[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-19 Thread Indicator Veritatis
I think it is very interesting that you mention the example of 'String' a standard Java class. One of my surprises learning my way around the Android documentation is that though the standard Java classes are included, the documentation on them is often very scanty. That is why I use Sun's Javadoc

Re: [android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-19 Thread Mark Murphy
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.com wrote: This has got to be a deliberate decision on their part, but I can live with it. The java.* and javax.* classes are largely taken from Apache Harmony, and I am not aware that their Javadoc comments are altered in the

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-17 Thread Indicator Veritatis
You must have either an outdated, slow computer or a very bad network connection, if you find looking up faster in Java in a Nutshell (a fine book, though). I have had no such problem with the online reference, yet my connection is average DSL, my computer slightly below average memory and CPU

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-17 Thread DanH
With Java in a Nutshell I can find, eg, String and scan the list of methods to refresh my memory of, say, all the options for indexOf in 10 seconds. With the online ref I it takes 5 seconds to open the link, 15 seconds to find String, 5 to scroll down to the method list, and then I still don't

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-17 Thread Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
With Java in a Nutshell I can find, eg, String and scan the list of methods to refresh my memory of, say, all the options for indexOf in 10 seconds. If I need to refresh my memory on anything, I use the greatest resource that has ever been created for programmers, Google. No need for an

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread Indicator Veritatis
If you insist on using a screwdriver as a hammer, of course you will complain about the quality of the hammer: you ask about REFERENCE books, but neither of the books you cite are meant as reference books. As for why there is such a shortage of reference books, that is because the best reference

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread DanH
I've looked at the online reference and it's not very good. Cuter than the Sun Java stuff, but not as comprehensive and doesn't explain things very well. And it's a lot slower referencing an online reference than, say, looking up something in Java in a Nutshell. One thing that seems to be

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread DanH
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[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
I can only speak from my personal experience. I've been a software engineer for more than 30 years and in that time have learned at least a dozen languages. I started Android cold, with no Java experience at all. It took me 3 months to develop my first application and I've been learning more

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread DanH
I've been a software engineer for 40 years, and have taught myself -- let's see: BASIC, assembler on 6-8 different platforms, C, C++, Java, Modula 2, Pascal, PL/I, several PL-whatever languages for IBM internal use -- all from reading the reference manuals. Even designed my own language for

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread DanH
On Jul 15, 6:35 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: The best reference is the documentation supplied with the sdk. If you want a better instructional book, I suggest looking at Mark Murphy's set of books, they're fairly inexpensive and he constantly updates them. You

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread DanH
I do have a subscription to the CommonsWare stuff. (Got it on the recommendation of a co-worker.) I find the Acrobat format a bit difficult to read and navigate through, but so far what little I've read appears to be better than the other books. I haven't assessed whether it's suitable for my

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
Dan, Pardon my direct contact... Back in the old days, I wrote mostly for IBM hardware and I must say they had the best manuals ever. I'm sure you remember how they always had a great example, and a cross reference to similar functions so if the one you were looking at didn't cut the mustard,

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread Mystique
Yes a reference like the Java in a nutshell but on Android will be good. On Jul 16, 3:44 am, DanH danhi...@ieee.org wrote: Is there one?  I have Professional Android 2 Application Development by Meier and Teach Yourself Android Application Development in 24 Hours by Darcy/Conder.  Both are

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread DanH
Well, the IBM manuals could be pretty dry, but there were several that were excellent. The Nutshell books generally do a good job of balancing tutorial and reference info, though the references are necessarily abbreviated. As an example of a pretty good (though far from perfect) online

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-16 Thread mah
Anyone that tells you they learned C++ in 24 hours has still not learned C++. This is philosophical, kind of like the statement Seek those who seek the truth, avoid those who claim to have found it. The official Android documentation is indeed very difficult to grasp, but I there's so much

[android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-15 Thread Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
The best reference is the documentation supplied with the sdk. If you want a better instructional book, I suggest looking at Mark Murphy's set of books, they're fairly inexpensive and he constantly updates them. You can also purchase some (all?) as physical books as well, but using them as PDF's

Re: [android-developers] Re: Decent Android reference book?

2010-07-15 Thread Mark Murphy
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: The best reference is the documentation supplied with the sdk. If you want a better instructional book, I suggest looking at Mark Murphy's set of books, they're fairly inexpensive and he constantly updates