- I think Tcl (or, rather, single language support)
- is one of the big things holding AOLserver back.
-
- I thought the same thing two years ago. I'm now convinced Tcl was and is
- still the right choice for the core scripting language, and believe it
- should remain the core language. It
In a message dated 11/7/2002 7:32:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I second the idea of organizing commands by function. I think the
current documentation at aolserver.com does a good job of this:
http://www.aolserver.com/docs/devel/tcl/api/
I hope we will still be able to
In a message dated 11/8/2002 3:09:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perl would be tricky, but a few years ago, when
we were just starting to get serious about PyWX, someone mentioned that
they'd started a Perl integration project for AOLserver. I'd be interested
in taking a
On 2002.11.07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Tcl (or, rather, single language support) is one of the big things
holding AOLserver back. It's nice that you're all convinced of your
godliness under Tcl ;), but other smart people like other languages, and
they're not going
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 09:27 PM, Gabriel Ricard wrote:
- Note: my only gripe with ADP is that the following does not
appear
to work:
if { [check $something] == 1 } {
%
bbreak out of Tcl mode and process some HTML
I don't understand why people are looking for wider adoption of
AOLserver or as much publicity as Apache or whatnot ... while it's
nice having a large community of users, some of which might contribute
back to the open source project ... having a piece of software that
enables the right folks
On 2002.11.08, Peter M. Jansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 09:27 PM, Gabriel Ricard wrote:
if { [check $something] == 1 } {
%
bbreak out of Tcl mode and process some HTML
conditionally/b
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 06:42 AM, Dossy wrote:
I don't understand why people are looking for wider adoption of
AOLserver or as much publicity as Apache or whatnot ... while it's
nice having a large community of users, some of which might contribute
back to the open source project ...
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 09:35 AM, Dossy wrote:
This is how I implement this:
%
if {[check $something] == 1} {
ns_adp_puts {
bbreak out of Tcl mode and process some HTML
conditionally/b
}
}
%
The only reason I do the other
Hi Folks,
I have a question regarding the latest 3.5.0 release of AolServer. Does
this version support HTTP 1.1, and more specifically HTTP 1.1 pipelining?
If not, is this planned for the version 4?
Cheers,
Pete.
--
Peter Harper
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 10:06 AM, Dossy wrote:
While there are folks talented at selling ice to eskimos, my normal
sales pitch is AOLserver is not for you.
Heh - interesting approach! Unfortunately, it doesn't work for us
since the majority of our sites are OpenACS-based and it
Title: RE: [AOLSERVER] AOLserver Project Update
I don't really want stir up dust on this one, not too much, because it hasn't been a real hinderance for me, but the solution presented still would allow something like:
set username [ns_conn authuser]
if { [check $something] == 1 } {
%
On 2002.11.08, Rogers Gene A Civ 96 CG/SCTOB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't really want stir up dust on this one, not too much, because it
hasn't been a real hinderance for me, but the solution presented still would
allow something like:
set username [ns_conn authuser]
if { [check
Ok, the way I get data from the DB now is much like this:
function db_select($table, $fields, $where) {
...
}
This function creates a select statement based on the criteria I pass
in and returns a single row which I can access like this in PHP:
?
$row = db_select('users',
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 04:33:41AM -0500, Nathan Folkman wrote:
I hope to continue to see people stepping up to support different languages:
Tcl, Perl, Python, Java, PHP, etc. If there server is well designed, and
things are abstracted correctly, then there would be no reason not to support
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 01:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Speaking from the point of view of a recent convert from the
Apache/PHP
- world, one thing that will really lower the bar for people like me
is a
- document (or article) along the lines of AOLServer and Tcl for
- Apache/PHP
- Now, if adding other scripting language support could be done without
- adding any baggage to the core -- as external modules -- I'm all for it.
- However, I would hate to see the core get bogged down with stuff to
- accomdate all sorts of languages if it means negative impact towards its
-
This may be an obvious one, but I'm trying to move a site over from an IIS
host to an AOLserver one, and the web pages link to mixed-case filenames.
However, the filenames are all actually lower case, meaning I get a lot of
404's.
With IIS this works fine. Broken, perhaps -- but it works. There
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 12:51 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
This may be an obvious one, but I'm trying to move a site over from an
IIS
host to an AOLserver one, and the web pages link to mixed-case
filenames.
However, the filenames are all actually lower case, meaning I get a
lot of
404's.
I
- Original Message -
From: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: [AOLSERVER] URL case insensitivity.
This may be an obvious one, but I'm trying to move a site over from an IIS
host to an AOLserver one, and the web pages
On Friday 08 November 2002 13:05, Patrick Spence wrote:
From: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This may be an obvious one, but I'm trying to move a site over from an
IIS host to an AOLserver one, and the web pages link to mixed-case
filenames. However, the filenames are all actually lower case,
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Lamar Owen wrote:
This may be an obvious one, but I'm trying to move a site over from an IIS
host to an AOLserver one, and the web pages link to mixed-case filenames.
However, the filenames are all actually lower case, meaning I get a lot of
404's.
With IIS this works
Have you tried ns_speling? (I haven't.) Any reason why you couldn't
register a preauth filter to handle your problem?
Jamie
Lamar Owen wrote:
There used to be a custom 404/notfound handler module for Aolserver
that
would give you the option of having it check for case mismatch as part of
It is available from http://www.vorteon.com/download/
It is a short TCL script by David Walker.
Roberto Mello wrote:
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 06:15:00PM +, Jamie Rasmussen wrote:
Have you tried ns_speling? (I haven't.) Any reason why you couldn't
register a preauth filter to handle your
+-- On Nov 8, Lamar Owen said:
This may be an obvious one, but I'm trying to move a site over from an IIS
host to an AOLserver one, and the web pages link to mixed-case filenames.
However, the filenames are all actually lower case, meaning I get a lot of
404's.
Write a module that
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 12:51 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
Does anyone know of a solution better than storing
the files on a FAT filesystem with Linux doing the case reversion in the
filesystem layer?
If you run it on Mac OS X off of an HFS+ partition, you'll get the
case-insensitive,
On Friday 08 November 2002 13:25, Peter M. Jansson wrote:
here. Every core team member does not have to have every criterion, but
the three candidates need to be able to join together, Voltron-like, to
I don't know which is scarier. The fact he used 'Voltron' in a sentence, or
the fact that I
- Original Message -
From: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] How I'll vote for core team members (long)
On Friday 08 November 2002 13:25, Peter M. Jansson wrote:
here. Every core team member does not
Here is a TCL hack to serve files w/o case sensitivity (not tested):
ns_register_proc GET / servit
ns_register_proc POST / servit
ns_register_proc HEAD / servit
proc servit {conn ignore} {
set url [string tolower [ns_conn url]]
if {[file exists [ns_info pageroot]$url]} {
ns_returnfile
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 01:43 PM, Jim Wilcoxson wrote:
Here is a TCL hack to serve files w/o case sensitivity (not tested):
That works when the problem is people entering http://someserver/FOO;
rather than http://someserver/foo;, but it won't help the case where
someone entered the
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 11:19:09AM -0700, Michael A. Cleverly wrote:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Andrew Piskorski wrote:
And 'ns_conn request' gives you the URL as received from the client,
but AFAIK there's no API to let you change it.
The aol3.3+ad13 distribution has an nsrewrite .so module that
On Friday 08 November 2002 13:40, Patrick Spence wrote:
Heheh, my first thought was but Voltron used 5 lions.. not 3 :)
Which of the three Voltrons? :-) There was a Voltron with three parts.
Way off-topic. Sorry.
--
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 02:05 PM, Jim Wilcoxson wrote:
But in the problem definition, all files were stored in lowercase on disk.
:)
Sorry about that. I had my brain filters on when reading.
On Friday 08 November 2002 13:43, Jim Wilcoxson wrote:
Here is a TCL hack to serve files w/o case sensitivity (not tested):
I might give that a whirl later. The loopback-mount VFAT works, and works
well, as long as you remember VFAT's root directory limits on number of
files.
Basically:
Michael A. Cleverly wrote:
The aol3.3+ad13 distribution has an nsrewrite .so module that enables
this, iirc.
This module is like the best thing since sliced bread, so simple yet so
good. :)
--Tom Jackson
Patrick Spence wrote:
The more people using the software in my mind means the larger likelyhood
that the software will remain developed.. so its purely selfish on my part..
put that together with the added advantage that with more people using it
there is likely to be more people coding
Since AOL already has representatives on the core team, should AOL
employees be prohibited from voting for community core team members?
On 2002.11.08, Peter M. Jansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since AOL already has representatives on the core team, should AOL
employees be prohibited from voting for community core team members?
Should nominees be prohibited from voting as well, then?
-- Dossy
--
Dossy Shiobara
In a message dated 11/8/2002 2:50:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Should nominees be prohibited from voting as well, then?
-- Dossy
I think everyone should get one vote, which you can chose to use for yourself, or for someone else. Hadn't really given much thought to
- Original Message -
From: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:53 AM
Subject: [AOLSERVER] [OT] Re: [AOLSERVER] How I'll vote for core team
members (long)
On Friday 08 November 2002 13:40, Patrick Spence wrote:
Heheh, my first thought
- Original Message -
From: Tom Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Other languages (was: Project Update)
Patrick Spence wrote:
The more people using the software in my mind means the larger
likelyhood
that
Daniel C. Wickstrom wrote:
For instance, a big hurdle in integrating java with aolserver was
due to the way aolserver initiates startup. While starting,
aolserver blocks signals.
Instead of blocking them, it might be possible to have aolserver catch
signals and write a signal handler that
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 01:53 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On Friday 08 November 2002 13:40, Patrick Spence wrote:
Heheh, my first thought was but Voltron used 5 lions.. not 3 :)
Which of the three Voltrons? :-) There was a Voltron with three parts.
Am I missing something? I only recall
Peter M. Jansson wrote:
Since the core team members will be chosen by vote,
I think it's useful to talk about how to decide for
whom to vote, so I thought I'd lead off by describing
the criteria I'll use. I've got a prioritized list...
One criteria you missed was the willingness to learn,
You must have skipped over the Voltron paragraph.
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 04:27 PM, Scott S. Goodwin wrote:
I don't consider myself a
black-belt in the martial art of coding, which means I probably don't
qualify based on the criteria you've given, so I guess I lost your vote.
In a message dated 11/8/2002 4:27:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
They don't need us, but we do need them, and the
fact that they are now willing to take this risk speaks volumes given
the tone of the past relationship between the AOLserver community and
AOL.
Actually, we
I read it, but sadly I had to lookup Voltron on the net. I lived
overseas at the time, and when I came back to the states, went straight
to college, sans television. So I'm not up on popular tv culture of that
era.
I hope a thorough knowledge of Voltron isn't a prerequisite for being on
the core
On Friday 08 November 2002 16:17, Gabriel Ricard wrote:
Am I missing something? I only recall the one with the lions and the
one with the cars.
What was the other one?
google for 'Albegas'
--
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 04:27 PM, Scott S. Goodwin wrote:
Should the AOL dev team members have a vote? Absolutely. They are
involved with AOLserver as individuals, they run the largest sites that
use AOLserver.
I've been lucky enough to get some contracting gigs with AOL over the
My point was that my criteria -- and they are just mine, I don't think
anyone should feel obliged to use them -- were less a set of checkboxes
than a set of weighted scores, and that the scores for the individual can
balance with the scores for team as a whole. If one person is weaker at
coding,
In a message dated 11/8/2002 4:52:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But I didn't really mean to bend anyone out of shape over this. It was
just a question, and I didn't know if it had occurred to anyone else.
Pete, I think you raise very valid points. I don't think there
In a message dated 11/8/2002 10:50:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 07:36:33AM -0800, Jim Wilcoxson wrote:
Creating a TCL-accessible array in a C module is trival. Just pass
Ah, thanks! Sometimes having one simple example in front of you is so
much
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 05:34:43PM -0500, Nathan Folkman wrote:
In a message dated 11/8/2002 10:50:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, AOLserver really SHOULD ship with a C API to nsv, but since it
doesn't, I created my own partial one. It was pretty easy. But
In a message dated 11/8/2002 5:42:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm not sure, but I think Zoran already DID make his stuff backwards
compatabile with the nsv_* API. I haven't tried his (way cool, btw!)
Tcl Thead Extension yet, but last I checked its tls code was organized
Good points, but I think they're all moot in this particular election.
All of the nominees I'm aware of are great candidates to be on the
community-side of the core team, and all of them would do a superb job
of representing the community's interests. So the question *not* will
the elected
Title: Message
I
stand corrected! It's nice to be wanted by someone other than the police for a
change.
What I
meant by that statement was that you have a team that is focused on AOLserver,
while the community is rather fragmented and unfocused on AOLserver as a whole
-- we aren't
I think I understand what you intended. Thanks for clearing it up for
me.
/s.
-Original Message-
From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto:AOLSERVER;LISTSERV.AOL.COM] On Behalf
Of Peter M. Jansson
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 3:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] How I'll
On Friday 08 November 2002 23:34, you wrote:
Perhaps nsv should be replaced with the svar work Zoran had worked on? You
could provide backwards compatibility wrappers of course. What do you think
Zoran?
The code in current threading extension, implementing the thread shared
variables (aka
Since AOL has already picked its representation, it seems to me they
should not vote on the community half of the core team. Not that
their votes would necessarily be wrong or bad or have any nefarious
intention, but more in the interest of fairness, as has been said
before. Just my opinion.
Jim Wilcoxson wrote:
For myself, if rather short term limits are put on the members anyway,
I'd be satisfied with listing certain criteria to be a team member,
and letting any individual meeting those criteria participate on the
core team. If there are too many nominees, pick out of a hat. The
It might also be nice to use cumulative voting. Since there are three
positions, everyone should get three votes. You can vote for three
nominees, or if you feel strongly, place all you votes for one nominee.
As I recall, when the Tcl Core team was formed, and there were to be x #
of
Exactly. Even though they work for AOL, they are still a part of the
AOLserver community and should have a vote. I wish I could have put it
this clearly.
/s.
-Original Message-
From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto:AOLSERVER;LISTSERV.AOL.COM] On Behalf
Of Jeff Hobbs
Sent: Friday, November
This brings up another question: what constitutes a voting member?
Does one company get 1 vote, or does each employee at a company get a
vote?
Each member of the core team should have a vote, regardless of company.
I meant in the community, who gets a vote?
At 08:20 AM 11/8/2002, you wrote:
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 04:33:41AM -0500, Nathan Folkman wrote:
I hope to continue to see people stepping up to support different languages:
Tcl, Perl, Python, Java, PHP, etc. If there server is well designed, and
things are abstracted correctly, then there
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