So clarify this once and for all. Unless I buy the phone as a
developer phone, ie out of contract, the provider doesnt not have to
give me access to be able to install out of market apps, ie my own
developed apps unless they are on the market?
On Jan 10, 10:05 pm, Dianne Hackborn
Your phrasing is confusing.
The CDD *requires* that for a device to ship with Market it *must* have full
ADB support. This is what you use to develop applications on a device:
install them, debug them, and everything else involved with development.
Being able to install non-Market apps as a
Dianne Thank you for your time in clearing up this matter. I now have
clear understanding. Again thank you.
On Jan 11, 1:11 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
Your phrasing is confusing.
The CDD *requires* that for a device to ship with Market it *must* have full
ADB support.
Sony Ericsson X10a as sold by ATT does not meet this standard I
believe.
On Jan 8, 3:25 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 8, 7:57 am, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
Dev phones are for people
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Leon Moreyn-Android Development
lmor...@earthcam.com wrote:
Sony Ericsson X10a as sold by ATT does not meet this standard I
believe.
The ATT devices don't have side-loading through the UI enabled. They still
allow development (including installing) through
Can you provide more details about CDD or confirm that the X10A as
sold by ATT meets the CDD standard and is fully available for
developer use with all features running.
On Jan 10, 2:18 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Leon Moreyn-Android
CDD Details here
http://source.android.com/compatibility/overview.html
I believe it should be.
Kumar Bibek
http://techdroid.kbeanie.com
http://www.kbeanie.com
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Leon Moreyn-Android Development
lmor...@earthcam.com wrote:
Can you provide more details about CDD
Ok. So here is what I am trying to understand. I have an X10A from
ATT. I can not develop on the phone because it doesn't allow me to
install third party none market applications. If I try to root the
phone it will remove the 3G and WIFI from functionality from the
phone. At this point I am
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Leon Moreyn-Android Development
lmor...@earthcam.com wrote:
Ok. So here is what I am trying to understand. I have an X10A from
ATT. I can not develop on the phone because it doesn't allow me to
install third party none market applications.
You can still use adb
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Leon Moreyn-Android Development
lmor...@earthcam.com wrote:
Ok. So here is what I am trying to understand. I have an X10A from
ATT. I can not develop on the phone because it doesn't
On 8 Jan., 21:25, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
That said, yes the dev devices are partly there to be a benchmark for how
that platform is expected to behave. [...] I sometimes like to
refer to them as Android reference devices. :)
Don't you think reference devices should be
Hi
I now have a Nexus S as well as a Nexus One.
Nexus One has better back camera with zoom and more pixels.
Nexus One has better framerate on my 2d game 58fps vs 52fps Nexus S.
Nexus S has 2.3 vs 2.2 (not for long).
Nexus S has front camera + gyro + nfc (nfc is not much use here
without tags).
On 19 Dez. 2010, 01:08, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
Except for NFC, I don't think there is much any other high-end Android
device would be holding you back from doing.
This applies also to the availability of Nexus One and ADP2: Why are
they available as dev phone when every
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, RobBln robert.jaemmr...@googlemail.com wrote:
This applies also to the availability of Nexus One and ADP2: Why are
they available as dev phone when every recent phone has the same or
better features?
Dev phones are for people devising alternative firmware. They
On Jan 8, 7:57 am, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
Dev phones are for people devising alternative firmware. They are
not necessary for ordinary Android SDK development.
... but sure are a good idea to have. We've seen a selection of dogs
where USB drivers weren't available or
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 8, 7:57 am, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
Dev phones are for people devising alternative firmware. They are
not necessary for ordinary Android SDK development.
... but sure are a good idea to have.
Hi,
Android NFC would be much more useful if it supported NFC device to
device comms.
Unfortunately the 2.3 sdk only supports reading tags, hopefully it
will be updated in future to provide full NFC support for device to
device comms...
Regards
On Dec 22, 5:42 pm, r...@thelogicbox
On Dec 8, 2:17 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
You will be able to walk into Best Buy and buy one as soon as it comes out.
Google's Online Phone Store was GOOD! Bring it back, give it more
time, don't worry about useless journalists hanging shit on it (e.g.
saying its a flop)...it
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 8:15 PM, metal mikey coref...@gmail.com wrote:
Google's Online Phone Store was GOOD! Bring it back, give it more time,
don't worry about useless journalists hanging shit on it (e.g. saying its a
flop)...it was REALLY, REALLY GOOD!
The useless journalists were just
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication
this link might help you
Regards,
Nishant Bhargava
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Yes, we need to protect our US application developers from unfair
competition.
Sorry, but I fail to understand your logic. How would developers
around the world make an unfair competition. I would rather think that
it is the other way around since they don't have access to this phone.
Don't you
Hmmm... lets see.. I just went to the website of 2 of your big
electronics stores, MediaMarkt and Saturn to see if I could buy the
really nice Toshiba Android tablet that I saw on my last trip to
Osnabrueck ... Oh.. they don't have webstores or a presence in the
USA. Want to put them in the
I don't see unfair competition in supplying this phone as a Dev Phone.
Doesn't the android developer market allow US developers to buy the
phone as well (like the nexus One and ADP2)?
On Dec 19, 1:08 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
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On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Bogdan Hlevca bogdan.hle...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes, we need to protect our US application developers from unfair
competition.
Sorry, but I fail to understand your logic.
I may be mistaken, but I thought she was being sarcastic.
Except for NFC, I don't
I understood it that way as well, but NFC is a *major* addition... at least
in the circles I run in.
- Brill Pappin
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 8:04 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Bogdan Hlevca
bogdan.hle...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes, we need to protect our US application developers from unfair
competition.
Sorry, but I fail to understand your logic.
I may be
Seems we all agree NFC is a significant hardware advancement!
So the question remains for all non-US developers - how can we get our
hands on hardware without paying over the odds or waiting months for
our local carriers to deliver?
We don't need access to every new phone that comes to market,
Aah, assumptions.
Do you know if it'll be released as an ADP 4?
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No idea.
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:26 AM, MrChaz mrchazmob...@gmail.com wrote:
Aah, assumptions.
Do you know if it'll be released as an ADP 4?
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Haha.
by making sure the unfair competition advantage stays at home :)
I love free trade...
On Dec 18, 7:08 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:48 PM, r...@thelogicbox
richlarco...@gmail.comwrote:
Valid point, or maybe it's intentional for non-US
On 8 Dez., 04:17, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
You will be able to walk into Best Buy and buy one as soon as it comes out.
I'm sorry, but this answer is very ignorant for all non-US developers
willing to develop cool new NFC and gyro apps. There is no Best Buy in
Berlin, Germany
Valid point, or maybe it's intentional for non-US developers to be
significantly disadvantaged?
Understand there's logistical challenges for global distribution, but
surely it's in everyone's interest to find ways for developers around
the globe to gain access to such significant hardware updates
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:14 AM, RobBln robert.jaemmr...@googlemail.comwrote:
On 8 Dez., 04:17, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
You will be able to walk into Best Buy and buy one as soon as it comes
out.
I'm sorry, but this answer is very ignorant for all non-US developers
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:48 PM, r...@thelogicbox richlarco...@gmail.comwrote:
Valid point, or maybe it's intentional for non-US developers to be
significantly disadvantaged?
Yes, we need to protect our US application developers from unfair
competition.
Understand there's logistical
How about sending me a free one, oh, make it an ATT network version
please. I dislike T-M.
(in the mean time, I'll continue to enjoy the heck out of my Nexus
One)
-John Coryat
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Sure you will, in the US... Us Canadian are always the last to gen
anything google releases... it even goes to Europe first!
- Brill
On Dec 7, 10:17 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
You will be able to walk into Best Buy and buy one as soon as it comes out.
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Hi,
It's a long walk from here in Australia to Best Buy, hence requesting
it as a Dev phone ;-)
They are starting to appear in ebay with +$200 or more over the rrp...
Regards
ps Wish it had 8MP+ camera (!), guess I'll have to buy some other non
google nexus phone as well...
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