[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-27 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
I'm still afraid that sales via slideme.org will be just a very small fraction comparing to selling my own licence keys to free apps via paypal. If you compare download rates for the same app on Android Market and on Slideme there is significant difference. But slideme.org is IMHO a proof that

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-27 Thread Chi Kit Leung
For Point 5, I think you cannot submit any apps to android market with the license key activation required as a free app. The policy are restricted the developers to use their authorize payment processor. 2010/5/26 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com What makes me crazy about Amir's vision:

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-27 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
For my country there is no authorized processor. Because of Google's approach we are criticizing here. I would love to use Google's immediately. I spent 350USD (phone and market entry fee) to start developing for Android and I would like to get my investment back. I hoped Google will help me by

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Chi Kit Leung
i agree with Andy. But there is some alternative markets than google. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Andy Savage a...@bluewire.net.nz wrote: That's just crazy. How can they hope to compete with Apple's paid store? For sure that it's a different (and possibly exciting) interaction model

[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
i agree with Andy. But there is some alternative markets than google. Unfortunately there is MANY alternative markets with very small share and very uncertain future :-/ Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this

[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
On 26 kvě, 04:37, Andy Savage a...@bluewire.net.nz wrote: I for one certainly wouldn't mind 10% of my revenue going their way if the apps store was fantastic and it was available everywhere. FYI: Google takes 30% of your revenue in chosen countries ;-) -- You received this message because

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Andy Savage
I believe that the 30% went to the carriers only? If what you say is true and they take 30% where there is no carrier deal in place then they have NO excuse (at least from our perspective) not to implement *good* paid markets everywhere. For every minute that they don't they are loosing

[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
What makes me crazy about Amir's vision: 1) Not all applications as suitable for AdSupported business model. I can't imagine how Home Screen widgets can be paid from Ads. There is too small space where to show ads that I believe it is impossible. 2) I can imagine applications where Ad Supported

[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Mark Carter
In Google IO, they showed an app being installed to a smartphone directly from a desktop browser (via the internet). I'm hoping this will become a way to buy/install apps bypassing the Android Market app and so could potentially open app-purchases to countries that do not currently support paid

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: In Google IO, they showed an app being installed to a smartphone directly from a desktop browser (via the internet). I'm hoping this will become a way to buy/install apps bypassing the Android Market app and so could

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Mark Carter
2010/5/26 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com Push IMHO is just remote command for Android Market client not bypassing Android Market itself. I can imagine that alternative markets will use this but I still think that you need some 'listener installed in the phone. I was assuming it would

[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread gosh
In the 8 months of 'nothing' from Google on this issue, we've seen a way to make it work for the software developer too, as it should: This other approach involves 'not killing iPhone', but maintaining some plurality in your platform dev choice. Consider the Android market as your 'test' market,

[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Indicator Veritatis
One of the advantages of the application market SlideMe.org (http:// slideme.org) is that they handle all the tax payments themselves, the vendor does not have to. The vendor receives the payment from slideme instead of direct from the end user. Another advantage is that you really can use it

[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-26 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Surely you can use SlideME from Singapore. The list of apps is not anywere near as comprehensive as on Google's Android Market, but it is still pretty good. Go to http://slideme.org. On May 21, 2:34 am, hotr0d cyberm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surrently located in Singapore and I really love my

[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-25 Thread Amir Alagic
Hi, I don't think that this will happen any time soon for you in Singapore. Google is living on ads and few months ago Google bought AdMob for 750 million dollars. It it not in their interest to improve paid apps after they invested so much money in mobile advertising. Last year Google said that

[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-25 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
This sounds terribly. I love AdSense in web pages as it is not annoying but sometimes even useful. But I really hate ads in software. I wish what you wrote bellow is not true :-( Tom On 25 kvě, 20:41, Amir Alagic amirs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't think that this will happen any time soon

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world

2010-05-25 Thread Andy Savage
That's just crazy. How can they hope to compete with Apple's paid store? For sure that it's a different (and possibly exciting) interaction model for apps, but honestly the revenue is far less garmented. I don't see why they don't just take a cut from app purchases and then put that towards