I asked market help about this about a week ago and they say they've
now made some changes which 'may have resolved the problem'.
Fingers crossed.
Pent
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On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Pent tas...@dinglisch.net wrote:
I asked market help about this about a week ago and they say they've now
made some changes which 'may have resolved the problem'.
Yeah ... that's kind of their de facto response to anything, honestly. Like
the active install
Yeah ... that's kind of their de facto response to anything, honestly. Like
the active install problem, which is still not fixed even though they may
have resolved the problem weeks ago. Don't get your hopes up.
Yeah, I noticed today I was sliding back again (and only regained a
1/4
of the
AppBucket sent me this email:
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Hi Martin,
Thought you would want to know and you can make it known to the rest
of
our fan boys...
We didn't get banned from posting anything. We deliberately
so basically he is admitting that he is not stealing
himself, but dealing stolen goods - I seen on TV that
prosecutors in USA are really eager if they see some crime
as they are elected ( did they lied to me?)
Is it possible to identify them? Is it possible to locate them?
If that's not
Ugh. I'm offended that he likes me. There was no congeniality in
my tone when I wrote about getting my app removed.
I respect the wishes of developers who request removal.
It is ridiculous that he assumes developers don't mind having their
income ripped away from them, unless they speak up
On Sep 19, 11:37 pm, mot12 martin.hu...@gmail.com wrote:
- allow developers to make a comment in the market by allowing them to
purchase their own apps: appbucket is a website by thieves, the
developers get screwed and you will get screwed. Or something like
this.
I really liked that
But here's the interesting part: As of this morning, the AppBucket
comment is GONE from my app's Market page. Don't know if Google
removed it - is it still there for the rest of your apps? Or if the
AppBucket scum removed it themselves (seems unlikely). But one way or
the other, it's gone
This is just a workaround, because I'm sure they will put the app back
on their list eventually, especially since I just pushed out a major
update, but I asked them to take my app down, and they did within a
couple of days.
I sent an email like the following to d...@appbucket.net
AppBucket comment gone from my app too at this moment. Maybe he's
taking a day off since he has to resubmit every day.
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A Whois search shows these name servers:
Domain Name: APPBUCKET.NET
Name Server: NS.PRQ.SE
Name Server: NS2.PRQ.SE
Researching the name servers leads to:
Server Name: NS.PRQ.SE
Registrar: KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH
Whois Server: whois.rrpproxy.net
Referral URL:
On Sep 20, 6:43 am, Jason jason.poli...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately it's not just paying and refunding that is the issue
with these guys.
From the twitter account of appbucket:
haha...They finally found the crack we have been using for some of
our appsTook them long enough. We have
One could potentially go after the credit card companies for
racketeering. However, lawyer$ would be needed, and who's going to
pay them? Kinda need an app writer's union of a sort.
On Sep 19, 10:23 pm, chrispix chris...@gmail.com wrote:
Obviously they have to get their money some how. Sign up
It would certainly be difficult if not impossible to sign up for a
GMail account while sitting at a MacDonalds, Starbucks or other free
wifi location. How in the world could this be tracked back to the
person who instigated the account? I would say impossible. With all
the free wifi's around,
I'm surprised everyone is focused on what the app developers can do.
The people responsible for the market need to remove this stuff, it
can't be so hard.
I waited a few weeks then posted on Market Help.
Amazed they've not done anything, it looks really bad having an advert
to cracked apps at
On Sep 19, 5:15 am, Pent tas...@dinglisch.net wrote:
Amazed they've not done anything
You must be new here
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On Sep 19, 5:15 am, Pent tas...@dinglisch.net wrote:
I'm surprised everyone is focused on what the app developers can do.
The people responsible for the market need to remove this stuff, it
can't be so hard.
I waited a few weeks then posted on Market Help.
Amazed they've not done anything,
Obviously they have to get their money some how. Sign up for an
account as
a developer, then find out what their account is.
Email the paypal operator etc, and say you will file a suite for
assisting in
illegal activities and want xyz$ refunded to you.
d...@appbucket.net
supp...@appbucket.net
The other solution would be to incorporate
http://developer.android.com/guide/publishing/licensing.html
licensing.. That way they would have to be authorized. Seems pretty
straight forward...
yes, it sucks to have to change the applications, but better than the
alternative.
actually, if I recall
Unfortunately it's not just paying and refunding that is the issue
with these guys.
From the twitter account of appbucket:
haha...They finally found the crack we have been using for some of
our appsTook them long enough. We have a few more up our
sleeve...
They are clearly actively cracking
Don't rely on web anonymity for protection. When presented with a
subpoena, bulletin board operators, moderators, ISPs and the like have
to reveal whatever data they have concerning who it is who posted
anonymously. This would be a bad time to be surprised by how much data
that is.
Of course, if
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Bret Foreman bret.fore...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm guessing something about what he's doing is illegal...and it's
across state lines so it's a federal case. You should file a complaint
with the FBI.
From my experience, the FBI is completely useless and could care
Sigh. I spent a couple of minutes to send notices to Portlane and
Cogentco. Simple enough.
Do the same, chances improve someone takes action.
That's good. And I will do the same.
I have read several reports that piracy is very high in the U.S., so I
doubt it is just about availability or not
I suspect a lot of people who buy from AppBucket really don't know
they're dealing in pirated software. If there were some way to make
it well known that outfits like AppBucket are pirates, that would
probably help a lot.
(One trick that comes to mind is simply spamming Google: Have lots
of
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:57 PM, DanH danhi...@ieee.org wrote:
With any luck several of those would come up when someone Googled
AppBucket.
Besides their main page, the results for AppBucket are discussion topics
in forums discussing that they're pirates.
The problem with publicizing that they are pirates is that people
looking for pirate Android sites will now find them. It's better to
use phrases like Appbucket is a scam and Appbucket took my money
and I got nothing or Appbucket stole my credit card number - all of
which would scare people away
Has anyone actually found there app on this site and tried to have it taken
down?
These bits of their TOS are particularly ... um ... interesting.
*6. Intellectual Property Information*
... Any unauthorized use of the materials appearing on this site may violate
copyright, trademark and other
Besides their main page, the results for AppBucket are discussion topics
in forums discussing that they're pirates.
True, but many of the discussions are vague when you look at the
Google summaries. And AppBucket has managed to spam Google pretty
well themselves to swamp out the dozen or so
True, but the second and third options could set you up for a
lawsuit. Scam is reasonably safe, though, since selling pirated
software IS a sort of scam.
On Sep 17, 2:29 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
cor...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem with publicizing that they are pirates is that people
Have you read their procedure for reporting pirated software? They
tell you how to prepare a complaint (including all sorts of
discouraging steps), and then don't tell you where to send it -- the
Designated Agent is never identified below. Nowhere can you find
an address.
Pretty clever, really.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:43 PM, DanH danhi...@ieee.org wrote:
Have you read their procedure for reporting pirated software?
I did now. I'd gotten bored after step 1 before =P
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TreKing
True, but the second and third options could set you up for a lawsuit.
That would be rich. A pirate suing for such a thing... They would have
to reveal who they really are and that would probably open themselves
up for more trouble than it would be worth.
-John Coryat
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I certainly care, but I find myself as an individual or even as a part of
this community to be underpowered to fight this.
I tend to look at it as I did with the RIAA fighting every individual
pirating music. The RIAA spent a decade or more, and ridiculous sums of
money, to fight in the legal
I think there is a big difference here. Charging for pirated material
and offering it for free.
Yes, pirated apps sucks but this is even worse! Makes me so mad that
these users are actually charging for my work!! This is a new level
of piracy that might be easier to track and target right? The
Thing is, the laws in many countries make libel suits fairly easy, and
hard to defend against. They would be unlikely to win, of course, but
they could make your life miserable enough to keep others from saying
nasty things about them. Think of the Texas veggie libel laws and
the trouble they
I guess you'd just have to post anonymously... that would be easy
enough. Let them try and find the real person behind the post.
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I had thought more people would chime in on this. Do developers really
not care?
On Android, I am really surprised about two things as a developer (and
I don't know how it is on other platforms):
1) Piracy and criminal reselling are much more of an issue than I
expected. And developers seem to
I'm so bothered by this! It's incredibly crazzy! My tracking shows
that 300% of my daily new users are not purchased! Its really crazzy
Im gonna have to invest in a better copy protection methods :(
-Moto
On Sep 16, 8:59 pm, mot12 martin.hu...@gmail.com wrote:
I had thought more people
I think people care, but there's not much they can do, as individuals.
There should be government groups that go after outfits like
AppBucket, but, face it, Android developers are not likely to be big
political contributors, so the government attention is going
elsewhere.
You could try to form
I'd care more if I *could* actually sell via the Android market.
On Sep 17, 12:29 pm, DanH danhi...@ieee.org wrote:
I think people care, but there's not much they can do, as individuals.
There should be government groups that go after outfits like
AppBucket, but, face it, Android developers
On Sep 16, 8:59 pm, mot12 martin.hu...@gmail.com wrote:
2) Users are cheap (maybe goes together with point 1). I have a free
version of my main app (an alarm clock with all kind of bells and
whistles) that doesn't ring on Wednesdays. I actually had one user
comment that he changes the clock
On Sep 16, 7:29 pm, DanH danhi...@ieee.org wrote:
I think people care, but there's not much they can do, as individuals.
Sigh. I spent a couple of minutes to send notices to Portlane and
Cogentco. Simple enough.
Do the same, chances improve someone takes action.
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I'm guessing something about what he's doing is illegal...and it's
across state lines so it's a federal case. You should file a complaint
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It does seem suspicious -- they give you a list of steps to report
copyright infringement but conveniently omit the mailing address. In
fact, it would appear that the only way to get their address would be
to subscribe and then trace them through the credit card charges.
On Sep 14, 7:23 pm, Bret
Could be another outfit that took over the androidplayground domain
name. androidplayground was hosted out of the Netherlands last time I
checked. That was after we had chased them out of the States.
It appears appbucket.net get their access through Cogent Co. and is
hosted at Portlane, no? All
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