody who is contributing to this community, even if that contribution appears negative on the surface to those of us who don't look too deep into it...I am only a fallible human myself, and was irritated at other aspects of life when I wrote the

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread Al Sutton
John, It was my post you responded to and, believe it or not, I valued your response and stepped out of this thread to see what the general opinion was. I do have a vested interest in seeing the bad points of Market brought to light because these represent opportunities for AndAppStore, and I

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread Justin Allen Jaynes
Actually, it is off topic and should not be here. Android-discuss would be okay, though. This is a DEVELPER forum. Please keep to DEVELOPMENT topic. A quote from the official description of the forum: This is the not the right place to discuss user issues (use android-discuss for that).

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread Stoyan Damov
Justin, calm down, it's your 5th or so message aaargh, this is a DEVELPER forum - it's starting to piss me off, at least fix the typo :P If you think that more than 5% of all posters on this list have read the group charter you're fooling yourself. I've said it once - this is the only

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread Justin Allen Jaynes
Stoyan, While I thank you for informing me of two OTHER choices, I prefer to continue to inform people ABOUT the charter so they will read it. It isn't too much to ask that people use the right forum for the right discussion. This IS a DEVELOPER forum: You're now an experienced Android

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread Al Sutton
Justin, Whilst it's nice to see new people on the list, it's probably best to get a feel for how the list works rather than trying to wade in with how you think the world should work because all you're doing at the moment is getting yourself on peoples auto-trash lists. The Google engineers

(offlist) Re: [android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread Stoyan Damov
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: Justin, ... Now, as this has gotten off topic, I'm sure you wouldn't want to reply here, would you? Al. : Made my day! Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

Re: (offlist) Re: [android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-05 Thread Stoyan Damov
My apologies to the group for actually sending what was supposed to be an off-list message to the list! Cheers On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Stoyan Damov stoyan.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: Justin, ... Now, as this has

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
I'm getting more and more tempted to open up paid-for apps on AndAppStore where all payments go directly to the developers account so they can set the TCs. Would this be something people would be interested in? Al. Semprebon wrote: It would be nice if some other pricing models were

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-04 Thread Paper Coder
...but I don't think most people see these products as consumables in the same way you do Perhaps not. But I think this is what will keep the Android Market from being as big as the iPhone App Store. For the most part, people don't go into Game Stop, buy the newest Xbox 360 game on Friday, play

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-04 Thread John Lauricella
Is it possible to start a new discussion group for folks who promote their own products that compete with the Android Market, so we don't get this constant conflict-of-interest commentary on how bad the Google system is... Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:38:49 + From: a...@funkyandroid.com

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-02 Thread madcoder
I'm really not looking forward to making any real money on Android, at least not for some time to come. Once I finish my US Weekly within an hour, can I get a refund? Exactly. What about watching a movie that cost you $7.50? Do you get a refund every time after watching it? What about going

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread Steve Barr
On 2/23/09, Stoyan Damov stoyan.da...@gmail.com wrote: So if I'm a customer, I could buy, say[1], a game on Friday, play all weekend and return it on Monday. Google has got to be joking. [1] Arcade games are more vulnerable to this WTF because you can literally play the entire game in

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread Java Developer
So design games with replay value. Randomize things, periodically release downloadable levels, whatever. In my opinion, this is a completely bogus statement for most games/ applications developed on this platform (minus organizations such as EA Sports, etc.). The G1 is not a PS3. If I

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread Stoyan Damov
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Steve Barr barr8...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/23/09, Stoyan Damov stoyan.da...@gmail.com wrote:  So if I'm a customer, I could buy, say[1], a game on Friday, play all  weekend and return it on Monday.  Google has got to be joking.  [1] Arcade games are more

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread Sundog
The answer can't be so write a different type of application. Certainly these are good strategies, but not suited to every kind of game; seeing that type of game disappear from the market is not a forward-thinking solution. Some people WANT these simple little games. On Feb 23, 9:36 am, Steve

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread Steve Barr
On 2/23/09, Sundog sunns...@gmail.com wrote: The answer can't be so write a different type of application. Certainly these are good strategies, but not suited to every kind of game; seeing that type of game disappear from the market is not a forward-thinking solution. Some people WANT

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread Inderjeet Singh
Are you sure that the buyer can cancel the app after 24 hours? Not charged does not mean that the buyer has the ability to cancel it. Inder On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Stoyan Damov stoyan.da...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I've got a customer who placed orders on 19th (Thursday) @ 9:46 PM

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread Stoyan Damov
Let's see: Feb 22 8:12 AM Order received You received a new order. Google has sent the customer an order confirmation email. Feb 23 12:58 PM Order cancelled You cancelled this order. Reason: Other (describe below) --- THIS IS MY FAVORITE, there's nothing in the Market

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread Stoyan Damov
Now here's another NOT related to weekend sleeps: Feb 22 1:46 PM Order received You received a new order. Google has sent the customer an order confirmation email. Feb 23 2:48 PM Order cancelled You cancelled this order. Reason: Other (describe below) Message sent to customer:

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread inder
Hi Stoyan, You are right, your refund does seem to have happened after 24 hours. As I understand section 3.4 of http://www.android.com/us/developer-distribution-agreement.html The developers agree to allow refunds with-in 48 hours, and buyers have the option for the first 24 hours. May be you

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-02-23 Thread Stoyan Damov
Well, I don't think 3.4 applies to my case because my game does have a free version, which the user can try before he decides whether to buy or not. Now, *frankly* I wouldn't mind the 48 hour period *that* much if at least the user is asked for an explanation why he cancels his order. This Other