Re: [android-developers] Re: Are processes kept alive when nothing is being done?

2010-02-09 Thread Dianne Hackborn
I think there is going to be updating of the user documentation to better explain this. The current SDK documentation I think is relatively clear about there being empty processes (the last process bucket) that can be hanging around. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Al Sutton

[android-developers] Re: Are processes kept alive when nothing is being done?

2010-02-09 Thread jotobjects
On Feb 8, 11:25 pm, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: Thanks for the clarification Dianne. I'm guessing the confusion comes from people who (like me) are familiar with the traditional Linux process model of when a process has finished it dies What constituents finished for an Andorid

[android-developers] Re: Are processes kept alive when nothing is being done?

2010-02-09 Thread Michael Elsdörfer
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html#proclifeKeeping it around has no negative impact on the user. It would be possible though that a broken application still has active threads around which are eating CPU cycles, correct? Michael -- You received this message because

[android-developers] Re: Are processes kept alive when nothing is being done?

2010-02-09 Thread jotobjects
On Feb 9, 12:45 am, Michael Elsdörfer elsdoer...@gmail.com wrote: It would be possible though that a broken application still has active threads around which are eating CPU cycles, correct? Empty processes have no application components. ASFIK the JVM is gone and all the runtime artifacts of

[android-developers] Re: Are processes kept alive when nothing is being done?

2010-02-08 Thread Bob Kerns
Actually, I believe you should go further, and say it has a POSITIVE impact on the user. It takes time to tear down and recreate a process that may be reusable a short time later. And Android can possibly do the teardown at a less busy moment. The only downside I see is that we developers will

Re: [android-developers] Re: Are processes kept alive when nothing is being done?

2010-02-08 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Yeah hopefully it is a positive impact. Developers really shouldn't have to explain this, and I am very sorry you are being put into this position. I don't really understand why users would pick out some applications to complain about, when every single one (including the ones built into the

[android-developers] Re: Are processes kept alive when nothing is being done?

2010-02-08 Thread Al Sutton
Thanks for the clarification Dianne. I'm guessing the confusion comes from people who (like me) are familiar with the traditional Linux process model of when a process has finished it dies and aren't expecting a garbage collecting process management system :). I'd read the process/threads