Re: [Aoetools-discuss] AoE Target implementaion for LIO?
AoE use is accelerating rapidly, and iSCSI persists because even though it's not the best fit for same-LAN data storage, folks can still get it to work if they are willing and able to deal with the complexity, sacrifice the performance, and don't need the kind of scaling that virtualization and cloud deployments require. Although a lot of the expansion of AoE use lately has been by users of the Coraid HBA, there are still a lot of first-time AoE users using the coraid.com-distributed Linux initiator and also the kernel.org-distributed initiator. Recently there have been a lot of patches from Coraid to the Linux Kernel Mailing List for bringing the kernel.org-distributed driver up to date. For example, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1377362 We also fixed a regression in the Linux kernel's network layer that affected AoE performance: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/243626 I don't have much time to participate on the aoetools-discuss mailing list right now, partly so that I can keep generating those patches, but I think pessimism is especially inappropriate today, when the use of AoE is accelerating along with the development of its associated technologies, including open source technologies. -- Ed Cashin ecas...@coraid.com -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Aoetools-discuss mailing list Aoetools-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aoetools-discuss
Re: [Aoetools-discuss] AoE Target implementaion for LIO?
I'm happy to hear that there is now progress on getting the initiator updated in upstream, hopefully this will help to correct the assumption that AoE is dead or dying. Not that I'm very knowledgeable about the storage sector, but it seems to me that AoEs main problem as a technology is marketing. I've spoken to other sysadmins that merely go Huh? when I tell them we're running AoE, but many people seem to find the idea interesting when I explain what it is. For my part, I can say that I set up AoE on default Debian packages some time ago, and everything has more or less Just Worked(TM) since then. Not that my deployment is very fancy or has a high load on it, but still, AoE brings home the bacon for our part. On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ed Cashin ecas...@coraid.com wrote: AoE use is accelerating rapidly, and iSCSI persists because even though it's not the best fit for same-LAN data storage, folks can still get it to work if they are willing and able to deal with the complexity, sacrifice the performance, and don't need the kind of scaling that virtualization and cloud deployments require. Although a lot of the expansion of AoE use lately has been by users of the Coraid HBA, there are still a lot of first-time AoE users using the coraid.com-distributed Linux initiator and also the kernel.org-distributed initiator. Recently there have been a lot of patches from Coraid to the Linux Kernel Mailing List for bringing the kernel.org-distributed driver up to date. For example, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1377362 We also fixed a regression in the Linux kernel's network layer that affected AoE performance: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/243626 I don't have much time to participate on the aoetools-discuss mailing list right now, partly so that I can keep generating those patches, but I think pessimism is especially inappropriate today, when the use of AoE is accelerating along with the development of its associated technologies, including open source technologies. -- Ed Cashin ecas...@coraid.com -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Aoetools-discuss mailing list Aoetools-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aoetools-discuss -- Vennlig hilsen Torbjørn Thorsen Utvikler / driftstekniker Trollweb Solutions AS - Professional Magento Partner www.trollweb.no Telefon dagtid: +47 51215300 Telefon kveld/helg: For kunder med Serviceavtale Besøksadresse: Luramyrveien 40, 4313 Sandnes Postadresse: Maurholen 57, 4316 Sandnes Husk at alle våre standard-vilkår alltid er gjeldende -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Aoetools-discuss mailing list Aoetools-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aoetools-discuss
Re: [Aoetools-discuss] AoE Target implementaion for LIO?
Hi, Happy to sse that Coraid is contributing to the kernel.org initiator! I have tryed for a while to convince customers of my former company to give AoE a try. After presenting them the technology they had no doubt about AoE superiority over iSCSI. However, they often chose iscsi as it appeared to be the de-facto standard. IMHO, this is, for a large part, due to the lack of activities in the various opensource implementation. That said this lack of activity is understandable as the specs didn't evolve, so I presume only few work has to be done... Targets like AoE are realy interresting project, but are now abandonned (partly) because of this I guess. In any case an activity on the client side is a good news! Question... is it possible to use Coraid HBA with a Linux target? If so, does it drop the need for the sofware initiator? Kind regards. 2012/10/19 Torbjørn Thorsen torbj...@trollweb.no I'm happy to hear that there is now progress on getting the initiator updated in upstream, hopefully this will help to correct the assumption that AoE is dead or dying. Not that I'm very knowledgeable about the storage sector, but it seems to me that AoEs main problem as a technology is marketing. I've spoken to other sysadmins that merely go Huh? when I tell them we're running AoE, but many people seem to find the idea interesting when I explain what it is. For my part, I can say that I set up AoE on default Debian packages some time ago, and everything has more or less Just Worked(TM) since then. Not that my deployment is very fancy or has a high load on it, but still, AoE brings home the bacon for our part. On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ed Cashin ecas...@coraid.com wrote: AoE use is accelerating rapidly, and iSCSI persists because even though it's not the best fit for same-LAN data storage, folks can still get it to work if they are willing and able to deal with the complexity, sacrifice the performance, and don't need the kind of scaling that virtualization and cloud deployments require. Although a lot of the expansion of AoE use lately has been by users of the Coraid HBA, there are still a lot of first-time AoE users using the coraid.com-distributed Linux initiator and also the kernel.org-distributed initiator. Recently there have been a lot of patches from Coraid to the Linux Kernel Mailing List for bringing the kernel.org-distributed driver up to date. For example, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1377362 We also fixed a regression in the Linux kernel's network layer that affected AoE performance: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/243626 I don't have much time to participate on the aoetools-discuss mailing list right now, partly so that I can keep generating those patches, but I think pessimism is especially inappropriate today, when the use of AoE is accelerating along with the development of its associated technologies, including open source technologies. -- Ed Cashin ecas...@coraid.com -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Aoetools-discuss mailing list Aoetools-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aoetools-discuss -- Vennlig hilsen Torbjørn Thorsen Utvikler / driftstekniker Trollweb Solutions AS - Professional Magento Partner www.trollweb.no Telefon dagtid: +47 51215300 Telefon kveld/helg: For kunder med Serviceavtale Besøksadresse: Luramyrveien 40, 4313 Sandnes Postadresse: Maurholen 57, 4316 Sandnes Husk at alle våre standard-vilkår alltid er gjeldende -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Aoetools-discuss mailing list Aoetools-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aoetools-discuss -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct___ Aoetools-discuss mailing list Aoetools-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aoetools-discuss
