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Automatic digest processor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There are 3 messages totalling 352 lines in this issue. > >Topics of the day: > > 1. AOLserver process size > 2. Being signed up for e-mail lists you can't unsubscribe from (2) > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:56:02 -0500 >From: Brady Wetherington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: AOLserver process size > >Well, it's kind of embarassing, but here's my memory usage (grepped out) >- I haven't gotten around to fixing it because the server doesn't really >need to be restarted very often, if at all, and it gets hit a little >bit. I theorized that the leakage started with a big switch to using >nsxml - and I (think) I was able to reduce the memory bleed rate by >reducing my use of nsxml (replacing it with normal string operations to >"manually" generate XML files). It still runs sharp and fast and good >and all - but due to the memory leakage I started to run it under >daemontools, so it would restart if it blew up - which doesn't do a >particularly good job of restarting the server anyways, but ah well. > >output of grepped PS - > >USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND > >nobody 27592 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 0:00 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27595 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 0:00 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27596 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 0:00 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27597 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 0:00 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27598 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:21 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27599 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:09 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27600 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:58 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27601 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 4:20 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27602 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:21 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27603 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:32 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27604 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:23 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27605 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:53 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27606 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:57 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27607 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:33 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27608 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:54 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27609 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:34 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27610 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:09 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27611 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:39 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27612 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:08 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27613 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:51 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27614 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:53 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27615 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:37 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27616 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:04 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27617 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:51 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27618 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:35 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27619 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:42 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27620 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:33 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27621 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:12 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27622 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:59 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27623 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:14 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27624 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:39 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27625 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:04 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27626 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:18 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27627 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:30 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27628 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:07 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27629 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:03 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27630 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:35 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27631 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:46 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27632 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:50 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27633 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:38 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27634 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:22 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27635 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:11 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27636 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:54 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27637 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:58 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27638 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:01 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27639 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:04 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27640 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:56 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27641 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:31 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27642 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:04 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27643 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:57 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27644 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:40 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27645 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:03 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27646 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:35 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27647 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:43 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27648 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:43 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27649 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:01 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27650 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:26 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27651 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:45 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27652 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:25 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27653 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:39 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27654 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:08 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27655 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:52 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27656 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:42 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27657 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:02 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27658 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:02 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27659 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:45 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27660 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:33 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27661 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:42 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27662 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:03 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27663 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:54 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27664 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:24 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27665 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:40 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27666 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:08 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27667 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:49 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27668 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:02 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27669 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:06 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27670 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:59 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27671 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:07 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27672 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:27 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27673 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:55 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27674 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:11 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27675 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:25 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27676 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:36 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27677 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:34 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27678 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:39 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27679 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:49 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27680 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:01 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27681 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:31 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27682 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:15 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27683 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:50 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27684 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:47 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27685 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 4:01 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27686 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:28 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27687 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:09 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27688 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:11 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27689 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:54 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27690 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:15 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27691 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:23 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27692 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:04 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27693 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:22 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27694 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:32 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27695 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:10 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27696 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 2:22 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27697 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 3:05 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27698 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 0:16 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl >nobody 27701 0.0 65.2 830656 335332 ? S 2002 0:00 bin/nsd >-f -u nobody -t netservos.tcl > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:15:18 -0500 >From: alfred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Being signed up for e-mail lists you can't unsubscribe from > >I have been wondering why this list doesn't use the RFC 2369 headers I've >seen used by other lists. That would deflate at least a few of the >concerns I saw discussed earlier ... > >On the SWIG list, which uses mailman, the headers with List-XXX: (see >below) actually let me see in PINE that there is list management >information, including how to unsubscribe, name of the list, archive >address, etc. > >Even farther below, I include the screen created by pine when you >follow the link that says 'this message contains list information' ... > >The combination really works well when the client and server both use >this: send the info, client uses those headers to manage subscriptions... > >For example, I am on the SWIG list and here is a header: > >From: <name deleted cuz its not me> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Swig] Next SWIG release >Message-Id: <20030127132646.509875a4.namedeletedcuzitsnotme> >In-Reply-To: <20030127183510.3BB0244E7@namedeletedcuzitsnotme> >References: <20030127183510.3BB0244E7@namedeletedcuzitsnotme> >X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.cs.uchicago.edu/mailman/listinfo/swig>, > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Id: Swig mailing list <swig.cs.uchicago.edu> >List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.cs.uchicago.edu/mailman/listinfo/swig>, > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe> >List-Archive: <http://mailman.cs.uchicago.edu/pipermail/swig/> >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:26:46 -0600 > > > > >PINE LIST MANAGEMENT info screen > > Mail List Commands > >Message 216 has information associated with it that explains how to >participate in an email list. An email list is >represented by a single email address that users sharing a common interest >can send messages to (known as posting) which >are then redistributed to all members of the list (sometimes after review >by a moderator). > >List participation commands in this message include: > > * A method to get information about the list and instructions on how to >join. > > Select HERE to seek help. > > * Methods to remove yourself from the list (Unsubscribe). > > 1. Select HERE to UNsubscribe. > > 2. Select HERE to UNsubscribe. > > * Methods to add yourself to the list (Subscribe). > > 1. Select HERE to Subscribe. > > 2. Select HERE to Subscribe. > > * A method to send a message to the entire list (Post). > > Select HERE to post a message. > > * A method to view archive of messages sent to the list. > > Select HERE to view the archive. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 06:54:24 +0100 >From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Being signed up for e-mail lists you can't unsubscribe from > >alfred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On the SWIG list, which uses mailman, the headers with List-XXX: [...] > >Cool! However, they make the (increasingly common) mistake of >inserting the text "[Swig]" in the Subject: header field, because >people think the subject is the only field MUAs can use to filter and >sort email. If list admins would "wake up and smell the coffee", >they'd notice that even Microsoft email products allow proper sorting >and filtering these days! :-) > >So DO adopt the List-...: headers for the AOLserver lists, but please >DO NOT adopt the silly name-in-brackets in Subject: mistake. > >-tih >-- >Tom Ivar Helbekkmo, Senior System Administrator, EUnet Norway >www.eunet.no T: +47-22092958 M: +47-93013940 F: +47-22092901 > >------------------------------ > >End of AOLSERVER Digest - 28 Jan 2003 to 29 Jan 2003 (#2003-29) >*************************************************************** > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
