[android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-06-03 Thread Elmer Esque
S. 23: Patent Reform Act of 2011 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-23 On May 29, 9:48 am, jacek jacek.ambroz...@gmail.com wrote: The real culprit is the Patent Office... The P.O. makes all this nonsense possible On May 27, 7:08 pm, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote:

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-06-02 Thread Felipemnoa
Almost sure that if they were to patent for a time machine or perpetual motion machine they would get ot. On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Brian Conrad brianjto...@gmail.com wrote: I bothered to read though the patent quite a bit and though I'm not a lawyer I was struck by the language as if they

[android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-06-02 Thread Nathan
On Jun 1, 11:41 am, Felipemnoa felipem...@yahoo.com wrote: Lodsys strategy may be to cause a lot of pain to google by going after the developers. If a lot of developers start to complain they pribably think that that may speed up negotiations in their favor. Given the length of time it has

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-06-01 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 11:45 -0700, Chris Lang wrote: Does anyone have a link to the original patent? I want to see the documentation and run it past my lawyer before I make any decisions or comment on this. And really in my mind, that is the only one that matters, what my contract lawyer

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-06-01 Thread Tim Mensch
On 6/1/2011 2:48 AM, Craig White wrote: Their licensing fees were purposely set low to Apple and Google because those companies pay patent lawyers already so there's no incentive for Lodsys to get into a protracted legal battle that might invalidate their patent. They didn't license the

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-06-01 Thread Felipemnoa
Lodsys strategy may be to cause a lot of pain to google by going after the developers. If a lot of developers start to complain they pribably think that that may speed up negotiations in their favor. The real problem here is that the patent was granted in the first place. On Jun 1, 2011, at

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-06-01 Thread Brian Conrad
I bothered to read though the patent quite a bit and though I'm not a lawyer I was struck by the language as if they never really developed anything but instead came up with a concept that they thought someone else might try to implement in the future. Time has probably come unless you want

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-06-01 Thread Tim Mensch
On 6/1/2011 1:33 PM, Brian Conrad wrote: Time has probably come unless you want innovation to come to a halt to do a complete overhaul of the patent system. Preaching to the choir, though I think simply removing software from the list of things that's patentable would be an easier battle than

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-06-01 Thread Chris Lang
Thanks very much, and yeah, that makes your head hurt to try to read that one LOL. Now it's time to pay my lawyer to review it. I have my contract lawyer on a simple $50 a month deal just to review TOS agreements and things like this. It is cheap, keeps me out of trouble when using API's like

[android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-05-31 Thread Nathan
On May 30, 11:45 am, Chris Lang chrisl...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have a link to the original patent? I want to see the documentation and run it past my lawyer before I make any decisions or comment on this. And really in my mind, that is the only one that matters, what my contract lawyer

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-05-30 Thread Chris Lang
Does anyone have a link to the original patent? I want to see the documentation and run it past my lawyer before I make any decisions or comment on this. And really in my mind, that is the only one that matters, what my contract lawyer advises me to do. So my advice is do the same, seek legal

[android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-05-30 Thread Technogasms
The main patent at issue is U.S. Patent #7,222,078. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7222078.PN.OS=PN/7222078RS=PN/7222078 On May 30, 1:45 pm, Chris Lang chrisl...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have a link to

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-05-30 Thread Brian Conrad
On 05/30/2011 02:15 PM, Technogasms wrote: The main patent at issue is U.S. Patent #7,222,078. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7222078.PN.OS=PN/7222078RS=PN/7222078 On May 30, 1:45 pm, Chris

[android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-05-29 Thread jacek
The real culprit is the Patent Office... The P.O. makes all this nonsense possible On May 27, 7:08 pm, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: On May 26, 11:01 pm, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: I guess if you really were worried about it, just use the Market features to make your

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-05-29 Thread Brian Conrad
Businesses figured out years ago they could game the Patent Office due to its technical ignorance. This patent seems to be for a concept not truly a machine or device that in total might be unique. Patents shouldn't be granted for such obvious things. If you put a bunch of programmers in

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-05-27 Thread Al Sutton
You can send letters to whomever you like claiming you own a patent that should stop someone else distributing an application, it doesn't make it legally enforceable. I've had a couple of cease desist and a DMCA sent to me in the past, pointing out that I'm not US based and that either the

[android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-05-27 Thread Nathan
On May 26, 11:01 pm, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: I guess if you really were worried about it, just use the Market features to make your app unavailable in the US could be an easy solution. Yes, I'd only offend 78% of my paying customers that way. ;( In particular, the in-app

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Lodsys is coming after Android developers now. Any direction from Google?

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Selormey
Patents regulate a target market into which someone sells, not a country of origin. He is selling it in Switzerland, and pays his tax to the Switzerland. Lodsys will have to wait till he started selling it in the USA. Best regards, Paul. -- You received this message because you are